To be honest she looked close to tears but she was shouting back at people.
Called a liar on here and now this...
Charlton,The Family Plummeting Club.
And spare me the talk of 'It's a monority'.
Poor.
I don't agree that anyone should suffer abuse like that. On the other hand, getting the train back with fans after a controversial week and a performance like today's seems to show a lack of understanding of the sort of emotional stock that people place in football.
If a similar lack of understanding runs throughout the upper echelons of the club, it might also help to explain the questionable transfer policy and PR disasters
To be honest she looked close to tears but she was shouting back at people.
Called a liar on here and now this...
Charlton,The Family Plummeting Club.
And spare me the talk of 'It's a monority'.
Poor.
I don't agree that anyone should suffer abuse like that. On the other hand, getting the train back with fans after a controversial week and a performance like today's seems to show a lack of understanding of the sort of emotional stock that people place in football.
If a similar lack of understanding runs throughout the upper echelons of the club, it might also help to explain the questionable transfer policy and PR disasters
I would bet that that lack of understanding emanates from Roland, who clearly doesnt give a shit about how his 'customers' feel about his 'product'. But remember, Roland, we all have a choice and if we stop coming, your investment is worthless. Any business so contemptuous of its customers soon won't have any. We all have a choice, Roland. Of course we won't go to Millwall or Palace, but there are a million other things to do besides football on a Saturday afternoon and once the habit is broken, you won't win those 'customers' back. I'm fuming about today, and contemplating watching non league instead for the rest of the season.
To be honest she looked close to tears but she was shouting back at people.
Called a liar on here and now this...
Charlton,The Family Club.
And spare me the talk of 'It's a monority'.
Poor.
She has told lies.
Go back one page and see my comments on there, then come back back with your proof.
Guy Luzon wasnt first approached for the job last week. KM made it seem like there would be an open search for the job. The work permit issue is a huge mistake and she should have been on top of that. She came out and did interviews and build her profile and made a hash of it.
The football team is in tatters and the hands-on (hiring, firing, deciding players) CEO has to accept the buck stops with her.
I dont accept the "she is just a puppet" argument, then more fool her. Not going to comment on reports of something on a train but there is a level of acceptable criticism that I hope anyone doesnt cross.
Id certainly feel entitled to ask why she feels qualified to judge that Guy Luzon is Charlton material and why I "just have to accept it"
I hate it when people constantly misuse the term "embarrassing" on this site and elsewhere to describe anger, frustration, disappointment etc over a football result.
But I tell you what is embarrassing is grown men bringing a women close to tears on a train and other grown men defending that.
What a lot of old tosh, she is the face of Roland's involvement in the club and therefore will be the one that gets the brunt of the abuse. If the avuse was personal that is wrong and totally different but if it was football related then it's fair game. She is a lawyer and would of been in heated arguments before. As she likes to use the words they need to understand, maybe she needs to understand fans won't accept the way this club us being run.
First of all I am a football fan - you cannot do this job if you are not a supporter," she says, having grown up as a keen supporter of Sint-Truiden, currently in the Belgian second division. Continue reading the main story “Start Quote
There are far too many agents who get far too much money for what they do”
Katrien Meire Charlton Athletic
"I am in this role because the owner believes in me. He also believes that women are better than men at managing budgets.
"I haven't felt I have been treated differently from men, it has been positive so far," she adds.
"Sometimes in meetings, for example, it can be an advantage - I am not just another guy in a suit.
"But of course it is up to me to prove that I am talking common sense too
To be honest she looked close to tears but she was shouting back at people.
That's disgraceful, do people honestly think she wouldn't have felt the bite from that defeat today?
Her feelings on the result are irrelevant. She is the mouthpiece for a leadership than many people think isn't working. It's just very bad timing for her that after a week of decisions and lies misinterpreted answers for which she was the face, such a bad result has occurred. Respect to her for still getting on the train in such circumstances, I very much doubt I or many others would have in her situation. She shouldn't be getting any abuse but if she didn't think she would then I'm afraid that just backs up some peoples opinion that she's clueless and naive (which I don't agree with). If she did expect it then she can't really get upset by it.
Don't agree with your last sentence - credit to her for knowing she'd get it and still getting on the train sure in the knowledge it would be unpleasant, and it would likely affect her. Must have been very tempting to let a few trains go before boarding.
I don't agree with it either, bad phrasing. Meant more she shouldn't be surprised by it.
It is both understandable, yet bitterly sad and shameful if Katrien suffered the barbs of hectoring and abuse on the train. So sad, so sad that she was 'shouting', although that may be a matter of fine judgement, so abject that passions collided as they have appeared to have done, I wish this wasn't true, and wish it wasn't as bad or damaging as my imagination tempts me to think.
Not a job for a woman IMHO and very naïve of her to travel on a train full of angry fans. She should have at least waited for a later train. I am very angry at that result today but would not have reacted that way towards her. Its a bad situation all round. I don't think they understand the passion fans have for their football clubs in the UK.
Perhaps I would have been better off saying that she was raising her voice. She wasn't aggressive, just sticking up for herself. I think she'll think twice before getting the train again though.
Not a job for a woman IMHO and very naïve of her to travel on a train full of angry fans. She should have at least waited for a later train. I am very angry at that result today but would not have reacted that way towards her. Its a bad situation all round. I don't think they understand the passion fans have for their football clubs in the UK.
I'm quite sure they would have some knowledge of football fans passion for their clubs. SL fans are much more mental passionate than we are.
So if KM was a man would anyone complain about it?
She's not a man; she's a woman on a train a load of frustrated, angry men with only her to blame and she's close to tears, apparently.
You work it out.
What does she expect? Whilst I would hope there was no intimidating/threatening/abusive behaviour towards her, if fans are showing their passion and indeed frustration, they have every right to do so. If she doesn't like it then maybe she shouldn't put herself in such positions. Maybe under the circumstances she should have made other travel arrangements. I can't help feeling that by her jumping on the train, she is showing that she maybe doesn't completely understand how many of the fans feel. If she did, and chose to travel anyway, then she should have been fully aware that she might be the brunt of people's frustration.
I have ZERO sympathy for the woman. If she is going to continue to be the mouthpiece for RD and the executor of his biddings then she will continue to come under pressure from the fans if things are not going right. She has a choice in this, if she doesn't like it, she can resign and let someone else take on the responsibility. Otherwise she needs to suck it up and accept it's part of the job.
I've made my views clear about the 'improbability' of some of KM's public statements over the past week, but in travelling to and from today's game she is at work doing her job. For anyone to be shouted at and abused at work by a number of (possibly 'over refreshed') 'customers' amounts to bullying - whether it's a male or female transport employee who's just given an implausible excuse for yet another late train, a call centre operator handling complaints, or the nominal 'Chief Executive' of a football club after a 'car crash' of a manager change followed by a heavy defeat.
Some might say she was either foolish or brave to get the same train as most fans but whatever it's not right or acceptable for her to be abused in the way that appears to have happened.
I've made my views clear about the 'improbability' of some of KM's public statements over the past week, but in travelling to and from today's game she is at work doing her job. For anyone to be shouted at and abused at work by a number of (possibly 'over refreshed') customers amounts to bullying - whether it's a male or female transport employee who's just given an implausible excuse for yet another late train, a call centre operator handling complaints, or the nominal 'Chief Executive' of a football club after a 'car crash' of a manager change followed by a heavy defeat.
Some might say she was either foolish or brave to get the same train as most fans but whatever it's not right or acceptable for her to be abused in the way that appears to have happened.
I agree, of course it's not acceptable, but it's obvious there was going to be some kind of backlash from events this week. Unfortunately that probably got compounded by the toothless display that the team served up today. But still, even without a poor result today, it wouldn't have been a comfortable ride back home amongst the many disgruntled Charlton fans.
What a lot of old tosh, she is the face of Roland's involvement in the club and therefore will be the one that gets the brunt of the abuse. If the avuse was personal that is wrong and totally different but if it was football related then it's fair game. She is a lawyer and would of been in heated arguments before. As she likes to use the words they need to understand, maybe she needs to understand fans won't accept the way this club us being run.
Agree. She's the face of the regime. We're always being told how intelligent she is, yet she got on a train after that shameful performance. What was she expecting?
Comments
Does she need consoling.
Sorry.
If a similar lack of understanding runs throughout the upper echelons of the club, it might also help to explain the questionable transfer policy and PR disasters
You work it out.
Gender doesn't come into it.
The football team is in tatters and the hands-on (hiring, firing, deciding players) CEO has to accept the buck stops with her.
I dont accept the "she is just a puppet" argument, then more fool her. Not going to comment on reports of something on a train but there is a level of acceptable criticism that I hope anyone doesnt cross.
Id certainly feel entitled to ask why she feels qualified to judge that Guy Luzon is Charlton material and why I "just have to accept it"
But I tell you what is embarrassing is grown men bringing a women close to tears on a train and other grown men defending that.
As she likes to use the words they need to understand, maybe she needs to understand fans won't accept the way this club us being run.
First of all I am a football fan - you cannot do this job if you are not a supporter," she says, having grown up as a keen supporter of Sint-Truiden, currently in the Belgian second division.
Continue reading the main story
“Start Quote
There are far too many agents who get far too much money for what they do”
Katrien Meire Charlton Athletic
"I am in this role because the owner believes in me. He also believes that women are better than men at managing budgets.
"I haven't felt I have been treated differently from men, it has been positive so far," she adds.
"Sometimes in meetings, for example, it can be an advantage - I am not just another guy in a suit.
"But of course it is up to me to prove that I am talking common sense too
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-29130982
If only we had a network of in-house suppliers with which we could swiftly swap out under-performing components... oh forgive me and my Aspergers!
So sad, so sad that she was 'shouting', although that may be a matter of fine judgement, so abject that passions collided as they have appeared to have done, I wish this wasn't true, and wish it wasn't as bad or damaging as my imagination tempts me to think.
mentalpassionate than we are.I have ZERO sympathy for the woman. If she is going to continue to be the mouthpiece for RD and the executor of his biddings then she will continue to come under pressure from the fans if things are not going right. She has a choice in this, if she doesn't like it, she can resign and let someone else take on the responsibility. Otherwise she needs to suck it up and accept it's part of the job.
Some might say she was either foolish or brave to get the same train as most fans but whatever it's not right or acceptable for her to be abused in the way that appears to have happened.