Look some of you lot need to seriously wake up and understand that the famous five as u put it tried and failed to tell you things ain't Rosey it's up to you to understand that and I will speak as I find and for myself
I never would say feck all anti Charlton I would slate a mgr or a performance and say it how I see it
But where the club is concerned it would be as positive as I can
But the money I was told was coming hasn't or enough hasn't
We are in serious shit I told you it was frightening and it is
If we make it to the start of the season without being in admin I will be amazed
We need to do it as soon as possible and move the club forward as there are serious money issues and unless someone puts their own money in we are fucked well and truly
Flying kiwi why don't you say what you know you think people are being critics vague then tell me what you know
I have told you what I Do just not who told me as tbh it has nothing to do with you who told me
But I was right I never lie and I didn't wait as long as some of you want but unless money comes in we will need to go into admin to survive this pre season
Look some of you lot need to seriously wake up and understand that the famous five as u put it tried and failed to tell you things ain't Rosey it's up to you to understand that and I will speak as I find and for myself
I never would say feck all anti Charlton I would slate a mgr or a performance and say it how I see it
But where the club is concerned it would be as positive as I can
But the money I was told was coming hasn't or enough hasn't
We are in serious shit I told you it was frightening and it is
If we make it to the start of the season without being in admin I will be amazed
We need to do it as soon as possible and move the club forward as there are serious money issues and unless someone puts their own money in we are fucked well and truly
Flying kiwi why don't you say what you know you think people are being critics vague then tell me what you know
I have told you what I Do just not who told me as tbh it has nothing to do with you who told me
But I was right I never lie and I didn't wait as long as some of you want but unless money comes in we will need to go into admin to survive this pre season
Wake up FFs we are in trouble
You can lead a horse t
I only know what I have read on these forums and if even a small amount of what is posted is true it is very worrying indeed!
It's ok to have a pop for saying it how it is but someone tell me why what has been said Is bollox
Thing is mate nothing has been said officially that there is a problem.Until there is,and I'm sure if you're right,it won't be long,people can start to get their heads round it.
How big can the hole be though? It can't be so big that selling Kermo, Solly and Wiggins wouldn't cover it?
From my (limited) understanding of our board structure....TJ and MS are just faces for the front man and whilst rich by man in the streets standards their collective wealth wouldnt fund a club without the huge investment we were receiving from their backer.
If how ive read it the backer is off down the road now I cant see how a couple of million quid would go far. Clubs would sense we were up shit creek by trying desperately to offload our best players so will offer a fraction of what they are worth and even if we did get full value that cash would just make a small dent in the running costs of a club and paying wages of playing and non playing staff.
That's before acknowledging that the majority owners probably would bail and count their losses rather than hanging round to see their money leaking away just trying to stand still. Murray and PV stayed when it hit the fan years back but they were sworn addicks. Different ball game now.
To be fair, I'm not sure that many people are having a pop. It's just that, for those who have no internal contacts (especially at board level), all this deeply worrying information seems very much at odds with what we see in terms of actual events -- appointment of numerous youth team coaches and Mr Prothero, for example. It's all quite confusing and very, very disturbing.
If things are as bad as people are saying and its being talked about in some pubs its only a matter of time before the newspapers get hold of thr rumours.
Is there anything we as fans can do collectively to rectify/ benefit the situation or is it a case of just sitting and watching it all unravel?
In the short term, I fear that's all we can do. In the medium - long term we can try to form a Supporters Trust that gains us access to the boardroom and participation in financial decision - making. Not a great answer, sorry.
The situation seems dire as it is - I don't get why some people are trying to make it worse by infighting and accusations of 'scaremongering' etc. To me there could be the reason could be:
1) These people genuinely think that airman and prague are on a wind up, which to my mind is just ridiculous
2) They don't realize that everyone who has contributed on here has done as much as they can while obviously trying to protect their own jobs or those of their sources
3) The urge to reject negative news is so strong that all logic and reason is abandoned and those contributing are called 'scaremongerers'
4) As plaayer mentioned, these people are in with the board/have a personal agenda as to why they would like to prolong the infighting instead of paying heed to prague's suggestions of organizing as a unit
As carly burn said, I'm waiting to hear SCP's next comment - if it sounds like he's sticking around then most of us would heave a huge sigh of relief, at least in the short term.
1) Did PV walk because he was unhappy with the goings on, did he walk as that was always the plan or was he pushed? 2) Are we really looking at going into administration if things stay as they are? 3) Who or what is the biggest issue at the moment and is putting us in this position? 4) Why have we made so many appointments to our backroom staff and academy staff if we are in such a state of uncertainty? 5) How likely is CP to walk if things stay as they are?
Is there anything we as fans can do collectively to rectify/ benefit the situation or is it a case of just sitting and watching it all unravel?
In the short term, I fear that's all we can do. In the medium - long term we can try to form a Supporters Trust that gains us access to the boardroom and participation in financial decision - making. Not a great answer, sorry.
FFS. All of you stop sniping at each other. Kiwi, NSS, Rothko. Mike, the lot of you.
It does nothing to help and its energy being wasted on the wrong target.
It seems that on Monday some money went in but only enough to ease the immediate problem not solve the problem.
So;
Either you are part of the solution or you are part of the problem.
So stop blaming and start thinking about what YOU are going to contribute, be that time, skills, money, connections or all four.
mmm but did that money come from RM yet again or did it come from the spivs who appear to have built a house on sand like all the other spivs who screwed up Ranger, Pompey, Darlo et al?
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I never would say feck all anti Charlton I would slate a mgr or a performance and say it how I see it
But where the club is concerned it would be as positive as I can
But the money I was told was coming hasn't or enough hasn't
We are in serious shit I told you it was frightening and it is
If we make it to the start of the season without being in admin I will be amazed
We need to do it as soon as possible and move the club forward as there are serious money issues and unless someone puts their own money in we are fucked well and truly
Flying kiwi why don't you say what you know you think people are being critics vague then tell me what you know
I have told you what I Do just not who told me as tbh it has nothing to do with you who told me
But I was right I never lie and I didn't wait as long as some of you want but unless money comes in we will need to go into admin to survive this pre season
Wake up FFs we are in trouble
You can lead a horse t
It's ok to have a pop for saying it how it is but someone tell me why what has been said Is bollox
Bwp Solly and the likes we could get through but when people know your skint they take the piss
If how ive read it the backer is off down the road now I cant see how a couple of million quid would go far. Clubs would sense we were up shit creek by trying desperately to offload our best players so will offer a fraction of what they are worth and even if we did get full value that cash would just make a small dent in the running costs of a club and paying wages of playing and non playing staff.
That's before acknowledging that the majority owners probably would bail and count their losses rather than hanging round to see their money leaking away just trying to stand still. Murray and PV stayed when it hit the fan years back but they were sworn addicks. Different ball game now.
To be fair, I'm not sure that many people are having a pop. It's just that, for those who have no internal contacts (especially at board level), all this deeply worrying information seems very much at odds with what we see in terms of actual events -- appointment of numerous youth team coaches and Mr Prothero, for example. It's all quite confusing and very, very disturbing.
It does nothing to help and its energy being wasted on the wrong target.
It seems that on Monday some money went in but only enough to ease the immediate problem not solve the problem.
So;
Either you are part of the solution or you are part of the problem.
So stop blaming and start thinking about what YOU are going to contribute, be that time, skills, money, connections or all four.
1) These people genuinely think that airman and prague are on a wind up, which to my mind is just ridiculous
2) They don't realize that everyone who has contributed on here has done as much as they can while obviously trying to protect their own jobs or those of their sources
3) The urge to reject negative news is so strong that all logic and reason is abandoned and those contributing are called 'scaremongerers'
4) As plaayer mentioned, these people are in with the board/have a personal agenda as to why they would like to prolong the infighting instead of paying heed to prague's suggestions of organizing as a unit
As carly burn said, I'm waiting to hear SCP's next comment - if it sounds like he's sticking around then most of us would heave a huge sigh of relief, at least in the short term.
1) Did PV walk because he was unhappy with the goings on, did he walk as that was always the plan or was he pushed?
2) Are we really looking at going into administration if things stay as they are?
3) Who or what is the biggest issue at the moment and is putting us in this position?
4) Why have we made so many appointments to our backroom staff and academy staff if we are in such a state of uncertainty?
5) How likely is CP to walk if things stay as they are?
Thanks
Only at Charlton. Henry chill que sera sera.
But it's about time things moved forward now and we need help
It needs to come from within