There have been a large number of very unsettling senior departures from the Valley over the last few months. This has all been triggered by Kevin Cash refusing to continue to invest in the club & apparently now actively looking to sell his existing stake. A great deal of turmoil has been caused by these actions & Chris Powell has not received the support he was promised.
We also appear to have the situation where the Chairman of the Board, Michael Slater, will follow the others out the door as soon as Mr Cash can find a buyer. This is a crazy situation & can only mean very short term decision making at Board level. Unfortunately all of these behind the scene shenanigans have also had a major impact on the team this season, through lack of any meaningful investment in players, & the whole mess really does need to be resolved quickly.
I'm absolutely gutted for Rick, who is a Charlton stalwart of many years standing. There are some seriously major negative vibes coming out of the club at the moment & I do worry what may happen next. It's all such a shame coming on the back of such a hugely successful season last year.
If this is true this is a very very bad thing I would say. I just don't know what's going on at the club. In fact, what is going on? Someone tell me please. Is there anything positive in all this? I'm totally bewildered. Last year everything seemed so rosy and now it all seems to be going pear shaped. What the f... is happening??
Interested what the gross misconduct is for assume relating to the tales of our financial woe on this site?
If that is the case, well Rick can have this as evidence for the case against:
I would be pleased to call Rick a friend, but we are hardly in contact, due to my location and infrequent visits. I can tell you exactly when and from whom I learnt on CL that there were problems. I was sitting in a cellar of a Stockholm pub morosely checking CL at half time of the England-Italy grimness. I started reading comments from Plaaayer. I don't know Plaaayer from Adam, but I always enjoyed his posts which were almost exclusively wisecracks. Suddenly he was writing that we are in the shit. He was like the actor on stage whose supporting role has had a heart attack and the audience still think its part of the act. I just knew insitnctively this wasn't just gossip. There were several other people here, who like Plaaayer didn't in the past comment on the business side, who also clearly had credible info.
It's a people business. If there are serious issues in the business, they will get out and the internet simply spreads the news faster. If they think that by trumping up some charge against Rick everything will go quiet and we will concentrate on trashing various players and the manager's tactics, like we prols should do, they are seriously mistaken.
Interested what the gross misconduct is for assume relating to the tales of our financial woe on this site?
If that is the case, well Rick can have this as evidence for the case against:
I would be pleased to call Rick a friend, but we are hardly in contact, due to my location and infrequent visits. I can tell you exactly when and from whom I learnt on CL that there were problems. I was sitting in a cellar of a Stockholm pub morosely checking CL at half time of the England-Italy grimness. I started reading comments from Plaaayer. I don't know Plaaayer from Adam, but I always enjoyed his posts which were almost exclusively wisecracks. Suddenly he was writing that we are in the shit. He was like the actor on stage whose supporting role has had a heart attack and the audience still think its part of the act. I just knew insitnctively this wasn't just gossip. There were several other people here, who like Plaaayer didn't in the past comment on the business side, who also clearly had credible info.
It's a people business. If there are serious issues in the business, they will get out and the internet simply spreads the news faster. If they think that by trumping up some charge against Rick everything will go quiet and we will concentrate on trashing various players and the manager's tactics, like we prols should do, they are seriously mistaken.
The sort of post that leaves me grasping for the 'like' button that isn't there.
I'm very upset to hear this news. I've met Rick a few times although he probably doesn't remember me to be honest. This is a dark day for the club to dispense with such an important character in our history.
I worry about the immediate future of the club and sometimes wish there was no internet - ignorance is bliss.
He has been and still is a huge figure in the history of the club as he well knows. My impression of him is that he is someone who stands his ground understands political manoeuvring and appreciates loyalty, and is someone you would rather have on your side than not.
Just opened last nights programme and the first page is 'Football for a Fiver' related to the home match with Barnsley on Saturday October 20th. The article is written by Rick Everitt, and the initiative I imagine is driven and organised and co-ordinated by Rick too. Will Mr Protheroe now do the work of making sure this initiative is the usual success?
Looks like its true. If the club said to Airman " u get 3 months money---do a hand over and leave in two weeks but you have to sign this non disclosure letter"------------you might not know what actually happened.
As for gross dismissal , we dont know what is in his contract. If there was some form of non disclosure (can be formed in many ways) then the club may have used that for what ever reasons it has decided to.
The older fans wont forget what he helped do for CAFC in the dark old days of SellOut Park, he might be one of those Labour twonks, but without Airman it can be argued( i would totaly agree) there wouldnt be a CAFC.
Airman made several posts about the financial position of the club during the summer. When I make posts, it's just as an outsider (with an opinion) whereas he clearly speaks with authority and carries clout.
2 possibilities spring to mind
1) If what he said was the truth, I can't see MS and TJ appreciating an employee revealing confidential information about the club to the public, even if the intentions were good. If I revealed on here confidential information about the finances of my employer, I would face dismissal...
2) If what he said WASN'T true, then potentially that's even worse, MS and TJ could then charge him with acting against the interests of the club.
Either way, there would be good grounds for getting rid of someone if they wanted to
Would it be a good idea to get rick on the supporters trust ?
It would be a very, very, good idea....... I imagine you mean playing a part/role on that, which like the rest of us can all do so at the meeting at the conservative club later on this month. All Charlton fans welcome, please attend and support the trust.
This just goes to show how dangerous it can be posting comments or leaking information if you are in a position of trust. All those people on here who keep moaning about people ITK not identifying their sources should at least now understand why. This is another very sad day for CAFC.
Airman made several posts about the financial position of the club during the summer. When I make posts, it's just as an outsider (with an opinion) whereas he clearly speaks with authority and carries clout.
2 possibilities spring to mind
1) If what he said was the truth, I can't see MS and TJ appreciating an employee revealing confidential information about the club to the public, even if the intentions were good. If I revealed on here confidential information about the finances of my employer, I would face dismissal...
2) If what he said WASN'T true, then potentially that's even worse, MS and TJ could then charge him with acting against the interests of the club.
Either way, there would be good grounds for getting rid of someone if they wanted to
You may be right, but can you point me in the direction of the 'several posts about the financial position'?
Airman made several posts about the financial position of the club during the summer. When I make posts, it's just as an outsider (with an opinion) whereas he clearly speaks with authority and carries clout.
2 possibilities spring to mind
1) If what he said was the truth, I can't see MS and TJ appreciating an employee revealing confidential information about the club to the public, even if the intentions were good. If I revealed on here confidential information about the finances of my employer, I would face dismissal...
2) If what he said WASN'T true, then potentially that's even worse, MS and TJ could then charge him with acting against the interests of the club.
Either way, there would be good grounds for getting rid of someone if they wanted to
You may be right, but can you point me in the direction of the 'several posts about the financial position'?
Seconded. Did you actually read what I wrote about about my first alert on here that something was up? There were several people - people who never normally remotely claim to be "ITK" - who were posting credible, worrying stuff.And I know that they didnt get it from Airman, because I had private conversations with some of them. I think you are confusing them with Airman, who, believe it or not is careful about what he writes.
He has also stoutly defended club policies and directors' behaviour here in the past when they were unfairly criticised in comments.
Am I the only one who feels that this should be left alone until some more facts emerge? It seems that a well-respected man has lost his job - is this speculation and digging up old posts (assuming they exist) going to help?
There have been a large number of very unsettling senior departures from the Valley over the last few months. This has all been triggered by Kevin Cash refusing to continue to invest in the club & apparently now actively looking to sell his existing stake. A great deal of turmoil has been caused by these actions & Chris Powell has not received the support he was promised.
We also appear to have the situation where the Chairman of the Board, Michael Slater, will follow the others out the door as soon as Mr Cash can find a buyer. This is a crazy situation & can only mean very short term decision making at Board level. Unfortunately all of these behind the scene shenanigans have also had a major impact on the team this season, through lack of any meaningful investment in players, & the whole mess really does need to be resolved quickly.
I'm absolutely gutted for Rick, who is a Charlton stalwart of many years standing. There are some seriously major negative vibes coming out of the club at the moment & I do worry what may happen next. It's all such a shame coming on the back of such a hugely successful season last year.
Well said, Red Pete.
Maybe it's time for the ostriches to acknowledge what is happening at our Club.
And to put their weight behind the Supporters' Trust ASAP.
I hadn't posted this previously as was waiting to see what developed, but the September Fans' Forum meeting has been cancelled , with an email from Rick stating that , in light of Steve K's departure, the Club is effectively without a Chief Executive. He continued that both he and Wendy, would be unable to speak for the Club regarding the kind of questions that members would invariably be asking and with Michael Slater unlikely to be present, he felt it best to postpone the meeting for the time being.
I am posting this now as I was due to add an item to the agenda regarding catering at The Valley , on behalf of Lifers who raised concerns on here at the start of the season. Sorry, guys.
I do wonder whether the FF will continue to exist but will let everyone know if I receive any news. Don't hold your breath though....
Meanwhile, I pledge my support to not only NWKA but also the ST , as I hope will all who read this.We fans need to stick together now more than ever before IMHO.
Bad news if true. Rick runs like thread through the history of our club during the dark days. VOTV was a major influence back then and without that activism we would no longer be here. He also helped ordinary fans from his position at the club - he cared.
When you read the history books it's the transient players that get the glory but it's people like Rick that are the real club.
Am I the only one who feels that this should be left alone until some more facts emerge? It seems that a well-respected man has lost his job - is this speculation and digging up old posts (assuming they exist) going to help?
In my case I am seeking to point out that any suggestion that Airman Brown was responsible for kicking off the talk on here that our financial situation was perilous is manifestly wrong. If stuff on here is part of their case, then their case is bollocks, and @killerandflash should not help them use such bollocks to try and get rid of him (although I don't suggest he does so deliberately).
Furthermore, since people representing Slater in this issue are no doubt patrolling this and other threads for 'evidence' I am pointing out - for their benefit - that they will be unsuccessful if their goal is to stop information and discussion on this site about the financial situation. On the contrary, I expect it will increase.
Whats Richard Murrays Bank Balance like at the moment? - and yet people slagged him off !! Must admit, never knew Rick, however, on the one occasion i spoke to him via email re ticket problems, he made me feel very important, and sorted the problem for me. Good luck to him, wherever it may take him.
Gutted for him. I was firmly in the "things aren't as bad as everyone is saying" camp but now I'm not so sure. A good Charlton man who has helped lead us out of dark times has lost his job. Not a good weekend to be an addick
I wonder what Richard Murray thinks about this. Rick was one of the driving forces behind the Back To The Valley campaign, along with Steve Dixon and many, many others who put their all in returning the club to it's rightful home. All the best for the future, Rick. For some reason, that I can't work out at the moment, I find this departure much more sinister than PV's and SK's earlier this summer. Nothings ever what it seems at Charlton............................
@PragueAddick, point taken - I was just trying to stop the speculation about the reasons why Rick is no longer an employee of CAFC. I think we are singing from the same hymn-sheet.
This may be a slightly contoversial view, but I think people need to understand that we are not the same cosy little club run and owned by fans that we once were.
I mean, we don't even know for sure who our bloody owners are, let alone what their intentions may be. The club seems shrouded in secrecy these days and as that's clearly the way the powers that be like it, it's probably no surprise that they may not look too favourably on anyone who discloses information to the fans - even if that information isn't particularly sensitive.
Not saying that's what's happened here because I don't know - I don't think anyone does (which seems to be par for the course these days) but over the years I have read some of Airman's posts - during the tenure of both the new and the old regiemes - and wondered if a normal employee in any other organisation may face censure for some of them.
People who run or invest in businesses tend not to like being crticised, not publicly and certainly not from within their own business.
We've been the beneficiaries of some very open and transparent dealings in the past, but I think those days are now long gone.
This may be a slightly contoversial view, but I think people need to understand that we are not the same cosy little club run and owned by fans that we once were.
I mean, we don't even know for sure who our bloody owners are, let alone what their intentions may be. The club seems shrouded in secrecy these days and as that's clearly the way the powers that be like it, it's probably no surprise that they may not look too favourably on anyone who discloses information to the fans - even if that information isn't particularly sensitive.
Not saying that's what's happened here because I don't know - I don't think anyone does (which seems to be par for the course these days) but over the years I have read some of Airman's posts - during the tenure of both the new and the old regiemes - and wondered if a normal employee in any other organisation may face censure for some of them.
People who run or invest in businesses tend not to like being crticised, not publicly and certainly not from within their own business.
We've been the beneficiaries of some very open and transparent dealings in the past, but I think those days are now long gone.
Understand where you're coming from, Off_it.
However, as the song says " You don't know what you've got 'til it's gone"......
..and I believe our "owners" may be reflecting on that before too long.
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We also appear to have the situation where the Chairman of the Board, Michael Slater, will follow the others out the door as soon as Mr Cash can find a buyer. This is a crazy situation & can only mean very short term decision making at Board level. Unfortunately all of these behind the scene shenanigans have also had a major impact on the team this season, through lack of any meaningful investment in players, & the whole mess really does need to be resolved quickly.
I'm absolutely gutted for Rick, who is a Charlton stalwart of many years standing. There are some seriously major negative vibes coming out of the club at the moment & I do worry what may happen next. It's all such a shame coming on the back of such a hugely successful season last year.
I would be pleased to call Rick a friend, but we are hardly in contact, due to my location and infrequent visits. I can tell you exactly when and from whom I learnt on CL that there were problems. I was sitting in a cellar of a Stockholm pub morosely checking CL at half time of the England-Italy grimness. I started reading comments from Plaaayer. I don't know Plaaayer from Adam, but I always enjoyed his posts which were almost exclusively wisecracks. Suddenly he was writing that we are in the shit. He was like the actor on stage whose supporting role has had a heart attack and the audience still think its part of the act. I just knew insitnctively this wasn't just gossip. There were several other people here, who like Plaaayer didn't in the past comment on the business side, who also clearly had credible info.
It's a people business. If there are serious issues in the business, they will get out and the internet simply spreads the news faster. If they think that by trumping up some charge against Rick everything will go quiet and we will concentrate on trashing various players and the manager's tactics, like we prols should do, they are seriously mistaken.
I worry about the immediate future of the club and sometimes wish there was no internet - ignorance is bliss.
My impression of him is that he is someone who stands his ground understands political manoeuvring and appreciates loyalty, and is someone you would rather have on your side than not.
Will Mr Protheroe now do the work of making sure this initiative is the usual success?
As for gross dismissal , we dont know what is in his contract. If there was some form of non disclosure (can be formed in many ways) then the club may have used that for what ever reasons it has decided to.
The older fans wont forget what he helped do for CAFC in the dark old days of SellOut Park, he might be one of those Labour twonks, but without Airman it can be argued( i would totaly agree) there wouldnt be a CAFC.
2 possibilities spring to mind
1) If what he said was the truth, I can't see MS and TJ appreciating an employee revealing confidential information about the club to the public, even if the intentions were good. If I revealed on here confidential information about the finances of my employer, I would face dismissal...
2) If what he said WASN'T true, then potentially that's even worse, MS and TJ could then charge him with acting against the interests of the club.
Either way, there would be good grounds for getting rid of someone if they wanted to
I imagine you mean playing a part/role on that, which like the rest of us can all do so at the meeting at the conservative club later on this month. All Charlton fans welcome, please attend and support the trust.
He has also stoutly defended club policies and directors' behaviour here in the past when they were unfairly criticised in comments.
Maybe it's time for the ostriches to acknowledge what is happening at our Club.
And to put their weight behind the Supporters' Trust ASAP.
I hadn't posted this previously as was waiting to see what developed, but the September Fans' Forum meeting has been cancelled , with an email from Rick stating that , in light of Steve K's departure, the Club is effectively without a Chief Executive. He continued that both he and Wendy, would be unable to speak for the Club regarding the kind of questions that members would invariably be asking and with Michael Slater unlikely to be present, he felt it best to postpone the meeting for the time being.
I am posting this now as I was due to add an item to the agenda regarding catering at The Valley , on behalf of Lifers who raised concerns on here at the start of the season. Sorry, guys.
I do wonder whether the FF will continue to exist but will let everyone know if I receive any news. Don't hold your breath though....
Meanwhile, I pledge my support to not only NWKA but also the ST , as I hope will all who read this.We fans need to stick together now more than ever before IMHO.
Jean
When you read the history books it's the transient players that get the glory but it's people like Rick that are the real club.
Furthermore, since people representing Slater in this issue are no doubt patrolling this and other threads for 'evidence' I am pointing out - for their benefit - that they will be unsuccessful if their goal is to stop information and discussion on this site about the financial situation. On the contrary, I expect it will increase.
Must admit, never knew Rick, however, on the one occasion i spoke to him via email re ticket problems, he made me feel very important, and sorted the problem for me.
Good luck to him, wherever it may take him.
I mean, we don't even know for sure who our bloody owners are, let alone what their intentions may be. The club seems shrouded in secrecy these days and as that's clearly the way the powers that be like it, it's probably no surprise that they may not look too favourably on anyone who discloses information to the fans - even if that information isn't particularly sensitive.
Not saying that's what's happened here because I don't know - I don't think anyone does (which seems to be par for the course these days) but over the years I have read some of Airman's posts - during the tenure of both the new and the old regiemes - and wondered if a normal employee in any other organisation may face censure for some of them.
People who run or invest in businesses tend not to like being crticised, not publicly and certainly not from within their own business.
We've been the beneficiaries of some very open and transparent dealings in the past, but I think those days are now long gone.
However, as the song says " You don't know what you've got 'til it's gone"......
..and I believe our "owners" may be reflecting on that before too long.