Staff have been gagged? I guess sport has been the only industry where this has not been the case as a matter of course. Where I used to work speaking with the media without prior permission was a sackable offence.
But a pretty obvious one. Do you think that Matt Wright, who was on here yesterday, wouldn't have wanted to write a story about this? That they didn't know it would be discovered and that people would speculate?
As someone who works in communications myself, I'm almost 100% certain they would have wanted to communicate on this. Ultimately it's not their call.
I think we need to be careful not to demonise the current owners on the basis that we have little information. Of course we'd all like more information, but in most business's do the customers know the ins and outs of the boardroom?
Evidence so far is that they have through their structure achieved a record breaking promotion in their first full season, give SCP the backing and support as required.
But a pretty obvious one. Do you think that Matt Wright, who was on here yesterday, wouldn't have wanted to write a story about this? That they didn't know it would be discovered and that people would speculate?
As someone who works in communications myself, I'm almost 100% certain they would have wanted to communicate on this. Ultimately it's not their call.
If the club honesty thought that someone would not find the change to the Directors page, then they must think we have the same mentality as Mensa finest down at SE16.
Sorry Bing I know most of the iKt people and they may have had info in the prem or pre takeover, but they don't have that relationship with the new board now, of that I'm sure.
But a pretty obvious one. Do you think that Matt Wright, who was on here yesterday, wouldn't have wanted to write a story about this? That they didn't know it would be discovered and that people would speculate?
As someone who works in communications myself, I'm almost 100% certain they would have wanted to communicate on this. Ultimately it's not their call.
If the club honesty thought that someone would not find the change to the Directors page, then they must think we have the same mentality as Mensa finest down at SE16.
That's exactly my point - of course they knew it would get out. Which is why I'm saying that they would have wanted to write a story about it.
I've always been of the opinion that Slater was a board representitive of one person/group and Jimenez a representitive of another person/group. Matters came to a head recently.Not sure why,but maybe it was over the shares that recently became available.A power struggle ensued with both persons/groups laying claim to the available shares.At one stage the person/group represented by Jimenez threatened to walk away,hence a possibility why the Spain friendly venue was changed. Eventually the person/group represented by Slater decided to concede these shares to the Jimenez person/group as they knew that, going forward, their(Jimenez) financial clout would be needed to get to where all persons/groups wanted to be. Now I think we all have a very good idea who at least one of the people represented by Slater is.And for that person to concede a large share of the club to the other party would suggest to me that Jimenez's people are considerably wealthier and also why he is so keen to keep a lid on who they actually are.
Just my opinion of course. Probably all ballcocks!
I've always been of the opinion that Slater was a board representitive of one person/group and Jimenez a representitive of another person/group. Matters came to a head recently.Not sure why,but maybe it was over the shares that recently became available.A power struggle ensued with both persons/groups laying claim to the available shares.At one stage the person/group represented by Jimenez threatened to walk away,hence a possibility why the Spain friendly venue was changed. Eventually the person/group represented by Slater decided to concede these shares to the Jimenez person/group as they knew that, going forward, their(Jimenez) financial clout would be needed to get to where all persons/groups wanted to be. Now I think we all have a very good idea who at least one of the people represented by Slater is.And for that person to concede a large share of the club to the other party would suggest to me that Jimenez's people are considerably wealthier and also why he is so keen to keep a lid on who they actually are.
Just my opinion of course. Probably all ballcocks!
That's a very, very optimistic interpretation. Unfortunately, i suspect you're right; it's almost certainly "all ballcocks"!!!!
I think we need to be careful not to demonise the current owners on the basis that we have little information. Of course we'd all like more information, but in most business's do the customers know the ins and outs of the boardroom?
Yes but surely theres a distinction between customers and a clubs supporters....or there should be.
From the very first moment this lot made the initial inquiry to possibly buy the club till now we've had a total black out on info about the power and financing structure. They have gone out of their way to maintain this water tight situation....and for me that shows a lack of respect and decency towards us. It also has the predictable result of unnerving the fan base and creates an atmosphere of tension and worry. What are they hiding? I'm not expecting them to spill their guts out cos thats unrealistic but something more than nowt would be a start.
...and before anyone says `oooo we won the league, what more do you want!' i'll say that's a completely different issue and irrelevent with regards to this `wall of silence' mentality our current owners blatantly possess.
It's been interesting reading on here for the last couple of weeks. Many are voicing concerns about whether our Board Members are to be trusted with our club, and whether certain parties are "football people" or not. Would we be happier with owners who run Charlton with their heads or with their hearts? I personally prefer our club have sound business people at the helm rather than so-called "fans" who may tend to look for a quick popular "fix" rather than long-term growth and stability.
Funny isn't it. Chairmen can't win. If they come and speak to the media at every opportunity like Dave Whelan they get slated. If they keep a low profile they still get stick.
Is your need to know this greater than CAFC's need to sign players at value for money prices? Nothing can bea s bad as the 3 or 4 years prior to last season of being transparantly desperate.
It's funny how the rumours are only on here ask the average Charlton fan on the street about the board room and they know nothing.People on here tell a few CAFC fans and then only about 1,000 know the rumours.
As to whether TJ is a football man - well, I can only go on the evidence so far, in that he has played a prominent role in our most successful season for yonks. I think that we should maybe give the fella the benefit of the doubt. However, like everyone else, I have my fingers crossed that we won't see a disgruntled CP and that both individuals work together rather than being in competition to influence day to day squad matters as however it worked last season, it definitely worked.
As for the shareholding changes, could it be as simple as TJ buying out the share of a backer who has pulled out by borrowing money from another? It may be that the extra dosh covers the day to day running of the club for the season but leaves little else for extra squad investment. Unless we see more inward movement into the squad in the next few weeks, then I suspect that this may well be the most likely scenario.
Another thing, I am a bit confused as to why MS would still be about if, as we suspect, he is a representative for a certain wealthy individual who may have pulled out of the club and taken his dosh with him. That wouldn't add up to me....confusing isn't the word!
I think the only thing to be done is to try and stay positive, give the management and board our support and see what happens.
sorry still don't get you, not sure if you are agreeing or disagreeing.
I just think many find it difficult to trust a group of people with our club who are shady, incommuncative, evidently not fans of the club, and have a reputation as wheeler dealers, and therefore who's intention is unclear with the future of something we all care deeply about.
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As someone who works in communications myself, I'm almost 100% certain they would have wanted to communicate on this. Ultimately it's not their call.
'starting to look like he has' - based on what exactly? Literally nothing?
Now I think we all have a very good idea who at least one of the people represented by Slater is.And for that person to concede a large share of the club to the other party would suggest to me that Jimenez's people are considerably wealthier and also why he is so keen to keep a lid on who they actually are.
Just my opinion of course. Probably all ballcocks!
From the very first moment this lot made the initial inquiry to possibly buy the club till now we've had a total black out on info about the power and financing structure. They have gone out of their way to maintain this water tight situation....and for me that shows a lack of respect and decency towards us. It also has the predictable result of unnerving the fan base and creates an atmosphere of tension and worry. What are they hiding?
I'm not expecting them to spill their guts out cos thats unrealistic but something more than nowt would be a start.
...and before anyone says `oooo we won the league, what more do you want!' i'll say that's a completely different issue and irrelevent with regards to this `wall of silence' mentality our current owners blatantly possess.
This is my view entirely.
As to whether TJ is a football man - well, I can only go on the evidence so far, in that he has played a prominent role in our most successful season for yonks. I think that we should maybe give the fella the benefit of the doubt. However, like everyone else, I have my fingers crossed that we won't see a disgruntled CP and that both individuals work together rather than being in competition to influence day to day squad matters as however it worked last season, it definitely worked.
As for the shareholding changes, could it be as simple as TJ buying out the share of a backer who has pulled out by borrowing money from another? It may be that the extra dosh covers the day to day running of the club for the season but leaves little else for extra squad investment. Unless we see more inward movement into the squad in the next few weeks, then I suspect that this may well be the most likely scenario.
Another thing, I am a bit confused as to why MS would still be about if, as we suspect, he is a representative for a certain wealthy individual who may have pulled out of the club and taken his dosh with him. That wouldn't add up to me....confusing isn't the word!
I think the only thing to be done is to try and stay positive, give the management and board our support and see what happens.
when their motives and intentions are unclear?
sorry I don't get you?
I just think many find it difficult to trust a group of people with our club who are shady, incommuncative, evidently not fans of the club, and have a reputation as wheeler dealers, and therefore who's intention is unclear with the future of something we all care deeply about.
That's what this is all about, isn't it?