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  • Davo55 said:

    Up until now, I too have been pleased with Katrien.

    But in the past 2 days she has had a shocker.

    Imagine if this was a bank, and the Chief Executive lied to it's customers on the say so of major shareholders. Or worse, had been misled by the Chairman and had,in good faith, in turn misled the customers. Either way, their position would be untenable; there would be an outcry; they would have to resign.

    Because there are "only" about 15,000 of us regular customers, rather than the millions of customers a bank has, does that make it ok? Not in my book. It is a breach of trust.

    She has either knowingly lied, or been hung out to dry by Roland, like a mug.

    No getting away from it.

    Close this thread now.

    Those final two lines sum it all up.

  • vff said:

    Katrien Miere is in an impossible position and has been put in an impossible position by RD. If she says anything at all about the whole interview process farago which is even a tiny part critical of her boss, she is for high road. Just like any of RDs employees. The writing was on the wall for Bob Peeters the moment he started making critical noises about the strength of the squad and need for a striker. Also about Tony Watt ' if he must come......'. Katrien Miere knows this.

    It is clear that Katrien Miere is a bright and intelligent person. One day she will surely make an actual great Chief Executive. It will never happen at Charlton because Roland will never cede that level of control / level of autonomy.

    Truth is the Chief Executive job title is overstated. That job role does not exist within the RD empire / business model. Really Katrien Miere is just a General Manager with no say about anything particularly important about the club. Roland is clearly the one in charge of proceedings. So much so that he forgets to pretend that Katrien is even remotely involved in major decisions. It appears that RD does not care about embarrassing his employees or consider that he may be undermining them in their role. RD either doesn't care as he is the owner or more likely, like many computer geeks is not very good with relating to people.

    To be fair, the writing was on the wall for BP when we stopped winning matches and started playing dreadful football.
  • PL54 said:

    Seen someone on twitter trying to get people to protest by turning your back on the game in the 4th minute at Watford. Surely this would be more effective at home if it was to be done

    Why the 4th minute?

    I'd like to think most proper fans would still be in the bar at that point.

    ...dare I say...Mangina

    I read it was because of the amount if managers we've had under RD.

    I've not got anything to do with it btw just something I read on twitter
  • vff said:

    Katrien Miere is in an impossible position and has been put in an impossible position by RD. If she says anything at all about the whole interview process farago which is even a tiny part critical of her boss, she is for high road. Just like any of RDs employees. The writing was on the wall for Bob Peeters the moment he started making critical noises about the strength of the squad and need for a striker. Also about Tony Watt ' if he must come......'. Katrien Miere knows this.

    It is clear that Katrien Miere is a bright and intelligent person. One day she will surely make an actual great Chief Executive. It will never happen at Charlton because Roland will never cede that level of control / level of autonomy.

    Truth is the Chief Executive job title is overstated. That job role does not exist within the RD empire / business model. Really Katrien Miere is just a General Manager with no say about anything particularly important about the club. Roland is clearly the one in charge of proceedings. So much so that he forgets to pretend that Katrien is even remotely involved in major decisions. It appears that RD does not care about embarrassing his employees or consider that he may be undermining them in their role. RD either doesn't care as he is the owner or more likely, like many computer geeks is not very good with relating to people.

    To be fair, the writing was on the wall for BP when we stopped winning matches and started playing dreadful football.
    That as well, alongside the strong reports of losing the dressing room. But we are talking about RD here.
  • I reckon Roland will spare her the embarrassment of having to continue work where she's lost all credibility. Fans will openly mock her and staff will be sniggering behind her back. The beauty of a Network you see. Expect to hear she's moving back to Belgium for another admin job because she hasn't settled in London or has been promoted to Office Manager at Standard Liege. If you could be bothered to look, you could probably spot our new CEO at one of Roly's current clubs.
  • As posted elsewhere
    From Frank hill in the 1960’s to Eddie Firmani to Andy Nelson to (the much lauded on his arrival) Alan Pardew to Bob Peeters and all in between. I've seen many Charlton managers come and go and have learned not to get excited by any of their appointments.
    Some posters shouting for the return of Curbs are probably the same supporters claiming he had taking us as far as he could and should go.
    The same posters who chanted Chris Powell “didn't know what he was doing “when we lost to the Daggers and then knighted him S.C.P.when we won league one.
    Those posters complaining about the current owners (who are not beyond criticism) but trying to bring success back to the Valley, should look at the photos of the Valley during the chronic under-investment of the Glickstein era or maybe reminded of the farcical Mark Hulyer stewardship of the club when players wages were dependent on a boat load of bananas or rubber reaching their destination.
    So don’t get to excited chaps, we've seen it all before – managers come and go, owners come and go, but be careful what you wish for.

    Excellent post. Tell the youth of today and they won't believe you.
  • vff said:

    Katrien Miere is in an impossible position and has been put in an impossible position by RD. If she says anything at all about the whole interview process farago which is even a tiny part critical of her boss, she is for high road. Just like any of RDs employees. The writing was on the wall for Bob Peeters the moment he started making critical noises about the strength of the squad and need for a striker. Also about Tony Watt ' if he must come......'. Katrien Miere knows this.

    It is clear that Katrien Miere is a bright and intelligent person. One day she will surely make an actual great Chief Executive. It will never happen at Charlton because Roland will never cede that level of control / level of autonomy.

    Truth is the Chief Executive job title is overstated. That job role does not exist within the RD empire / business model. Really Katrien Miere is just a General Manager with no say about anything particularly important about the club. Roland is clearly the one in charge of proceedings. So much so that he forgets to pretend that Katrien is even remotely involved in major decisions. It appears that RD does not care about embarrassing his employees or consider that he may be undermining them in their role. RD either doesn't care as he is the owner or more likely, like many computer geeks is not very good with relating to people. Problem is that now her credibility as a Chief Executive is shot to pieces. Terrible handling from Roland.

    I really think you are on to something with the 'computer geek' point. RD shows a lot of the characteristics of the worst type of IT guys, lack of empathy, not caring about the customers, seeing things in black and white and being certain he is right,fascinated by structures and abstract schemas rather than people.
  • edited January 2015

    She could have looked at the moaning on here, delayed naming Luzon until Thursday or Friday,claimed she had interviewed 20 candidates - would that have placated the moaners?

    No because Sky Sports were all over Luzon going to the club for talks. If another 19 were not seen going in or out then it would be obvious it's another lie.
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  • If Katrien was a bloke she would be getting crucified (even more so) right now.

    All this "poor girl" stuff is pathetic.

    She's in a high powered job. Judge her by her actions not by her gender.

    Spot on.
  • She could have looked at the moaning on here, delayed naming Luzon until Thursday or Friday,claimed she had interviewed 20 candidates - would that have placated the moaners?

    No because Sky Sports were all over Luzon going to the club for talks. If another 19 were not seen going in or out then it would be obvious it's another lie.
    Why would the Valley be the only place on earth that interviews would take place.
    In fact, some people would probably prefer to be interviewed away from the glare of publicity.


  • She could have looked at the moaning on here, delayed naming Luzon until Thursday or Friday,claimed she had interviewed 20 candidates - would that have placated the moaners?

    No because Sky Sports were all over Luzon going to the club for talks. If another 19 were not seen going in or out then it would be obvious it's another lie.
    Why would the Valley be the only place on earth that interviews would take place.
    In fact, some people would probably prefer to be interviewed away from the glare of publicity.


    John, do you genuinely believe anyone else was interviewed in those few hours? And that the chap at the press conference today was the best of the bunch?

    Your optimism is admirable but you can't really think the club spoke to anyone else?
  • As far as RD is concerned he has seen been and done all of this before and has had the previous experience of not caring what the fans think at his other clubs.

    As soon as RD walked in...Chris Powell was finished at the club, and both parties knew it.

    In his mind, he bought Charlton, he put the money into it, so he can do whatever the hell he likes and its no one else's business. He probably sees "fans" as like a tramp that's looking into a window of his mansion trying to watch what he's up to.
    It's his private business until its absolutely necessary that factual, public, communication has to be made.
    Katrien is perfect for the role to temporarily deceive and lead us in a different direction to what is actually the truth. A high margin of that is because she's fit.

    She's nice and she's probably charming in person, for men and woman

    Katrien should, by now actually be good and credible at telling lies, or lies that could later be swayed as "not actually telling a lie".

    She's a bad liar....or Roland doesn't give too shites if she looks like a twat.
  • Oggy Red said:

    Time to leave the poor girl alone.

    I get your drift Ogs, but she is the Chief Exec of a high profile multi-million pound company.

    I didn't realise she work somewhere also as well?!?
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  • cafcfan said:

    She has absolutely no credibility left. If she had one iota of self-respect, she would tell Roland to do one and walk out.
    Right now, she's making Ed Balls look trustworthy.

    No I won't have that.......nobody could make Ed Balls look trustworthy.....:-)

  • rikofold said:

    I really like her. I've seen her down at the Valley and up at Sparrows Lane, away from the fans and media, she is very hands on and genuinely appears to always want the best for CAFC or at least what she believes is best. She is of course loyal to RD, the employer and of course she's can only say so much in public and that's going to alienate the fans every now and then. I'm sure she'll be pissed off that RD has made her look stupid over the past 7 days in his own actions but in Katrien I trust.

    Yes, she's likeable, intelligent and I am sure a decent person, but she's about as much a chief executive as she is a goalkeeper.
    ..and how does that compare to the last lot Rick?
    The last lot had no interest in running the business whatsoever. They were content to leave it to Kavanagh and Varney, until the money ran out, after which they installed Prothero, who was rarely there either. So staff got on with the job. People often misunderstand the role of non-exec directors. I never met Jimenez at all until I forced him to hear my appeal and that was because he almost never came to The Valley.

    While I had much more to do with Richard Murray over the years, I saw a lot less of him when I was on the management team than previously as a reporter and secretary of the supporters' club, etc - even when I was in charge of comms 1998-2003. That's because it was the chief exec's role to run the business day to day. It's not a criticism - quite the reverse.

    The issue now is that nearly all the accumulated internal knowledge of the club has left the building - mainly due to the previous regime, although it is still continuing. So now you have new or previously quite junior people in charge on the one hand and an inexperienced chief executive who isn't able to oversee them fully on the other. It is a problematic combination, in my view.
    I do think KM has been somewhat thrown to the lions this week, totally undermined by RD. Certainly a light has been thrown onto what RD really means by his clubs having their own autonomy - that is, they are free only to agree with him.

    Personally I think the other stuff is unnecessary. We were all junior staff once. The important thing from a staff focus is whether the jobs are now being done as they have been asked to do them. If the remit is incomplete, that's for CEO/COOs - in reality KM - to address.

    Of course it is regretful when knowledge is lost, but it means little more than the replacements having to learn it - and under a new regime things will be done differently anyway. From what you're saying, they are considerably more active in managing the business today than previously, so it may actually be no bad thing. Let's be honest, we've hardly had a model internal operation even in the Premier League years. People got on with it, the fans accepted the limitations because - well - we were all in it together. Things move on, people move on.
    It's off the point, but you're misunderstanding what I'm saying and I think you're largely wrong about the PL years - although I would, wouldn't I?

    There was intelligent structured management from the board prior to 2012, but led by the chief executive (except Waggott!) day to day, not by the owner. That is the difference. In theory the owner could be the chief exec, but not, I suggest, from Belgium.

    Over 2012-14 the tier of management below the chief exec has largely been taken out, leaving the chief exec to manage a wider group operating at a lower level. At the same time the chief exec is less experienced and has less discretion because she is following orders (from someone based in Belgium) to an extent that her predecessors certainly weren't. And the staff under her also know less about the club and its fans.

    Coupled with other staff reductions, it means you have 1) people being overloaded with tasks, 2) managers who feel unsupported and 3) people put in roles they are not equipped to fulfil. Consequently more staff are leaving, and notably without replacement jobs, because the set-up is not tenable.

    That is KM's responsibility to address if she is indeed a chief executive, although to be clear I don't blame her for it. There have been a number of (unannounced) new appointments so we'll see where that takes us, but at present the wheels are coming off.
    Welcome to the world of business AB. That sums up most of the corporations that I have worked in some at a relatively senior level.

    The reality is that football (business though it may be) is now full of so called businessmen who have serious money. They have the power to do what RD has done this week. Football is full of KMs (most of them not so photogenic and with such good presentational skills). ??? They might have the power to do what RD has done this week, but none of them are choosing to do that, or at least not in the farcical manner that he's chosen

    I have supported the club since I was 8 years old. For most of the 47 years years in between, virtually none of us have not had the chance to hear the CEO give a press conference let alone decide whether it's their lies and/or spin or that of the bloke who's money it is. I don't understand this sentence. I've heard lots of Press Conferences over the years, at Charlton and other clubs, following the appointment of a new manager/head coach. I've never seen a CEO fail so abjectly to explain the rationale behind an appointment.

    I read that some people are ditching their support - really? Why? It's like turning your back on your children because they fall for somebody you don't like. No it isn't. It's more like expressing your extreme concern that one of your beloved children has got hitched to a convicted serial killer.

    I have no way of knowing if the RD project will be successful or not. None of us knows and neither does he. He is risking some of his dosh to have fun and to trying and make a turn. It's his game of monopoly and he may take them all or lose his shirt. Rest assured that he can afford to lose several shirts. But you do have a way of knowing whether the RD project will be successful or not - the evidence in front of you. And as for losing several shirts, yes he can afford to. And when he's failed, he can walk away still absolutely loaded, leaving behind a club that's lost a significant proportion of it's loyal support as a result of his failed experiment

    I don't like it but there it is.

    Frankly the he said she said stuff is less important than if the new bloke turns out to be decent. RD experiment or not, the club has been in relegation form in the last couple of months. That needed to be addressed. RD has addressed it and KM has been tasked with delivering the message.
  • rikofold said:

    I really like her. I've seen her down at the Valley and up at Sparrows Lane, away from the fans and media, she is very hands on and genuinely appears to always want the best for CAFC or at least what she believes is best. She is of course loyal to RD, the employer and of course she's can only say so much in public and that's going to alienate the fans every now and then. I'm sure she'll be pissed off that RD has made her look stupid over the past 7 days in his own actions but in Katrien I trust.

    Yes, she's likeable, intelligent and I am sure a decent person, but she's about as much a chief executive as she is a goalkeeper.
    ..and how does that compare to the last lot Rick?
    The last lot had no interest in running the business whatsoever. They were content to leave it to Kavanagh and Varney, until the money ran out, after which they installed Prothero, who was rarely there either. So staff got on with the job. People often misunderstand the role of non-exec directors. I never met Jimenez at all until I forced him to hear my appeal and that was because he almost never came to The Valley.

    While I had much more to do with Richard Murray over the years, I saw a lot less of him when I was on the management team than previously as a reporter and secretary of the supporters' club, etc - even when I was in charge of comms 1998-2003. That's because it was the chief exec's role to run the business day to day. It's not a criticism - quite the reverse.

    The issue now is that nearly all the accumulated internal knowledge of the club has left the building - mainly due to the previous regime, although it is still continuing. So now you have new or previously quite junior people in charge on the one hand and an inexperienced chief executive who isn't able to oversee them fully on the other. It is a problematic combination, in my view.
    I do think KM has been somewhat thrown to the lions this week, totally undermined by RD. Certainly a light has been thrown onto what RD really means by his clubs having their own autonomy - that is, they are free only to agree with him.

    Personally I think the other stuff is unnecessary. We were all junior staff once. The important thing from a staff focus is whether the jobs are now being done as they have been asked to do them. If the remit is incomplete, that's for CEO/COOs - in reality KM - to address.

    Of course it is regretful when knowledge is lost, but it means little more than the replacements having to learn it - and under a new regime things will be done differently anyway. From what you're saying, they are considerably more active in managing the business today than previously, so it may actually be no bad thing. Let's be honest, we've hardly had a model internal operation even in the Premier League years. People got on with it, the fans accepted the limitations because - well - we were all in it together. Things move on, people move on.
    It's off the point, but you're misunderstanding what I'm saying and I think you're largely wrong about the PL years - although I would, wouldn't I?

    There was intelligent structured management from the board prior to 2012, but led by the chief executive (except Waggott!) day to day, not by the owner. That is the difference. In theory the owner could be the chief exec, but not, I suggest, from Belgium.

    Over 2012-14 the tier of management below the chief exec has largely been taken out, leaving the chief exec to manage a wider group operating at a lower level. At the same time the chief exec is less experienced and has less discretion because she is following orders (from someone based in Belgium) to an extent that her predecessors certainly weren't. And the staff under her also know less about the club and its fans.

    Coupled with other staff reductions, it means you have 1) people being overloaded with tasks, 2) managers who feel unsupported and 3) people put in roles they are not equipped to fulfil. Consequently more staff are leaving, and notably without replacement jobs, because the set-up is not tenable.

    That is KM's responsibility to address if she is indeed a chief executive, although to be clear I don't blame her for it. There have been a number of (unannounced) new appointments so we'll see where that takes us, but at present the wheels are coming off.
    Welcome to the world of business AB. That sums up most of the corporations that I have worked in some at a relatively senior level.

    The reality is that football (business though it may be) is now full of so called businessmen who have serious money. They have the power to do what RD has done this week. Football is full of KMs (most of them not so photogenic and with such good presentational skills).

    I have supported the club since I was 8 years old. For most of the 47 years years in between, virtually none of us have not had the chance to hear the CEO give a press conference let alone decide whether it's their lies and/or spin or that of the bloke who's money it is.

    I read that some people are ditching their support - really? Why? It's like turning your back on your children because they fall for somebody you don't like.

    I have no way of knowing if the RD project will be successful or not. None of us knows and neither does he. He is risking some of his dosh to have fun and to trying and make a turn. It's his game of monopoly and he may take them all or lose his shirt. Rest assured that he can afford to lose several shirts.

    I don't like it but there it is.

    Frankly the he said she said stuff is less important than if the new bloke turns out to be decent. RD experiment or not, the club has been in relegation form in the last couple of months. That needed to be addressed. RD has addressed it and KM has been tasked with delivering the message.
    The point is that whether he is decent or not will not be decisive. If he is playing to the same rules with the same resources there will be the same outcome, sooner or later, because the coach is not the problem.
    Fully in agreement AB.

  • ''Charlton CEO Katrien Meire says the decision to part ways with Bob Peeters
    was not an easy one as the club began the process of searching
    for his replacement on Monday afternoon.''
    (From the CAFC website)


    Done in record time then!
  • All blown well out of proportion IMO.

    Don't care whether people think she is a puppet or lying.

    I am disappointed in the way things have gone and that the Club is no longer open with us the fans, but it is what it is.

    We move on together.
  • Deep down we all know who the people are who love this club versus those who are just passing through...
  • edited January 2015
    I in no way disagree with that.

    The owners and senior staff at the club now fall into the same category as bankers and politicians for me. I won't believe a word they say.

    However I'll still be here long after them (I hope) and I do believe they want to make money. Making money means making a success of our club.

    I'm fully behind Luzon.

    I'm fully behind the Squad and training staff.

    I'm even behind the catering and stewards.

    Any one senior, I'll leave them to do what they do and try to ignore them as much as I can until it directly affects us as fans (costs increasing etc) or they become the open case their predecessors from a few years back once were.

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