From Kent Online - Cut and pasted from the Rumours, Rumours Thread as more relevant here.
Lots of ifs and maybes still
Is Tony Hudd, a close friend of PDV still at the Kent Messenger? And didn't Alex Varney, Peter's son, play for Ebbsfleet?
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Former Charlton Athletic chief executive Peter Varney could yet be the man to help rescue crisis club Ebbsfleet United.
Varney is representing a Kuwaiti company looking to invest in a football club and the Messenger understands Ebbsfleet is one of the clubs the group is looking at.
Having brought financial stability back to The Valley, Mr Varney is now chief executive of KEH Sports Ltd, the newly-formed sports subsidiary of the Kuwaiti European Holding Company.
His job is to oversee the group’s planned and future investment in football in the UK – and those plans may centre around Stonebridge Road.
Mr Varney said: “Whether they (KEH) invest with somebody who already owns a club or they go alone, they want to build a club.
“I gave a presentation on football finances and I didn’t think anything more of it until I was approached by people who are looking to get involved in football. They asked if I would represent them and we had discussions. They went on to set up a sports subsidiary.
“It’s flattering to be approached to do something like this because a lot of people could do this sort of role.”
Could be true ... however would be disappointing as PV knows full well that if it is a success it could have an adverse impact on Charlton, albeit only with regard to future fanbase rather than existing and wavering fans
From an investment point of view, I can see the logic in acquiring Ebbsfleet. There's the proposed Paramount Park on the Swanscombe Peninsula and the Ebbsfleet International Station, both in close proximity and the "attractions" could easily be combined. So, why not pick up a non-league football team on the (very) cheap and turn them into the next Manchester City?
From an investment point of view, I can see the logic in acquiring Ebbsfleet. There's the proposed Paramount Park on the Swanscombe Peninsula and the Ebbsfleet International Station, both in close proximity and the "attractions" could easily be combined. So, why not pick up a non-league football team on the (very) cheap and turn them into the next Manchester City?
Interest in Eastbourne and now this suggests that they may not be into buying an already established league club, but want to build one up from non-league status.
Well, if they choose a club to turn into the next Citeh, I hope that it's nowhere near us - if they did buy Ebbsfleet and do that, it would have potentially devastating effect on our support. Combine that with the spammers development and it wouldn't leave us in a very good place....we'd be the meat in a megaclub sandwich - and who wants to be that?
building up a non league team over many years could be a very cheap way of doing it in the right location. All you'd have to do is try and build up the club's finances in an organic way, making sure the club lives within its means and get the correct appointment managerially and you could be making a money at premier league level without having put much money in at all.
I always wondered why more people weren't doing that.
anyone else know if any non league clubs could theoretically have a tier 1 academy? Would be a cheap option, spending £5million a year instead of spending lots on transfers and inflated wages and playing all the players that come through your academy. Would create a lot of support in the local community as well.
building up a non league team over many years could be a very cheap way of doing it in the right location. All you'd have to do is try and build up the club's finances in an organic way, making sure the club lives within its means and get the correct appointment managerially and you could be making a money at premier league level without having put much money in at all.
I always wondered why more people weren't doing that.
building up a non league team over many years could be a very cheap way of doing it in the right location. All you'd have to do is try and build up the club's finances in an organic way, making sure the club lives within its means and get the correct appointment managerially and you could be making a money at premier league level without having put much money in at all.
I always wondered why more people weren't doing that.
Because its easier said than done.
i guess that's what every non league team is trying to achieve, live within their means etc. I'm just having a good day dream
building up a non league team over many years could be a very cheap way of doing it in the right location. All you'd have to do is try and build up the club's finances in an organic way, making sure the club lives within its means and get the correct appointment managerially and you could be making a money at premier league level without having put much money in at all.
I always wondered why more people weren't doing that.
Run a non league club within its means, and in a few years you'll have a...non league club Or if you're lucky a L1 club (at most).
The clubs that have climbed the divisions in recent years are those that have spent money, like Crawley and Fleetwood, and even then they have a natural level as there's little support for them. The old Wimbledon grossly achieved, and only filled Selhurst by giving the away team nearly half the ground, as their fan base plateaued, even after several years in the PL. If Wigan go down, their gates will quickly fall away.
building up a non league team over many years could be a very cheap way of doing it in the right location. All you'd have to do is try and build up the club's finances in an organic way, making sure the club lives within its means and get the correct appointment managerially and you could be making a money at premier league level without having put much money in at all.
I always wondered why more people weren't doing that.
Run a non league club within its means, and in a few years you'll have a...non league club Or if you're lucky a L1 club (at most).
The clubs that have climbed the divisions in recent years are those that have spent money, like Crawley and Fleetwood, and even then they have a natural level as there's little support for them. The old Wimbledon grossly achieved, and only filled Selhurst by giving the away team nearly half the ground, as their fan base plateaued, even after several years in the PL. If Wigan go down, their gates will quickly fall away.
this, Charlton succeeded because we presumably have quite a large pool of natural support, having said that we lost a good few from dropping down a level, were they any kind of fan or just wanted premiership footy? We could well find out in coming months.
From an investment point of view, I can see the logic in acquiring Ebbsfleet. There's the proposed Paramount Park on the Swanscombe Peninsula and the Ebbsfleet International Station, both in close proximity and the "attractions" could easily be combined. So, why not pick up a non-league football team on the (very) cheap and turn them into the next Manchester City?
Even if they were successful and achieved L1 or Championship status within the next 10 years, how many would turn up to watch them 5, 6 or maybe 7,000 at most? They have no history and they certainly won't be nicking support off Charlton, Millwall or the Gills. Can't see this getting off the ground myself.
building up a non league team over many years could be a very cheap way of doing it in the right location. All you'd have to do is try and build up the club's finances in an organic way, making sure the club lives within its means and get the correct appointment managerially and you could be making a money at premier league level without having put much money in at all.
I always wondered why more people weren't doing that.
Wasn't this the plan with Rushden & Diamonds? Hasn't really worked out too well that plan.
How many non league owners have had dreams about spending a few quid and going all the way, and how many tines has it happened?
Are they really serious this crowd.whats with all this non leauge stuff.dont see them as serious players in the football world.eastbourne or ebbsfleet .no disrespect but must be looking for something for a hobby.
From an investment point of view, I can see the logic in acquiring Ebbsfleet. There's the proposed Paramount Park on the Swanscombe Peninsula and the Ebbsfleet International Station, both in close proximity and the "attractions" could easily be combined. So, why not pick up a non-league football team on the (very) cheap and turn them into the next Manchester City?
Even if they were successful and achieved L1 or Championship status within the next 10 years, how many would turn up to watch them 5, 6 or maybe 7,000 at most? They have no history and they certainly won't be nicking support off Charlton, Millwall or the Gills. Can't see this getting off the ground myself.
I take your point. But don't KEH have a business based upon hotel & leisure? I could see them linking up and partly paying for the Paramount Park. On match days, the ticket to watch a game could just be packaged in with a three-day pass to the theme park finishing off with a Disney-style firework display and other entertainment. Football generally hasn't thought outside the "be all and end all of 90 mins on the pitch, except for junk like comedy cheerleaders, fake fur mascots and other low rent entertainment. Paramount have the Transformers franchise don't they - now something like that would make a hell of a mascot!
Perhaps an opportunity to try something different. If 30,000+ people were going to the theme park anyway, why not hang around, watch a game, see some quality fireworks, then return (stay?) to the Park and catch a decent live band or go to a night club. Then there's all the cross-selling of merchandise at the various outlets. Who'd even need season ticket holders?
How many non league owners have had dreams about spending a few quid and going all the way, and how many tines has it happened?
Are they really serious this crowd.whats with all this non leauge stuff.dont see them as serious players in the football world.eastbourne or ebbsfleet .no disrespect but must be looking for something for a hobby.
No, there looking to make some money in which case the development and tourism around a ground are as important to them as the football club.
From MyFC: __________________________________________________________________________________________ UPDATE ON POTENTIAL NEW INVESTMENT IN EUFC
Shareholder representatives Brian Kilcullen representing the minority shareholders and Mark Curtis representing myfootballclub majority shareholders together with club Directors, today entered into detailed negotiations with KEH Sports Limited ( a subsidiary of Kuwaiti European Holdings Company) for the sale of the Football Club.
These negotiations are subject to due diligence and will also need the approval of Myfootballclub members.
Full details of the offer will be published tomorrow morning and will be put to a vote of all current members of Myfootballclub. Approval will require a 75% vote in favour by all those voting.
Please be ready to consider and vote on this matter. The vote will close on Monday 13 May at 11am.
Further notice will be sent to members as soon as full details are published and the vote is live.
I'd like to thank our negotiators for their work on this.
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Lots of ifs and maybes still
Is Tony Hudd, a close friend of PDV still at the Kent Messenger? And didn't Alex Varney, Peter's son, play for Ebbsfleet?
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Former Charlton Athletic chief executive Peter Varney could yet be the man to help rescue crisis club Ebbsfleet United.
Varney is representing a Kuwaiti company looking to invest in a football club and the Messenger understands Ebbsfleet is one of the clubs the group is looking at.
Having brought financial stability back to The Valley, Mr Varney is now chief executive of KEH Sports Ltd, the newly-formed sports subsidiary of the Kuwaiti European Holding Company.
His job is to oversee the group’s planned and future investment in football in the UK – and those plans may centre around Stonebridge Road.
Mr Varney said: “Whether they (KEH) invest with somebody who already owns a club or they go alone, they want to build a club.
“I gave a presentation on football finances and I didn’t think anything more of it until I was approached by people who are looking to get involved in football. They asked if I would represent them and we had discussions. They went on to set up a sports subsidiary.
“It’s flattering to be approached to do something like this because a lot of people could do this sort of role.”
So, why not pick up a non-league football team on the (very) cheap and turn them into the next Manchester City?
Well, if they choose a club to turn into the next Citeh, I hope that it's nowhere near us - if they did buy Ebbsfleet and do that, it would have potentially devastating effect on our support. Combine that with the spammers development and it wouldn't leave us in a very good place....we'd be the meat in a megaclub sandwich - and who wants to be that?
I do hope that this is all bollox.
I always wondered why more people weren't doing that.
Or if you're lucky a L1 club (at most).
The clubs that have climbed the divisions in recent years are those that have spent money, like Crawley and Fleetwood, and even then they have a natural level as there's little support for them. The old Wimbledon grossly achieved, and only filled Selhurst by giving the away team nearly half the ground, as their fan base plateaued, even after several years in the PL. If Wigan go down, their gates will quickly fall away.
Perhaps an opportunity to try something different. If 30,000+ people were going to the theme park anyway, why not hang around, watch a game, see some quality fireworks, then return (stay?) to the Park and catch a decent live band or go to a night club. Then there's all the cross-selling of merchandise at the various outlets.
Who'd even need season ticket holders?
No, there looking to make some money in which case the development and tourism around a ground are as important to them as the football club.
__________________________________________________________________________________________
UPDATE ON POTENTIAL NEW INVESTMENT IN EUFC
Shareholder representatives Brian Kilcullen representing the minority shareholders and Mark Curtis representing myfootballclub majority shareholders together with club Directors, today entered into detailed negotiations with KEH Sports Limited ( a subsidiary of Kuwaiti European Holdings Company) for the sale of the Football Club.
These negotiations are subject to due diligence and will also need the approval of Myfootballclub members.
Full details of the offer will be published tomorrow morning and will be put to a vote of all current members of Myfootballclub. Approval will require a 75% vote in favour by all those voting.
Please be ready to consider and vote on this matter. The vote will close on Monday 13 May at 11am.
Further notice will be sent to members as soon as full details are published and the vote is live.
I'd like to thank our negotiators for their work on this.
Paul Charnock (Arithon)
EUFC rep.
Follow this story with some interest now after seeing the terms of the offer.
MYFC could still scupper it by voting no - but it should easily be voted through.
Seems like it wasn't Charlton as some assumed it had to be.