Instant reaction to a nasty challenge - both should have gone - Whether the tackle was clumsy or not - you can't go around trying to break opponents jaws - ref bottled the decision and rewarded the perpetrator. Dailly needed another 10 seconds to calm down - but who can honestly say they would control themselves if they were in his shoes?
[cite]Posted By: grumpyaddick[/cite]And so it came to pass that Saint Christopher of Powellshire, the chosen one of the Lord (Curbs) said unto his disciples...
"And when thou art provoked by the acts Oldham, turn the other cheek so you will all feel the comfort of clean sheets once more"
But one old Christian heeded not Saint Christopher's wise words for he had already had one cheek broken this season.
So he stuck his boot right in the crown jewells of Oldham and was sacrificed by the blind Pharisee in black robes.
For verily I say unto you.."it is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle than for Charlton to get 3 points away from home".
[cite]Posted By: Henry Irving[/cite]"I come not to bring peace, but to bring a sword"
No surprise there then!
[cite]Posted By: Oggy Red[/cite]
[cite]Posted By: incorruptible addick[/cite]
I try to live mine (not always successfully) by the words in Matthew 5:39 : ''If someone strikes you on the right cheek, turn to him the other also” .
Etc......
Incorruptible, you give the impression the impression that you know far more about music, than you know about playing football.
Oggster, you give the impression (the impression) of being an enthusiastic ingenue on both topics! How are you on Bible studies?
[cite]Posted By: Dazzler21[/cite]. You sir have been corrupt by religion.
Dazzler, I love a good oxymoron! There's nothing I would rather be corrupted by than the desire to live one's life according to a code of ethics.
Bless you and may the spirit of Citizen Chris go with you in one of our manager's personal favourite passages from scripture, the 23rd psalm:
''Yea, though I walk through THE VALLEY of the shadow of death,
I will fear no evil: For thou art with me;
Thy rod and thy staff, they comfort me.
Thou preparest a table before me in the presence of mine enemies;
Thou annointest my head with oil; My cup runneth over.''
Let's pray for promotion to championship heaven next year. Keep the faith !
Oldham player should have walked too, was a wreckless high leg. I'd have probably reacted the same if I were Dailly, could have taken his eye out with his tackle.
[cite]Posted By: Henry Irving[/cite]"I come not to bring peace, but to bring a sword"
No surprise there then!
[cite]Posted By: Oggy Red[/cite]
[cite]Posted By: incorruptible addick[/cite]
I try to live mine (not always successfully) by the words in Matthew 5:39 : ''If someone strikes you on the right cheek, turn to him the other also” .
Etc......
Incorruptible, you give the impression the impression that you know far more about music, than you know about playing football.
Oggster, you give the impression (the impression) of being an enthusiastic ingenue on both topics! How are you on Bible studies?
[cite]Posted By: Dazzler21[/cite]. You sir have been corrupt by religion.
Dazzler, I love a good oxymoron! There's nothing I would rather be corrupted by than the desire to live one's life according to a code of ethics.
Bless you and may the spirit of Citizen Chris go with you in one of our manager's personal favourite passages from scripture, the 23rd psalm:
''Yea, though I walk throughTHE VALLEYof the shadow of death,
I will fear no evil: For thou art with me;
Thy rod and thy staff, they comfort me.
Thou preparest a table before me in the presence of mine enemies;
Thou annointest my head with oil; My cup runneth over.''
Let's pray for promotion to championship heaven next year. Keep the faith !
Oh dear.. Insufferable so pompous as Curb-it said but completely missed (or ignored) the quote from the Crossmaker that refers to Him bringing violence, not peace.
[cite]Posted By: Henry Irving[/cite]"I come not to bring peace, but to bring a sword"
Good old Henry. He loves to take a quote completely out of context in order to belittle beliefs and posters he disagrees with!
There is a certain irony that the man who is in the vanguard of shouting "SOURCE" when a controversial assertion is made failed to give his source for his quotation.
Well Henry I'll do it for you: The Gospel of St Matthew Chapter 10 verse 34. Jesus is speaking to his disciples and essentially telling them that following Him and God is no easy option and that they will be persecuted by others and suffer inner conflicts themselves, hence ...."I come not to bring peace, but to bring a sword" ...., an easily understandable metaphor for the uneducated, illiterate fishermen etc who who made up the majority of his disciples, but the rewards will be worth all the turmoil. Chapter 10 has 42 verses and if one reads that it is obvious that Jesus is in no way advocating violence despite Henry's cynical distortion above and quoted below.
....."Oh dear.. Insufferable so pompous as Curb-it said but completely missed (or ignored) the quote from the Crossmaker that refers to Him bringing violence, not peace.".......
[cite]Posted By: Henry Irving[/cite]"I come not to bring peace, but to bring a sword"
Good old Henry. He loves to take a quote completely out of context in order to belittle beliefs and posters he disagrees with!
There is a certain irony that the man who is in the vanguard of shouting "SOURCE" when a controversial assertion is made failed to give his source for his quotation.
Well Henry I'll do it for you: The Gospel of St Matthew Chapter 10 verse 34. Jesus is speaking to his disciples and essentially telling them that following Him and God is no easy option and that they will be persecuted by others and suffer inner conflicts themselves, hence ...."I come not to bring peace, but to bring a sword" ...., an easily understandable metaphor for the uneducated, illiterate fishermen etc who who made up the majority of his disciples, but the rewards will be worth all the turmoil. Chapter 10 has 42 verses and if one reads that it is obvious that Jesus is in no way advocating violence despite Henry's cynical distortion.
Rubbish Len, total rubbish.
The "source" was obvious to you and to anyone who so readily quoted the bible because as you say it is a well known quote. Insufferable Nigel either didn't know it or chose to ignore it because it didn't suit his pathetic arguement that Dailly should act like Christ on the the football pitch. The only one belittling the Christian religion was Nigel with his pompous and self-rightous stance about a tackle in a football match.
As for the quote in context
""Do not think that I came to bring peace on the earth; I did not come to bring peace, but a sword. For I came to set a man against his father, and a daughter against her mother, and a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law; and a man’s enemies will be the members of his household. He who loves father or mother more than Me is not worthy of Me; and he who loves son or daughter more than Me is not worthy of Me. And he who does not take his cross and follow after Me is not worthy of Me. He who has found his life will lose it, and he who has lost his life for My sake will find it." (Matthew 10:34-39 NASB)"
We can trade quotes all day about God the peacemaker and the God of vengeance and wrath. You know full well that the bible has and still is used to justify just about anything the person wants to justify from war, pacifism, burning so called witches, slavery, banning homosexuals, liberation theology, socialism, non-violence, charity, forgiveness and is used by politicians of every hue to justify themselves.
And now even retaliation on the football pitch FFS
Len, you've got the wrong target. The only person belittling religion and quoting out of context was another Christian, Nigel the Insufferable.
My point is simply that Jesus was not advocating violence which you both implied and expressed. Unfortunately my edit to my post evidently crossed with your quoting of my post hence it is not as clear as now.
As for Nigel he is a journalist and they have a natural tendency towards hyperbole and over dramatisation. It goes with the territory. The bottom line is that he thinks Dailly was unprofessional which is an opinion he is entitled to without personal attacks from all and sundry.
He is controversial and, for the record, I think his stance towards Daiily is harsh, but always worth reading and others say equally controversial things on here without censure and a platoon of "Forum Police" belittling them.
Dailly's kick was red mist after being kicked in the face.
If you were born in the Middle East you probably would be a muslim (even you Henry)
If you had just had a pretty poor season and were very frustrated you might kick someone who studded you in the face (even me a bleeding heart, leftie, add your own thing for whatever people think who disagree with you are).
Some people just love an argument. I know bugger all about religion so i can't really join in but religion does seem outdated and illogical and seems to be the cause of most wars. Is that enough to get me in on the argument?
[cite]Posted By: Robert[/cite]Jeez, why people still belueve in religion in this day and age is madness, as is quoting the bible on a football forum...
Grow up and learn to think for yourself...
On daily...he shoulnt have kicked out, but these things happen in the heat of the moment...
He i feel we should keep him as his experience will be vital
You grow up. Let people believe in what they believe in if they gain comfort from it. Who are you to tell people what to do? God?
Tho i stand by quoting the bible on a football forum is a load of old guff.
[cite]Posted By: Henry Irving[/cite]"I come not to bring peace, but to bring a sword"
There is a certain irony that the man who is in the vanguard of shouting "SOURCE" when a controversial assertion is made failed to give his source for his quotation.
Yah gotta love CL haven't you - the only football fourm where a thread starting on the merits of an aging centre half ends up in a theological discussion.
No curb_it, i am a voice of reason...there is no evidence to suggest such mythical creatures such as god exist...
As someone mentioned before, for a lot of people its believung in what their parents told them and accepting it as fact...(its like believing in father christmas - quite clearly not true...like religi
these people need to open up their minds an looke at scientific fact
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I enjoyed that, well done!
No surprise there then!
Oggster, you give the impression (the impression) of being an enthusiastic ingenue on both topics! How are you on Bible studies?
Dazzler, I love a good oxymoron! There's nothing I would rather be corrupted by than the desire to live one's life according to a code of ethics.
Bless you and may the spirit of Citizen Chris go with you in one of our manager's personal favourite passages from scripture, the 23rd psalm:
''Yea, though I walk through THE VALLEY of the shadow of death,
I will fear no evil: For thou art with me;
Thy rod and thy staff, they comfort me.
Thou preparest a table before me in the presence of mine enemies;
Thou annointest my head with oil; My cup runneth over.''
Let's pray for promotion to championship heaven next year. Keep the faith !
Oh dear.. Insufferable so pompous as Curb-it said but completely missed (or ignored) the quote from the Crossmaker that refers to Him bringing violence, not peace.
Whoooooooooooosh
Good old Henry. He loves to take a quote completely out of context in order to belittle beliefs and posters he disagrees with!
There is a certain irony that the man who is in the vanguard of shouting "SOURCE" when a controversial assertion is made failed to give his source for his quotation.
Well Henry I'll do it for you: The Gospel of St Matthew Chapter 10 verse 34. Jesus is speaking to his disciples and essentially telling them that following Him and God is no easy option and that they will be persecuted by others and suffer inner conflicts themselves, hence ...."I come not to bring peace, but to bring a sword" ...., an easily understandable metaphor for the uneducated, illiterate fishermen etc who who made up the majority of his disciples, but the rewards will be worth all the turmoil. Chapter 10 has 42 verses and if one reads that it is obvious that Jesus is in no way advocating violence despite Henry's cynical distortion above and quoted below.
....."Oh dear.. Insufferable so pompous as Curb-it said but completely missed (or ignored) the quote from the Crossmaker that refers to Him bringing violence, not peace.".......
Rubbish Len, total rubbish.
The "source" was obvious to you and to anyone who so readily quoted the bible because as you say it is a well known quote. Insufferable Nigel either didn't know it or chose to ignore it because it didn't suit his pathetic arguement that Dailly should act like Christ on the the football pitch. The only one belittling the Christian religion was Nigel with his pompous and self-rightous stance about a tackle in a football match.
As for the quote in context
""Do not think that I came to bring peace on the earth; I did not come to bring peace, but a sword. For I came to set a man against his father, and a daughter against her mother, and a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law; and a man’s enemies will be the members of his household. He who loves father or mother more than Me is not worthy of Me; and he who loves son or daughter more than Me is not worthy of Me. And he who does not take his cross and follow after Me is not worthy of Me. He who has found his life will lose it, and he who has lost his life for My sake will find it." (Matthew 10:34-39 NASB)"
We can trade quotes all day about God the peacemaker and the God of vengeance and wrath. You know full well that the bible has and still is used to justify just about anything the person wants to justify from war, pacifism, burning so called witches, slavery, banning homosexuals, liberation theology, socialism, non-violence, charity, forgiveness and is used by politicians of every hue to justify themselves.
And now even retaliation on the football pitch FFS
Len, you've got the wrong target. The only person belittling religion and quoting out of context was another Christian, Nigel the Insufferable.
As for Nigel he is a journalist and they have a natural tendency towards hyperbole and over dramatisation. It goes with the territory. The bottom line is that he thinks Dailly was unprofessional which is an opinion he is entitled to without personal attacks from all and sundry.
He is controversial and, for the record, I think his stance towards Daiily is harsh, but always worth reading and others say equally controversial things on here without censure and a platoon of "Forum Police" belittling them.
My grandfather was a hindu so
I've got more gods than you,
I've got more gods than you,
etc,.
Grow up and learn to think for yourself...
On daily...he shoulnt have kicked out, but these things happen in the heat of the moment...
He i feel we should keep him as his experience will be vital
Dailly's kick was red mist after being kicked in the face.
If you were born in the Middle East you probably would be a muslim (even you Henry)
If you had just had a pretty poor season and were very frustrated you might kick someone who studded you in the face (even me a bleeding heart, leftie, add your own thing for whatever people think who disagree with you are).
Why are you all arguing?
You grow up. Let people believe in what they believe in if they gain comfort from it. Who are you to tell people what to do? God?
Tho i stand by quoting the bible on a football forum is a load of old guff.
I shout that when served chips
As someone mentioned before, for a lot of people its believung in what their parents told them and accepting it as fact...(its like believing in father christmas - quite clearly not true...like religi
these people need to open up their minds an looke at scientific fact
Father Christmas is Large. FACT!