Suicidal Football - Defence let us down but teams like Boro take there chances - we had some good runs but always seem to snatch at them. Confidence is a big issue now as we were as good if not better than Boro for much of the match apart from lapses at both ends.
BWP needs good service. He doesnt get that here im afraid. He thrives on passes down the side of centre backs and the only time ive seen our midfield do that this season was DS pass for Fullers against Watford.
I'm afraid - whilst his touch was still decent - BWP has got the confidence lapse he had in the second half of last season. If I was Sir Chris I'd be considering a hypnotist.
Just an observation but does anyone else here think BWP is having to come too deep to get the ball? I think he's at his best 20yds or so out running at the central defender's seems to me a large part of the problem is lack of service to the lad but I as ever could be wrong.
I think he thinks he has to work harder to compensate for lack of goals but in reality he is trying too hard. What was natural to him, isn't at the moment. I would say when he is full of confidence- he is one of th emost natural finishers we have had. That is why it is so frustrating. Maybe his dad can help him - there is a top player in there and the last few months have really saddened me.
Thing is with BWP he is what 26/27? He has never cut it in the Championship, we bought him for 100k from Plymouth in L1? Might get away with missing chances against Yeovil and Hartlepool but not against Boro, Leeds etc. Danny Haynes had more impact when he came on IMO and I can see him starting ahead of BWP once fit.
Thing is with BWP he is what 26/27? He has never cut it in the Championship, we bought him for 100k from Plymouth in L1? Might get away with missing chances against Yeovil and Hartlepool but not against Boro, Leeds etc. Danny Haynes had more impact when he came on IMO and I can see him starting ahead of BWP once fit.
Totally agree - Haynes will scare defenders. I'm afraid BWP spends more time avoiding getting clattered than anything else.
@daveaddick .. Just an observation but does anyone else here think BWP is having to come too deep to get the ball? I think he's at his best 20yds or so out running at the central defender's seems to me a large part of the problem is lack of service to the lad but I as ever could be wrong.
@daveaddick .. Just an observation but does anyone else here think BWP is having to come too deep to get the ball? I think he's at his best 20yds or so out running at the central defender's seems to me a large part of the problem is lack of service to the lad but I as ever could be wrong.
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I agree BWP does have to drop, but thats not the only problem, you have to play BWP in his best position, not as a target man, he's too lightweight to hold the ball up, see Ric Fuller for a lesson in that, BWP needs to run into the channels onto through balls, we don't seem to have the midfield to make these killer passes. See Darren Bent, great at running the channels but Spurs played him with his back to goal in a lot of games and it didnt work. Hence most Spud fans thought he was crap.
I think he thinks he has to work harder to compensate for lack of goals but in reality he is trying too hard. What was natural to him, isn't at the moment. I would say when he is full of confidence- he is one of th emost natural finishers we have had. That is why it is so frustrating. Maybe his dad can help him - there is a top player in there and the last few months have really saddened me.
Totally agree with this. BWP is there for his goals, he and everyone knows this. When he is not scoring it seems that as Muttley says he tries to work harder to compensate for his lack of goals but by doing this and by going looking for the ball it is taking him out of those positions that comes naturally to him where he scores the goals. I dont think it helped him last season when he was scoring goals that quite alot of fans were calling him lazy. I certainly dont think he can be accused of being lazy this season but in doing this i think its taken away his constant goal scoring threat as he is no longer in the positions.
So it could be argued, and i think this is a widespread and acknowledged view - that when he isn't scoring goals, he becomes a bit of a liability and unfortunately, he hasn't scored goals for a year. CP has been , to his credit, patient, but for me, Haynes should be given a go and when fuller is back, he should also be a head of BWP.
So it could be argued, and i think this is a widespread and acknowledged view - that when he isn't scoring goals, he becomes a bit of a liability and unfortunately, he hasn't scored goals for a year. CP has been , to his credit, patient, but for me, Haynes should be given a go and when fuller is back, he should also be a head of BWP.
Haynes is better at running at the opposition but give it 2 games and he'll be another victim of shit service
i would give haynes a chance, no doubt he will pull up with a hamstring injury though but he has looked dangerous in the games he has played.
With BWP, I believe he has enough ability to be a good championship striker. I would give him a couple of games in the development squad. Tell him to go back to basics, the stuff he was doing when he first joined us. Running in to the channels and making the runs behind defences. Hopefully he can notch a couple of goals and build his confidence up a bit. I dont think we need him to be dropping so deep looking for the ball.
So it could be argued, and i think this is a widespread and acknowledged view - that when he isn't scoring goals, he becomes a bit of a liability and unfortunately, he hasn't scored goals for a year. CP has been , to his credit, patient, but for me, Haynes should be given a go and when fuller is back, he should also be a head of BWP.
Haynes is better at running at the opposition but give it 2 games and he'll be another victim of shit service
Fuller's done okay though as is Hulse and kermo before him - can't keep making excuses for BWP - i'll leave it now - this is mno BWP witchhunt but he's living on reputation in my book.
i would give haynes a chance, no doubt he will pull up with a hamstring injury though but he has looked dangerous in the games he has played.
With BWP, I believe he has enough ability to be a good championship striker. I would give him a couple of games in the development squad. Tell him to go back to basics, the stuff he was doing when he first joined us. Running in to the channels and making the runs behind defences. Hopefully he can notch a couple of goals and build his confidence up a bit. I dont think we need him to be dropping so deep looking for the ball.
It may be a good tactic- tell him to be a bit more lazy and a bit more greedy and see what happens.
So it could be argued, and i think this is a widespread and acknowledged view - that when he isn't scoring goals, he becomes a bit of a liability and unfortunately, he hasn't scored goals for a year. CP has been , to his credit, patient, but for me, Haynes should be given a go and when fuller is back, he should also be a head of BWP.
Haynes is better at running at the opposition but give it 2 games and he'll be another victim of shit service
Fuller's done okay though as is Hulse and kermo before him - can't keep making excuses for BWP - i'll leave it now - this is mno BWP witchhunt but he's living on reputation in my book.
completely different type of striker mate. At the start of the L1 season we were playing some great stuff and BWP was thriving. Then teams started defending better against us, the football stopped and so did the service to BWP.
I don't think BWP needed things on a plate early last season. Some of his goals reminded me of his dad. He just had more belief but yes there were accusations that he was a bit lazy. Of course he wasn't in the true sense - he was constantly looking for opportunities. If you have a dry run you know that those fans who accept 'Lazy' when you score goals are going to point to uit when you don't - you change your game a little. That can be the difference between ghosting in or being in the wrong place. Another factor when confidence is low, especially if you are an instinctive player is that you start to think about what you are doing more. I think this is shown whenever BWP has a one on one- he just can't score them. He is a good player and one who I think can be effective at this level - but we are going to have to find a way to get his Mojo back..
I don't think BWP needed things on a plate early last season. Some of his goals reminded me of his dad. He just had more belief but yes there were accusations that he was a bit lazy. Of course he wasn't in the true sense - he was constantly looking for opportunities. If you have a dry run you know that those fans who accept 'Lazy' when you score goals are going to point to uit when you don't - you change your game a little. That can be the difference between ghosting in or being in the wrong place. Another factor when confidence is low, especially if you are an instinctive player is that you start to think about what you are doing more. I think this is shown whenever BWP has a one on one- he just can't score them. He is a good player and one who I think can be effective at this level - but we are going to have to find a way to get his Mojo back..
I was genuinely surprised by how good he was when he first joined us - he was far better than the player i'd seen playing against us previously. If he can recapture that form, great, but how long will it take and can we afford to keep persevering?
I'd play him in the reserves and tell him to focus on goals rather than workrate. Tell him we'll carry that part of his game - You can surely do this in these sort of games. He needs to get the finishing back and then th erest will look after itself.
I don't think BWP needed things on a plate early last season. Some of his goals reminded me of his dad. He just had more belief but yes there were accusations that he was a bit lazy. Of course he wasn't in the true sense - he was constantly looking for opportunities. If you have a dry run you know that those fans who accept 'Lazy' when you score goals are going to point to uit when you don't - you change your game a little. That can be the difference between ghosting in or being in the wrong place. Another factor when confidence is low, especially if you are an instinctive player is that you start to think about what you are doing more. I think this is shown whenever BWP has a one on one- he just can't score them. He is a good player and one who I think can be effective at this level - but we are going to have to find a way to get his Mojo back..
The last couple of points sum up BWP well for me. He is a good instinctive finisher as he has proved on many occasions. However IMO, when presented with an opportunity where he has that bit extra time to think, rather than act on instinct, he often fails to produce the goods. I don't fault him on work rate, nor his link up play.
I don't think BWP needed things on a plate early last season. Some of his goals reminded me of his dad. He just had more belief but yes there were accusations that he was a bit lazy. Of course he wasn't in the true sense - he was constantly looking for opportunities. If you have a dry run you know that those fans who accept 'Lazy' when you score goals are going to point to uit when you don't - you change your game a little. That can be the difference between ghosting in or being in the wrong place. Another factor when confidence is low, especially if you are an instinctive player is that you start to think about what you are doing more. I think this is shown whenever BWP has a one on one- he just can't score them. He is a good player and one who I think can be effective at this level - but we are going to have to find a way to get his Mojo back..
Bailey badly overhit a cross into the covered end in the first half and my son turned to me and said, "that's where his penalty went". He's 9. That's my boy!
Given that BWP IS talented and works a lot harder now than before and also given that he needs a through ball to be really effective and also given that no midfielder for charlton knows how to regularly give through balls to him he has to resort to being directly passed to and he just is not strong or fast enough to keep it and turn and therefore regularly loses the ball. Haynes is faster and better at turning and Fuller is stronger and can along with Hulse make the one time it does happen turn into a goal and it is for this reason that CP has to choose one or two of these to start
Haynes is the kind of player who will leave defenders standing and have a good 6 yards on them whilst they are looking to the lino looking for an offside.
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This !! .. you're definitely NOT wrong.
With BWP, I believe he has enough ability to be a good championship striker. I would give him a couple of games in the development squad. Tell him to go back to basics, the stuff he was doing when he first joined us. Running in to the channels and making the runs behind defences. Hopefully he can notch a couple of goals and build his confidence up a bit. I dont think we need him to be dropping so deep looking for the ball.
He is a good instinctive finisher as he has proved on many occasions.
However IMO, when presented with an opportunity where he has that bit extra time to think, rather than act on instinct, he often fails to produce the goods.
I don't fault him on work rate, nor his link up play.