Well if he did that, please direct me to the relevant message board. Because I never saw anything on this one.
Of course there is always a certain kind of director that thinks that not being entirely on message is a sackable offence. Airman was frequently off message all through the Murray years, but RM was able to manage that because RM built and run a 'people' business (Avesco).
If he has gone, could it be as part of the Martin Prothero review of the management structure?
I am a little confused here...if Mr Protheroe is reviewing things, does it follow that he makes suggestions which inform decisions made by others? Has he been around the club long enough to know whats what and what is needed? Is there any clarity as to Mr Protheroes role? I mean is he now in charge with the power to hire and fire?
Well if he did that, please direct me to the relevant message board. Because I never saw anything on this one.
Of course there is always a certain kind of director that thinks that not being entirely on message is a sackable offence. Airman was frequently off message all through the Murray years, but RM was able to manage that because RM built and run a 'people' business (Avesco).
There were quotes from Airman about our financial position back in June (something like 'I will be happy if we last the season'), which could be considered revealing confidential information or acting against the interests of the club, and used against him by hostile management. I hope not
How about waiting.....and let Mr Everitt answer. Knowing Rick as I do,if there is a problem,and He can talk about it, He will let us know. Speculation and rumours gets no-one nowhere.
Out of curiosity, how many people who ARE ITK are because of Airman? If I was in a position of power such as Slater of Jimanez and I had suspicions that a senior employee was telling private club matters to friends, I would feed him/her some false information - with the proviso that they would not share the information - to see if it went anywhere. If this rumour gets out, you have your mole and you can continue to run the club with the safety net of not having someone feeding their ego on sites like this.
Now I don't know Airman and I hope this doesn't offend anyone because I have heard what he has done for the club, but sharing company secrets is just not acceptible. If falls under the same banner of insider trading so if the said person was in a bank they would probably not only be fired, but potentially prosecuted.
I'm not ITK about CAFC and didn't get any info from Rick other than Target 40k but I sit on that group.
What I am ITK about is employment law.
If, as it would appear from the above rumours, he has been dismissed for Gross Misconduct, then don't expect to hear anything from him while the legally required process is still underway. There will have to be a hearing which I assume will be on 28th September.
Employees can then also opt to take their employers to an independent employment tribunial on the ground of unfair dismissal. Think Mark McCammon and Gillingham and the amount of dirty laundry that got washed in public then.
I really hope this is not true. Rick's a true and loyal supporter of the club, who although we have not met I have a considerable regard for. Personally I think he has played a major part in supporting the club in so many ways. Although I have at times had different views from him, I knew he had the clubs best interests at heart. Tried to contact him last week, at the club. Thought it odd when he did not reply personally.......
I'm not ITK about CAFC and didn't get any info from Rick other than Target 40k but I sit on that group.
What I am ITK about is employment law.
If, as it would appear from the above rumours, he has been dismissed for Gross Misconduct, then don't expect to hear anything from him while the legally required process is still underway. There will have to be a hearing which I assume will be on 28th September.
Employees can then also opt to take their employers to an independent employment tribunial on the ground of unfair dismissal. Think Mark McCammon and Gillingham and the amount of dirty laundry that got washed in public then.
Out of curiosity, how many people who ARE ITK are because of Airman?
I think you'll find that any organisation apart from MI5 or something leaks like a colander. Last night there were nearly 22k at the Valley, in that context it doesn't take a genius to work out that any serious news would get out there.
Well if he did that, please direct me to the relevant message board. Because I never saw anything on this one.
Of course there is always a certain kind of director that thinks that not being entirely on message is a sackable offence. Airman was frequently off message all through the Murray years, but RM was able to manage that because RM built and run a 'people' business (Avesco).
There were quotes from Airman about our financial position back in June (something like 'I will be happy if we last the season'), which could be considered revealing confidential information or acting against the interests of the club, and used against him by hostile management. I hope not
My reading is that Airman was supportive of the present board when posting several times about the Lansdown Mews fiasco, and that is my only memory of Airmans posts regarding club business.
On Rick as a person he can be abrasive, opinionated and argumentative. So suprising as those of you who know me might find this Rick and I occasionally clashed : - )
But I soon learnt that if you were going to disagree with Rick then you better have a strong coherent arguement as he was sure to have that as well as a mountain of stats to back up what he said.
There will be a few Charlton fans celebrating that he has left, mainly those who can't see beyond their own extreame right wing views who never liked the fact the Club took an Anti-racist stance in part lead by Rick.
They would also ignore the long hours he spent building the fan base via the many ticket iniatives such a footballforafiver and Valley Express. He also lead the fight for affordable ticket prices to maximise income rather than the other option of high prices that we see at the likes of Ipswich. One reason our crowds have held up so well in the recent decline.
If the rumours of an orchestrated gross dismissal are true then the new board are shotting themsleves in the foot, losing yet another valuable staff member who had and has the long term interests of Charlton Atheltic Football Club and not his bank balance in his heart.
On Rick as a person he can be abrasive, opinionated and argumentative. So suprising as those of you who know me might find this Rick and I occasionally clashed : - )
But I soon learnt that if you were going to disagree with Rick then you better have a strong coherent arguement as he was sure to have that as well as a mountain of stats to back up what he said.
There will be a few Charlton fans celebrating that he has left, mainly those who can't see beyond their own extreame right wing views who never liked the fact the Club took an Anti-racist stance in part lead by Rick.
They would also ignore the long hours he spent building the fan base via the many ticket iniatives such a footballforafiver and Valley Express. He also lead the fight for affordable ticket prices to maximise income rather than the other option of high prices that we see at the likes of Ipswich. One reason our crowds have held up so well in the recent decline.
If the rumours of an orchestrated gross dismissal are true then the new board are shotting themsleves in the foot, losing yet another valuable staff member who had and has the long term interests of Charlton Atheltic Football Club and not his bank balance in his heart.
Prior to working to help the club from the inside I believe Airman is one of the most significant individuals who have given us a club to support at all. Good post Henry.
If the rumours of an orchestrated gross dismissal are true then the new board are shotting themsleves in the foot, losing yet another valuable staff member who had and has the long term interests of Charlton Atheltic Football Club and not his bank balance in his heart.
I know we don't know all the facts yet ... but this board is definitely not there for the long-term and so do not care about such issues ... they want us to attract a premium price at some indeterminate date in the future and then will sell us on as a 'commodity'. Apart from Murray, whose hands may be tied somewhat, we now have no-one with the club's long-term interests in position.
Rick played by the Murray school of rules in which the value of someone was recognised and appreciated. This bloody lot only know about costs. Bah! and bah! again.
When this board get bored and lose interest in building success they will leave and when they do i sincerely hope all our 'real owners', i.e the fans that have worked tirelessly for our club, will all return and once again make our club ours and not some faceless nobody with a big wallett.
The phrase 'keep your friends close, keep your enemies even closer' springs to mind. Always struck me as a clever appointment in the first place. If his departure is anything but mutual then I imagine the board fear his remaining in position is a greater risk to them than his removal. The plot thickens.
Only met Rick a couple of times when I was writing the odd piece for VOTV and he was a decent bloke. Sad news and another step to voiding the club of any real soul and understanding of what CAFC is all about.
Woke up this morning and hoped that yesterday evening had all been a bad dream and that I really hadn't seen Lennie with a huge smug smile on his face. Sadly it wasn't and this confirmation is depressing and worrying. So many of us remember the dark years of Selhurst and Upton Park when off the pitch the only beam of liight was VOTV and the campaign it sparked into life. I do wonder what it's all about sometimes, life in general and Charlton in particular just keeps tryng to knock you down: on one day we're singing 'we've got our Charlton back', the next day it's slipping away again. Hopefully, in the fullness of time RE will be able to knock out another book, in the meantime Lennies is going in the bin!
P.S I take it that in the current tradition of the club there will not be a note in the programme paying tribute to RE for his invaluable services to CAFC, both as a supporter and an employee.
I don't know Rick and am definitely not in the know. What I do know however is RE was a very prominent supporter and fans leader in those very dark days when we looked like we could lose our club. Without him and others who were prepared to get off their arses we wouldn't even be having this discussion. I am very sad if this is true.
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He's the best marketing manager this club has ever had, even though he detests the very word.
Normally when I'm here I sit near him but was with Razil tonight, so I haven't seen him. I fear it's true though. Utterly crap night for my club.
Join the Trust everybody. We cannot leave things to chance.
Redundancy, as in his job no longer exists in the organisation
or dismissal, where he has been sacked for gross misconduct. Revealing secrets on message boards?!?
Of course there is always a certain kind of director that thinks that not being entirely on message is a sackable offence. Airman was frequently off message all through the Murray years, but RM was able to manage that because RM built and run a 'people' business (Avesco).
anotherbiggest mistake to date . Rick is definitely someone they need to have on their side.Is there any clarity as to Mr Protheroes role? I mean is he now in charge with the power to hire and fire?
Now I don't know Airman and I hope this doesn't offend anyone because I have heard what he has done for the club, but sharing company secrets is just not acceptible. If falls under the same banner of insider trading so if the said person was in a bank they would probably not only be fired, but potentially prosecuted.
Think you are very unlikely to see Airman comment on this over the next few weeks.
And linking his name to 'sharing company secrets' when none of us yet know the real story is really not on.
What I am ITK about is employment law.
If, as it would appear from the above rumours, he has been dismissed for Gross Misconduct, then don't expect to hear anything from him while the legally required process is still underway. There will have to be a hearing which I assume will be on 28th September.
Employees can then also opt to take their employers to an independent employment tribunial on the ground of unfair dismissal. Think Mark McCammon and Gillingham and the amount of dirty laundry that got washed in public then.
Rick's a true and loyal supporter of the club, who although we have not met I have a considerable regard for.
Personally I think he has played a major part in supporting the club in so many ways.
Although I have at times had different views from him, I knew he had the clubs best interests at heart.
Tried to contact him last week, at the club. Thought it odd when he did not reply personally.......
:-)
But I soon learnt that if you were going to disagree with Rick then you better have a strong coherent arguement as he was sure to have that as well as a mountain of stats to back up what he said.
There will be a few Charlton fans celebrating that he has left, mainly those who can't see beyond their own extreame right wing views who never liked the fact the Club took an Anti-racist stance in part lead by Rick.
They would also ignore the long hours he spent building the fan base via the many ticket iniatives such a footballforafiver and Valley Express. He also lead the fight for affordable ticket prices to maximise income rather than the other option of high prices that we see at the likes of Ipswich. One reason our crowds have held up so well in the recent decline.
If the rumours of an orchestrated gross dismissal are true then the new board are shotting themsleves in the foot, losing yet another valuable staff member who had and has the long term interests of Charlton Atheltic Football Club and not his bank balance in his heart.
Good post Henry.
Interested what the gross misconduct is for assume relating to the tales of our financial woe on this site?
Shame.
P.S I take it that in the current tradition of the club there will not be a note in the programme paying tribute to RE for his invaluable services to CAFC, both as a supporter and an employee.