Very worrying news - this will not go down very well at all with those supporters who know how much people like Airman did to ensure the survival of our club during some very dark times. I am finding it very hard to at all optimistic about the club at the moment. We've fallen a long way from the euphoria of last season, that's for sure.
Many younger fans will not know about the fights and struggles in the past, and the generation gap may well lead to dismissal of those efforts with a wave of the hand as something irrelevant from grandpas day. However we may not now be a (to quote Off-it) a cosy little club, but we don't want to wake up one day soon and be suprised we no longer have a club at all, just as we were suprised when we arrived at that game and got the handout saying we were moving to Selhurst Park. The struggles of the past may well be a good reference point to help in the future, and believe you me, there are some significant people who contribute here who deserve honour and thanks for what they did for Charlton...and typically those same individuals would be the first to deflect praise and say it was a team effort. Airman Browns sacking is a bitter blow against one such person, and we shrug off the impact of such an event at our peril.
you would not find on here any quote from Airman slagging off the Club. I am also sure that if he did want to slag off the club in any way he'd be prepared to tell them to their face and not behind their backs.
If the case against Airman is based purely on what he has said on forums then their case is non existant because you won't find anything detrimental here. Airman is the sort who'd choose his words carefully in public and would be mindful of putting himself into a situation that could cause him problems.
This makes last night seem even worse. Somehow just having RE at the club made me worry less. What everyone can see is that Palace strengthened their team and we didn't for whatever reason. I really doubt Powell is happy at all with his squad. Very worried.
If the above news is all correct, then I would like to add a few comments. First time I met this guy he thrust one corner of a banner into my hand. The banner read: We won't go to Sainsbury's. The Valley is CAFC No Valley = No Valiants At the time we were on the pitch, demonstrating after the Stoke-game. I personally didn't know what to do, but this other guy obviously came prepared. I would personally want this guy on my side, fighting with me, rather than against me. He is in fact, one of the most knowledgeable guys around when it comes to anything about Charlton. What he has done for this club is written in text forever. Truely terrible news if correct for Charlton and its fans. The next few weeks are going to be very interesting.
If the case against Airman is based purely on what he has said on forums then their case is non existant because you won't find anything detrimental here.
As I said, nobody knows - but people have different views on what may or may not be "detrimental". We may just think he was sharing useful information - but to the secret squirrels it may have been considered a threat.
Bad news if true. Rick runs like thread through the history of our club during the dark days. VOTV was a major influence back then and without that activism we would no longer be here. He also helped ordinary fans from his position at the club - he cared.
When you read the history books it's the transient players that get the glory but it's people like Rick that are the real club.
I wonder what proportion of our ST holders know about the Valley party and the role people like Rick had in BTTV and afterwards. Indeed i wonder how much news or gossip from CL and other forums permeates to the fan base generally. Football fans love to chat and gossip about the club as much as they do to watch the game. Hard to gauge I guess.
Good point - TBH, if i had put a shed load of dosh into a venture, i wouldnt want (or need) some oik slagging me off behind my back, regardless.
Yes but he's not just some oik, is he? Apart from the Valley fight, he went on to do sterling work for years helping to build the fanbase under the Murray-Simons regime. People have listed some of the things but lets do it again: Target 10/40,000, Kids for a Quid, Valley Express, the direct marketing efforts of later years, the willingness to sort out every single request from fans who approached him ready to spend money on Charlton if only they could overcome some obstacle (as you yourself mentioned).
He is, I grant you, not an easy person to manage in a corporate structure. But this is a people business. Unlike wheeling and dealing in property.
Rick didn't run the Club on his own and we still have a team of talented, hardworking managers who I won't name in case that is used as evidence against them in some future dismissal hearing. Neither did he get us back to the Valley on his todd although his contribution was huge.
More importantly we shouldn't confuse Rick's dismissal with the need for a Trust. If the former drives more people to the latter then all well and good but the Trust is important cause whether skies are gray or red and white
Rick didn't run the Club on his own and we still have a team of talented, hardworking managers who I won't name in case that is used as evidence against them in some future dismissal hearing. Neither did he get us back to the Valley on his todd although his contribution was huge.
More importantly we shouldn't confuse Rick's dismissal with the need for a Trust. If the former drives more people to the latter then all well and good but the Trust is important cause whether skies are gray or red and white
I agree with every word of course, and sorry that I failed to acknowledge that he was part of a fine team.
Mind you I'm sure they'd all agree that his drive in support of anything Charlton is awesome.
If he has gone, then I would rather have Rick Everitt spitting from inside the club than spitting from outside. The bloke has the club at heart, and though I can well believe he can rub people up the wrong way, maybe this has been his downfall with the new board.
Messy days ahead and hopefully a packed turnout for the trust meeting tuesday week.
If only every business had an employee like Airman, that cared passionately about their product, helped develop the product and gave their all in trying to improve the product and the way it was delivered.
So it makes no sense to me that you get rid of that employee. You use their skills and abilities to work with your corporate plan and ensure you move forward together. Then everybody wins.
Sad to see you go Airman and thanks for all your efforts over the years. As said many times your enthusiasm (along with a good many others I call my friends) helped drive our Club to places I never in my wildest dreams expected to go.
Rick was part of a good team, but so were Varney and Kavanagh. Prothero joins and the heart starts to be torn out of The Club. Who's next to go? My source at The Valley tells me Prothero and Murray dragged loads of staff into disciplinary meeting yesterday.
Rick was part of a good team, but so were Varney and Kavanagh. Prothero joins and the heart starts to be torn out of The Club. Who's next to go? My source at The Valley tells me Prothero and Murray dragged loads of staff into disciplinary meeting yesterday.
Airman: Just a message of personal support to say a big THANK YOU for all that you have done so far for us, the fans, and our club. Hang on in there buddy. I, personally, look forward to seeing you contribute to making the club's future something we all want to be proud of. You had a massive impact long before you were on the 'inside' and we're sure you'll have the same again. Thinking of you at what must be a difficult time.
Rick was part of a good team, but so were Varney and Kavanagh. Prothero joins and the heart starts to be torn out of The Club. Who's next to go? My source at The Valley tells me Prothero and Murray dragged loads of staff into disciplinary meeting yesterday.
Sounds like this could be the conclusion of the much heralded review of the club's management structure by Prothero. They were probably losing a few people & changing the roles and responsibilities of others. Let's see if we actually notice any difference once the new structure has been implemented.
Good point - TBH, if i had put a shed load of dosh into a venture, i wouldnt want (or need) some oik slagging me off behind my back, regardless.
Yes but he's not just some oik, is he? Apart from the Valley fight, he went on to do sterling work for years helping to build the fanbase under the Murray-Simons regime. People have listed some of the things but lets do it again: Target 10/40,000, Kids for a Quid, Valley Express, the direct marketing efforts of later years, the willingness to sort out every single request from fans who approached him ready to spend money on Charlton if only they could overcome some obstacle (as you yourself mentioned).
He is, I grant you, not an easy person to manage in a corporate structure. But this is a people business. Unlike wheeling and dealing in property.
Not an 'oik' in our eyes, but in the eyes of the new management who have no understanding or comprehension of our past and our struggles he is probably an oik.
One thing i will say about the Trust is please don't take it for granted. I believe we are at critical juncture. This is a third attempt, and if a lot of people who support it sit back and only offer limited support thinking others will do it - it will not grow as it needs to to succeed.
The message is simple subscribe yes, but if you really want there to be a supporters trust for our club, now is the time to show it and get down to the meeting on the 25th. Bring your partners, kids, pets, neighbours, colleagues, exes, strangers. Even if we have people queuing down the road, so be it.
Sounds like this could be the conclusion of the much heralded review of the club's management structure by Prothero. They were probably losing a few people & changing the roles and responsibilities of others. Let's see if we actually notice any difference once the new structure has been implemented.
I wish I could be as relaxed. I fear when we see the differences it will be too late. Rick has made an immense contribution to the sensible pricing, Valley Express and ticketing initiatives that have been instrumental in maintaining the club's support at even the recent reduced levels during the dark days. This is not just a PR exercise - it is the key to sustainability of the business. Look at the attendances elsewhere in the Championship.
As Henry and others have pointed out Rick was part of a team but the truth is his knowledge and drive was essential to the club's business. It is difficult to be optimistic about a management review that produces this outcome.
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Sadly, I don't for one minute think they give a shit Fanny.
However we may not now be a (to quote Off-it) a cosy little club, but we don't want to wake up one day soon and be suprised we no longer have a club at all, just as we were suprised when we arrived at that game and got the handout saying we were moving to Selhurst Park.
The struggles of the past may well be a good reference point to help in the future, and believe you me, there are some significant people who contribute here who deserve honour and thanks for what they did for Charlton...and typically those same individuals would be the first to deflect praise and say it was a team effort.
Airman Browns sacking is a bitter blow against one such person, and we shrug off the impact of such an event at our peril.
If the case against Airman is based purely on what he has said on forums then their case is non existant because you won't find anything detrimental here. Airman is the sort who'd choose his words carefully in public and would be mindful of putting himself into a situation that could cause him problems.
First time I met this guy he thrust one corner of a banner into my hand. The banner read:
We won't go to Sainsbury's.
The Valley is CAFC
No Valley = No Valiants
At the time we were on the pitch, demonstrating after the Stoke-game. I personally didn't know what to do, but this other guy obviously came prepared.
I would personally want this guy on my side, fighting with me, rather than against me. He is in fact, one of the most knowledgeable guys around when it comes to anything about Charlton. What he has done for this club is written in text forever.
Truely terrible news if correct for Charlton and its fans.
The next few weeks are going to be very interesting.
He is, I grant you, not an easy person to manage in a corporate structure. But this is a people business. Unlike wheeling and dealing in property.
Rick didn't run the Club on his own and we still have a team of talented, hardworking managers who I won't name in case that is used as evidence against them in some future dismissal hearing. Neither did he get us back to the Valley on his todd although his contribution was huge.
More importantly we shouldn't confuse Rick's dismissal with the need for a Trust. If the former drives more people to the latter then all well and good but the Trust is important cause whether skies are gray or red and white
Mind you I'm sure they'd all agree that his drive in support of anything Charlton is awesome.
Messy days ahead and hopefully a packed turnout for the trust meeting tuesday week.
So it makes no sense to me that you get rid of that employee. You use their skills and abilities to work with your corporate plan and ensure you move forward together. Then everybody wins.
Sad to see you go Airman and thanks for all your efforts over the years. As said many times your enthusiasm (along with a good many others I call my friends) helped drive our Club to places I never in my wildest dreams expected to go.
"They know not what they do".
I'm not saying anything else, because some posters accuse us of being doommongers.
Another big loss to the club.
I seriously hope Jimenez knows what he's doing, but I have grave doubts.
Best wishes & thanks to Rick for everything he has done for our club.
I doubt very very much SK left the CLUB of his own accord.
The message is simple subscribe yes, but if you really want there to be a supporters trust for our club, now is the time to show it and get down to the meeting on the 25th. Bring your partners, kids, pets, neighbours, colleagues, exes, strangers. Even if we have people queuing down the road, so be it.
This is Your Trust for Your Club.
R
Sounds like this could be the conclusion of the much heralded review of the club's management structure by Prothero. They were probably losing a few people & changing the roles and responsibilities of others. Let's see if we actually notice any difference once the new structure has been implemented.
I wish I could be as relaxed. I fear when we see the differences it will be too late. Rick has made an immense contribution to the sensible pricing, Valley Express and ticketing initiatives that have been instrumental in maintaining the club's support at even the recent reduced levels during the dark days. This is not just a PR exercise - it is the key to sustainability of the business. Look at the attendances elsewhere in the Championship.
As Henry and others have pointed out Rick was part of a team but the truth is his knowledge and drive was essential to the club's business. It is difficult to be optimistic about a management review that produces this outcome.