The term coach is widely used on the continent. I'm certain that using that term instead manager is nothing to worry about. However in actuality. If CP isn't selecting the incoming players then "coach" is exactly what he is.
Trouble is tactics and coaching is not CPs strong point. If he is not allowed to pick players who he knows have the right spirit and character then that is taking away one of his strengths. CP is a great man but I doubt that this current situation is going to do him or Charlton any favours.
Bout £1m based on the signing of Wilson and Piotr... Dont think any other fees have been involved unless Im mistaken?
As if you've included Piotr who he's just signed and has played 5 minutes in a discussion about how he's done in the Championship over the last 2 seasons. It's 400k for Wilson and that's it.
A generous new contract of say 3 years but with the unilateral right to terminate in the event of relegation this season is the most sensible way forward for the club in my view.
The term coach is widely used on the continent. I'm certain that using that term instead manager is nothing to worry about. However in actuality. If CP isn't selecting the incoming players then "coach" is exactly what he is.
Trouble is tactics and coaching is not CPs strong point. If he is not allowed to pick players who he knows have the right spirit and character then that is taking away one of his strengths. CP is a great man but I doubt that this current situation is going to do him or Charlton any favours.
Pity with all CP's strengths is not picking a winning team
The term coach is widely used on the continent. I'm certain that using that term instead manager is nothing to worry about. However in actuality. If CP isn't selecting the incoming players then "coach" is exactly what he is.
Trouble is tactics and coaching is not CPs strong point. If he is not allowed to pick players who he knows have the right spirit and character then that is taking away one of his strengths. CP is a great man but I doubt that this current situation is going to do him or Charlton any favours.
Pity with all CP's strengths is not picking a winning team
It is a bit of unholy alliance of a weak team and quite often not playing a balanced team or players in the wrong positions. The weakness of the squad limits CPs choices and magnifies the errors. Like I have said, I don't think that this situation will do CP or Charlton any good.
It looks like RD is hanging CP out to dry. I am not sure if CP would be advised to take the offer. NYA idea has some merit, without strengthening this season could go horribly wrong and respect CP and hate to see him go through that.
A generous new contract of say 3 years but with the unilateral right to terminate in the event of relegation this season is the most sensible way forward for the club in my view.
I can't see why CP would sign such a contract, to be honest. We're in this position because the squad is inadequate, why should he be punished for that?
I like Roland and think he is going to be very good for us in the long run. Let's work together to get over the line before May comes around. Then we can push on positively.
I watched a bit of the press conference with RD and CP. CP came across as a dignified, genuine and great person. Looking at CPs expression he was looking distinctly unimpressed. He did not look like a man who was going to agree a great new contract. It did look as though that he was being offered a KMG type contract with likely significant downgrading of role and money with significant reduction of control.
RD does not appear to be willing to pay sufficiently for strenghening to give CP a chance to avoid relegation. RD wants to use CP as a shield similar to TJ and MS. He appears to be putting CP in an impossible position. I am not impressed with the treatment.
I will be surprised if CP is manager for very long. Remember these are not just contract talks, these are RD contract talks on his teams. CP almost turned around to look at RD when RD did the compliment that CP is a very good coach and almost raised his eyebrows.
CP can leave with his head held high if he chooses not to accept the deal to 'manage' the relegation and agrees RD 'coach' position. Personally, I think he can do a lot better. I don't think the position RD is offering him will do him any favours. RD wins if CP does not agree a deal as he saves 3 months manager money. RD is a bit of a skinflint and Charlton will head into league one. Who knows whether the gamble that FFP will be properly be enforced will put Charlton in a position to compete again or new investment / owners come in to supplant / add to RD. That is a nice dream but it is just an unsubstantiated rumour similar to the one that RD is going to be good for Charlton.
What a Charlton legend Chris Powell is though. A great character. Crowd should give him their best at QPR.
I could see Powell rejecting the contract and walking. If he did that then we know Roland's offer isn't a very good one. There were rumours in papers they had fallen out at the end of the transfer window and he was about to leave
Cancelling the Bromley Addicks meeting last night 'due to unforeseen circumstances' continues to worry me. Hard to see a good/positive reason for the cancellation as the Press Conference ended mid-afternoon and given that nothing has emerged this morning around contract developments that might have tied Chris up last night. The cynic in me is telling me that Chris is in a difficult place at the moment and felt it best not to have to face awkward questions from the fans. That makes sense to me but, again, does not leave me feeling confident that a contract is anywhere near agreement.
Don't get me wrong, I think the guy is total class and a model to every professional in the game. However, failure to pick up wins soon VERY SOON is likely to have only one outcome.
I could see Powell rejecting the contract and walking. If he did that then we know Roland's offer isn't a very good one. There were rumours in papers they had fallen out at the end of the transfer window and he was about to leave
I fear you could be right here BRE. My observation, from just looking at that photo, is CP is having an uphill struggle trying to convince RD what he needs as a minimum to keep the team up this season. It's almost a look of despair and maybe with a bit of "parent/child" treatment from RD to make CP contemple his future with the club he loves?
OK, it is RD's money, but does he really know how to successfully operate an English Championship club? He appears to want to run it like a normal business without seeking to support the expertise (CP?) of those in the business? CP knows what he needs to get success from the team but I don't think RD wants to get deflected from his own vision. CP might also be facing a Yann-type decision regarding a lesser (or worse) contract than he expected. There are family implications here which would concern us all.
I hope I am way off track with these thoughts but I feel it will remain a major concern and unwanted diversion until CP's contract is resolved.
The term coach is widely used on the continent. I'm certain that using that term instead manager is nothing to worry about. However in actuality. If CP isn't selecting the incoming players then "coach" is exactly what he is.
Trouble is tactics and coaching is not CPs strong point. If he is not allowed to pick players who he knows have the right spirit and character then that is taking away one of his strengths. CP is a great man but I doubt that this current situation is going to do him or Charlton any favours.
I don't agree with that, you don't get a record league points tally without being a good coach.
A generous new contract of say 3 years but with the unilateral right to terminate in the event of relegation this season is the most sensible way forward for the club in my view.
I can't see why CP would sign such a contract, to be honest. We're in this position because the squad is inadequate, why should he be punished for that?
Nothing to do with he's tactics , subs or what he does on the training ground then ?
A generous new contract of say 3 years but with the unilateral right to terminate in the event of relegation this season is the most sensible way forward for the club in my view.
I can't see why CP would sign such a contract, to be honest. We're in this position because the squad is inadequate, why should he be punished for that?
Nothing to do with he's tactics , subs or what he does on the training ground then ?
are you daring to criticise SCP? Naughty, naughty. You should know by now that most on here are not concerned with such trivial matters as tactics, formation, subs etc etc as long as their manager is a great person.
A generous new contract of say 3 years but with the unilateral right to terminate in the event of relegation this season is the most sensible way forward for the club in my view.
I can't see why CP would sign such a contract, to be honest. We're in this position because the squad is inadequate, why should he be punished for that?
Nothing to do with he's tactics , subs or what he does on the training ground then ?
are you daring to criticise SCP? Naughty, naughty. You should know by now that most on here are not concerned with such trivial matters as tactics, formation, subs etc etc as long as their manager is a great person.
A generous new contract of say 3 years but with the unilateral right to terminate in the event of relegation this season is the most sensible way forward for the club in my view.
I can't see why CP would sign such a contract, to be honest. We're in this position because the squad is inadequate, why should he be punished for that?
Nothing to do with he's tactics , subs or what he does on the training ground then ?
are you daring to criticise SCP? Naughty, naughty. You should know by now that most on here are not concerned with such trivial matters as tactics, formation, subs etc etc as long as their manager is a great person.
I can only speak for myself who is a massive pro Powell person and manager and say that I want Chris signed up for the foreseeable future not because he is a great person but i believe has the ability to be a great manager.
I agree at times he has made incorrect decisions on tactics, subs starting 11 but in general like with Curbs i think he gets it right and learns. I feel this will bring him along over the years and we can have the benefit of that.
Chris is not a tactical genius. No one on this forum has ever suggested otherwise.
Some of us are capable of taking into account what the poor guy has to work with. Reading these topics and others on CL's moody little brother, I wonder if some fans have such a capacity.
No he's not but airman brown said we are only in this position because inadequate players , so I'm saying has it got nothing to do with Powell getting he's tactics and subs wrong on quite a few occasions .
A generous new contract of say 3 years but with the unilateral right to terminate in the event of relegation this season is the most sensible way forward for the club in my view.
I can't see why CP would sign such a contract, to be honest. We're in this position because the squad is inadequate, why should he be punished for that?
It's unrealistic to expect RD to buy the club, watch the first ten or so games (in which we've largely been garbage) and to want to rush to hand the incumbent manager a generous long-term contract without a get-out if we do indeed go down, especially in truly catastrophic circumstances.
However on the other hand RD might not want to destabilise an already troubled ship by sacking him mid-season, nor want to demotivate him by making it clear he won't renew his contract at the end of the season regardless (virtually the same as sacking him).
Effectively handing CP the opportunity to 'earn' his way into a generous say 3-year contract (by keeping us up, or at least improving us to some degree) seems a pretty sensible option in the circumstances.
From CP's point of view, I see no reason to think he would walk into another attractive managerial job quickly and hopefully he might conceivably believe in his ability enough to think he can keep us up.
Cawley reporting in the SLP today that SCP is 'keen' to have a 12 month rolling deal .Our favourite journo also says that Jimenez was reluctant to offer a deal because he was selling the club and that Duchalet has always made it clear that he wants SCP' to remain at the helm .'
If Chris Powell doesn't get offered a new contract. I will not be renewing my season ticket. Fed up with us selling our best players. No adequate replacements. Have no confidence in this new takeover at the moment. We seem to be missing out on loan players (we badly need some in view of the remaining fixtures). Only impressed with AA at the moment.
Cancelling the Bromley Addicks meeting last night 'due to unforeseen circumstances' continues to worry me.
The cynic in me is telling me that Chris is in a difficult place at the moment and felt it best not to have to face awkward questions from the fans. That makes sense to me but, again, does not leave me feeling confident that a contract is anywhere near agreement.
If CP and RD are discussing terms then it is fair to assume that CP will be offered a contract. The question is whether CP buys into RD's plans which centre on results achieved by bringing on young talent, and him having a financial package that is quite different to his present one. It probably means that in terms of CP balancing future loyalty to the Club, this will dependent on him fully embracing RD's ownership philosophy. It may be a tough decision for CP to make.im
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It looks like RD is hanging CP out to dry. I am not sure if CP would be advised to take the offer. NYA idea has some merit, without strengthening this season could go horribly wrong and respect CP and hate to see him go through that.
It may be misleading.
RD does not appear to be willing to pay sufficiently for strenghening to give CP a chance to avoid relegation. RD wants to use CP as a shield similar to TJ and MS. He appears to be putting CP in an impossible position. I am not impressed with the treatment.
I will be surprised if CP is manager for very long. Remember these are not just contract talks, these are RD contract talks on his teams. CP almost turned around to look at RD when RD did the compliment that CP is a very good coach and almost raised his eyebrows.
CP can leave with his head held high if he chooses not to accept the deal to 'manage' the relegation and agrees RD 'coach' position. Personally, I think he can do a lot better. I don't think the position RD is offering him will do him any favours. RD wins if CP does not agree a deal as he saves 3 months manager money. RD is a bit of a skinflint and Charlton will head into league one. Who knows whether the gamble that FFP will be properly be enforced will put Charlton in a position to compete again or new investment / owners come in to supplant / add to RD. That is a nice dream but it is just an unsubstantiated rumour similar to the one that RD is going to be good for Charlton.
What a Charlton legend Chris Powell is though. A great character. Crowd should give him their best at QPR.
Don't get me wrong, I think the guy is total class and a model to every professional in the game. However, failure to pick up wins soon VERY SOON is likely to have only one outcome.
OK, it is RD's money, but does he really know how to successfully operate an English Championship club? He appears to want to run it like a normal business without seeking to support the expertise (CP?) of those in the business? CP knows what he needs to get success from the team but I don't think RD wants to get deflected from his own vision. CP might also be facing a Yann-type decision regarding a lesser (or worse) contract than he expected. There are family implications here which would concern us all.
I hope I am way off track with these thoughts but I feel it will remain a major concern and unwanted diversion until CP's contract is resolved.
I'd like to hear some more of that fighting talk from him
I agree at times he has made incorrect decisions on tactics, subs starting 11 but in general like with Curbs i think he gets it right and learns. I feel this will bring him along over the years and we can have the benefit of that.
Some of us are capable of taking into account what the poor guy has to work with. Reading these topics and others on CL's moody little brother, I wonder if some fans have such a capacity.
However on the other hand RD might not want to destabilise an already troubled ship by sacking him mid-season, nor want to demotivate him by making it clear he won't renew his contract at the end of the season regardless (virtually the same as sacking him).
Effectively handing CP the opportunity to 'earn' his way into a generous say 3-year contract (by keeping us up, or at least improving us to some degree) seems a pretty sensible option in the circumstances.
From CP's point of view, I see no reason to think he would walk into another attractive managerial job quickly and hopefully he might conceivably believe in his ability enough to think he can keep us up.
Fed up with us selling our best players. No adequate replacements.
Have no confidence in this new takeover at the moment.
We seem to be missing out on loan players (we badly need some in view of the remaining fixtures).
Only impressed with AA at the moment.
The question is whether CP buys into RD's plans which centre on results achieved by bringing on young talent, and him having a financial package that is quite different to his present one.
It probably means that in terms of CP balancing future loyalty to the Club, this will dependent on him fully embracing RD's ownership philosophy. It may be a tough decision for CP to make.im