It's weird, considering that Arsenal have been famous in the last 20 years for playing great football but being a bit "soft" that we've loaned 3 really good defensive midfielders from them, in Song, Coquelin and Bielik!
It's weird, considering that Arsenal have been famous in the last 20 years for playing great football but being a bit "soft" that we've loaned 3 really good defensive midfielders from them, in Song, Coquelin and Bielik!
It's weird, considering that Arsenal have been famous in the last 20 years for playing great football but being a bit "soft" that we've loaned 3 really good defensive midfielders from them, in Song, Coquelin and Bielik!
GK John Vaughan , RB Chris Wilder , LB Alex Dyer , CB Steve Thompson , CB Bill Dodgin snr , RM Neil Redfearn , CM George Shipley , CM Dennis Booth , LM Cameron Stewart , ST Jason Lee , ST Steve White .
Other connections Simeon Hodson , Lyndsay Smith ,Shane
Westley, Ray Harford , Dean Chandler , David Campbell , Dennis Wilson ,Mark
Mccamon , Dennis Bailey and Dany N'Guessen .
Is your information pulled from memory? I tried to do this the other day with my Posh supporting mate, got no more than five or six connections.
It started from memory but I check Wikipedia who list players who played for each club. I include loanees.
Peterborough is a club where you can do the exercise. GK Willie Duff, RB Lawrie Wilson, LB Alan Kimble, CB Phil Chapple, CB Grant Basey, RM Erhun Oztumer, CM Andrew Crofts, CM Dick Tydeman, LM Colin Walsh, ST Leon McKenzie ST Jason Lee.
I can improve Grimsby after Fanewo's signing . It looks more balanced now although a couple of players are slightly out of their natural positions .
GK Charlie Wright , RB Simon Francis , LB Danny Butterfield , CB Andy Todd , CB Akin Fanewo , RM Bryan Hughes , CM Andy Peake , CM Dean Sinclair , LM Jack Pugsley , ST Clive Mendonca , ST Matt Tees .
GK Nick Pope ,
RB Luke Young , LB Chris Powell , CB Danny Mills , CB Derek Ufton , RM Robert
Lee , CM Mike Bailey , CM Scott Parker , CM Lee Bowyer LM John Barnes , ST Darren Bent
Republic of
Ireland
4 5 1
GK Dean
Kiely,RB Kevin Foley ,LB Theo Foley,CB Gary Doherty CB,Alan Kernaghan,RM Aiden McGeady , CMJosh Cullen ,Mark Kinsella,Matt HollandLMAndy Reid ST Ray Treacy
Scottish Charlton
Charlie Wright , John
Hewie , Mark Reid , Alan Campbell , Joe McLaughlin , Christian Dailly ,Andrew
Shinnie, Jim Melrose , Chris Iwelumo , Colin Walsh . Chris Duffy
Welsh Charlton
John Phillips ,Adam
Matthews ,Mark Bowen , Mark Aizlewood , Chris Gunter , Leighton Phillips
,John Robinson Johnny Williams , Graham Moore , Dai Astley, Carl Harris
Liam Milllar 's signing means Nathan Eccleston is out of the Liverpool 11 .
GK Scott Carason, RB Frank Lock , LB Paul Konchesy , CB Joe Gomez , CB Djimi Traore , RM Liam Millar , CM Danny Murphy , CM Johnjo Shelvey , LM John Barnes , ST John Evans , Paul Walsh
Liam Milllar 's signing means Nathan Eccleston is out of the Liverpool 11 .
GK Scott Carason, RB Frank Lock , LB Paul Konchesy , CB Joe Gomez , CB Djimi Traore , RM Liam Millar , CM Danny Murphy , CM Johnjo Shelvey , LM John Barnes , ST John Evans , Paul Walsh
Do we have anyone other than Djimi Traore who can play Centre-Back? - Eccleston maybe?
Liam Milllar 's signing means Nathan Eccleston is out of the Liverpool 11 .
GK Scott Carason, RB Frank Lock , LB Paul Konchesy , CB Joe Gomez , CB Djimi Traore , RM Liam Millar , CM Danny Murphy , CM Johnjo Shelvey , LM John Barnes , ST John Evans , Paul Walsh
Do we have anyone other than Djimi Traore who can play Centre-Back? - Eccleston maybe?
I would have put Diarra there but he never actually played in the Liverpool first team and spent the whole of his three year spell there on loan .
Now Dr Kish has finished I will update regularly here again .
After posts above I discovered that Cambridge had many mutual connections in the 1950's which dramatically improve the team .
The central midfield partnership which won the FA Cup Final Bert Johnson and William Whittacker were both player managers at the Abbey Stadium in the 1950's Jock Campbell and Frank Lock also played there in this era .
GK Nick Pope , RB Jock Campbell , LB Frank Lock , CB Michael Morrison , CB Garry Rowett , RM Tony Towner , CM Bert Johnson , CM William Whittacker , LM Martin Robinson , ST Mike Flanagan , ST Karlan Grant .
Crawley is another team influenced by their non league heritage .
GK Ben Hamer , RB Marvin Hinton , LB Kelly Youga , CB Richard Wood , CB Colin Pates , RM Tony Towner , CM Josh Wright , CM Peter O'Sullivan , LM John Robinson , ST Billy Clarke , ST Karlan Grant
There are lots of options but I have decided to go 4 5 1 and base the spine of this selection on the 1980/81 Charlton promotion team . I include 6 players from that side . I could have picked a 7th but Martin Robinson misses out to his namesake John.
GK Darren Randolph , RB John Humphrey . LB Paul Konchesky , CB Les Berry , CB Peter Shaw , RM Colin Powell , CM Dick Tydeman , CM Phil Walker . LM John Robinson , AM Gavin Peacock , ST Derek Hales
I posted these previously on Dr Kish which is no longer available .
Leeds : GK Scott Carson , RB Danny Mills , LB Mark Aizlewood , CB Jason Pearce , CB Chris Whyte , RM Carl Harris , CM Radistan Kisichiev , CM Lee Bowyer , LM Jerome Thomas , ST Jimmy Floyd Hasselbaink , ST Jim Melrose .
Subs : Ben Alnwick , Frazer Richardson , Sam Sodje , Andy Hughes , Lloyd Sam , Rob Hulse , John Pearson
Wolves : GK Carl Ikeme , RB John Humphrey , LB Lawrie Madden , CB Peter Shirtliff , CB Roger Johnson , RM Shaun Newton , CM Mike Bailey , CM Emmanuel Frimpong , LM Michal Zyro , ST Ray Crawford , ST Jim Melrose
Subs : Noel Dwyer , Kevin Foley , John Pender , Greg Halford , Cliff Durant , Chris Iwelumo , Jay Bothroyd
Grimsby has improved again with our new signing Diallang Jaiyesmi . Additionally Billy Clarke moved to Blundell Park last season so !930's legend left sider Welsh International Jack Pugsley can now fill in at left back . I will stick with the Mendonca / Tees combination up front ignoring the claims of Omar Bogle .
GK Charlie Wright , RB Simon Francis , LB Jack Pugsley , CB Andy Todd , CB Akin Fanewo , RM Diallang Jaiyesmi , CM Bryan Hughes , CM Andy Peake , LM Billy Clarke , ST Clive Mendonca , ST Matt Tees .
Nottingham Forest improved this season with Gunter , Taylor (sorry) and Watson . Arter would only make the bench .
GK Stephen Henderson , RB Chris Gunter , LB Paul Konchesky , CB Jack Oates , CB Carl Tiler , RM Johnny Williams , CM Ben Watson , CM Andy Reid , LM Colin Walsh , ST Sailor Brown , ST Lyle Taylor .
Subs Paul Smith ( ex CAFC Youth player ) , Carl Jenkinson , Greg Halford , Michael Stewart , Harry Arter , Chris Bart Williams , Marcus Tudgay .
Marcus Maddison improves Peterborough ( based mainly on his form at Posh )
GK Willie Duff, RB Lawrie Wilson, LB Alan Kimble, CB Phil Chapple, CB Grant Basey, RM Marcus Maddison, CM Andrew Crofts, CM Dick Tydeman, LM Colin Walsh, ST Leon McKenzie ST Jason Lee.
He scrapes into the Hull side as well . I choose to move Dyer to the back where he played in his latter career over historic player John Vickers .
GK Ben Amos ,
RB Danny Mills ,LB Alex Dyer , CB Leon Cort , CB Norman Neilson, RM Cameron
Stewart , CM Dennis Booth , CM Bryan Hughes , LM Marcus Maddison , ST John Pearson ,
ST Martyn Waghorn.
He wouldn't make the Bolton team however and has to be content with a place on the bench . Before people complain he gets the slot in front of Marcus Alonso or Joe Doodo .
This would be 4 5 1
GK Charlie Wright , RB Don McAllister , LB Anthony Barness , CB Tal Ben Haim , CB Mark Fish , DM Josh Cullen , DM Darren Pratley , AMR Chris Eagles , AMC Claus Jensen , AML John Salako , ST Marvin Sordell .
Subs Ben Amos , Andy Todd , Alan Kernaghan , Neil Redfearn , Marcus Maddison , Josh Magennis , Ricardo Vaz Te
Could have Conor Washington in that Peterborough team, or Erhun Oztumer?
Indeed we could.
Marcus was exceptional for Posh which is why I picked him. I try to select the teams based on how they played for one of the clubs.
I didn't put a bench for Posh because there were not enough defensive players to make it realistic.
We could also have selected Alnwick or Amos in goal.
The back four picks itself. Personally I always preferred Grant as a left footed centre back although I suspect pace would be an issue if paired with Chapple.
David Petrucci, Hogan Ephraim, Gary Kimble, Scott Houghton and Ricky Otto were options in midfield as well as Ozzi. I don't think any Addick would argue with Tydeman or Walsh's inclusion and I felt Crofts was better than those listed above.
Up front I selected Lee and McKenzie as they played together successfully for Posh. As well as Connor I could have picked Nicky Ajose, Bradley Allen, Omar Bogle, Scott McLeish, Izale McLeod, Jonathan Obika and Mike Small.
Could have Conor Washington in that Peterborough team, or Erhun Oztumer?
Indeed we could.
Marcus was exceptional for Posh which is why I picked him. I try to select the teams based on how they played for one of the clubs.
I didn't put a bench for Posh because there were not enough defensive players to make it realistic.
We could also have selected Alnwick or Amos in goal.
The back four picks itself. Personally I always preferred Grant as a left footed centre back although I suspect pace would be an issue if paired with Chapple.
David Petrucci, Hogan Ephraim, Gary Kimble, Scott Houghton and Ricky Otto were options in midfield as well as Ozzi. I don't think any Addick would argue with Tydeman or Walsh's inclusion and I felt Crofts was better than those listed above.
Up front I selected Lee and McKenzie as they played together successfully for Posh. As well as Connor I could have picked Nicky Ajose, Bradley Allen, Omar Bogle, Scott McLeish, Izale McLeod, Jonathan Obika and Mike Small.
Cheers, good few I didnt realise / forgot played for them there
Brighton GK Ben Roberts RB John Humphrey LB Steve Gatting , CB Les Berry , CB Colin Pates , RM John Robinson , CM Alan Curbishley , CM Dale Stephens LM Peter O'Sullivan , ST Darren Bent ST Garry Nelson
Palace GK Thomas Myrhe , RB John Humphrey , LB Chris Powell , CB Leon Cort , CB Herman Hreidarsson , RM Johnny Williams , CM Ben Watson , CM Joe Ledley , LM John Salako , ST Mark Bright , ST Mike Flanagan
Subs : Tony Burns , Darren Pitcher , Chris Whyte , Darren Ambrose , Paul Mortimer , David Whyte , Paul Williams
Brighton GK Ben Roberts RB John Humphrey LB Steve Gatting , CB Les Berry , CB Colin Pates , RM John Robinson , CM Alan Curbishley , CM Dale Stephens LM Peter O'Sullivan , ST Darren Bent ST Garry Nelson
Palace GK Thomas Myrhe , RB John Humphrey , LB Colin Powell , CB Leon Cort , CB Herman Hreidarsson , RM Johnny Williams , CM Ben Watson , CM Joe Ledley , LM John Salako , ST Mark Bright , ST Mike Flanagan
Subs : Tony Burns , Darren Pitcher , Chris Whyte , Darren Ambrose , Paul Mortimer , David Whyte , Paul Williams
Ahem, Chris Powell!
Harsh to leave Pardew out of the 18, I suppose it would be between him and Ambrose on the bench but to me he pips Ambrose due to that FA Cup semi final winner, and for having managed both clubs
You could also make a strong case for leaving Ledley out, due to the brevity, hopelessness and pointlessness of his Charlton career
Brighton GK Ben Roberts RB John Humphrey LB Steve Gatting , CB Les Berry , CB Colin Pates , RM John Robinson , CM Alan Curbishley , CM Dale Stephens LM Peter O'Sullivan , ST Darren Bent ST Garry Nelson
Palace GK Thomas Myrhe , RB John Humphrey , LB Colin Powell , CB Leon Cort , CB Herman Hreidarsson , RM Johnny Williams , CM Ben Watson , CM Joe Ledley , LM John Salako , ST Mark Bright , ST Mike Flanagan
Subs : Tony Burns , Darren Pitcher , Chris Whyte , Darren Ambrose , Paul Mortimer , David Whyte , Paul Williams
Ahem, Chris Powell!
Harsh to leave Pardew out of the 18, I suppose it would be between him and Ambrose on the bench but to me he pips Ambrose due to that FA Cup semi final winner, and for having managed both clubs
You could also make a strong case for leaving Ledley out, due to the brevity, hopelessness and pointlessness of his Charlton career
Thanks for the correction about Powell.
Before we signed Watson I selected Pardew for the team. I agree he was a good player for us and a FA Cup winner for them. I tried to pick a bench which could cover each position which is why Darren Pitcher is selected. He could cover Right Back as well. Chris Whyte was left footed which is why he gets selected over Hudson, McCarthy or Sorondo for the bench . Another player unlucky to be omitted is 60's Right Back John Sewell. Again I am not sure how versatile he was which is why I preferred Pitcher.
As for Ledley he is selected purely for his Palace career but that is balanced because Flanagan and Powell are selected for their time at the Valley.
Greg Halford only appears on the Brighton bench because their are no other Centre Backs that I knew of.
Brighton GK Ben Roberts RB John Humphrey LB Steve Gatting , CB Les Berry , CB Colin Pates , RM John Robinson , CM Alan Curbishley , CM Dale Stephens LM Peter O'Sullivan , ST Darren Bent ST Garry Nelson
Palace GK Thomas Myrhe , RB John Humphrey , LB Colin Powell , CB Leon Cort , CB Herman Hreidarsson , RM Johnny Williams , CM Ben Watson , CM Joe Ledley , LM John Salako , ST Mark Bright , ST Mike Flanagan
Subs : Tony Burns , Darren Pitcher , Chris Whyte , Darren Ambrose , Paul Mortimer , David Whyte , Paul Williams
Ahem, Chris Powell!
Harsh to leave Pardew out of the 18, I suppose it would be between him and Ambrose on the bench but to me he pips Ambrose due to that FA Cup semi final winner, and for having managed both clubs
You could also make a strong case for leaving Ledley out, due to the brevity, hopelessness and pointlessness of his Charlton career
Thanks for the correction about Powell.
Before we signed Watson I selected Pardew for the team. I agree he was a good player for us and a FA Cup winner for them. I tried to pick a bench which could cover each position which is why Darren Pitcher is selected. He could cover Right Back as well. Chris Whyte was left footed which is why he gets selected over Hudson, McCarthy or Sorondo for the bench . Another player unlucky to be omitted is 60's Right Back John Sewell. Again I am not sure how versatile he was which is why I preferred Pitcher.
As for Ledley he is selected purely for his Palace career but that is balanced because Flanagan and Powell are selected for their time at the Valley.
Greg Halford only appears on the Brighton bench because their are no other Centre Backs that I knew of.
Ledley's Palace career wasn't that much better than Pardew's. Ledley may have more top flight games, but Pardew played more times for Palace
There is a left back who played for both Charlton and Brighton, Adam Chicksen, albeit not very often for either club! Play him at LB, Gatting or one of the CBs can then be benched
The only other players I can think of are Andrew Crofts and Nicky Forster.
Brighton GK Ben Roberts RB John Humphrey LB Steve Gatting , CB Les Berry , CB Colin Pates , RM John Robinson , CM Alan Curbishley , CM Dale Stephens LM Peter O'Sullivan , ST Darren Bent ST Garry Nelson
Palace GK Thomas Myrhe , RB John Humphrey , LB Colin Powell , CB Leon Cort , CB Herman Hreidarsson , RM Johnny Williams , CM Ben Watson , CM Joe Ledley , LM John Salako , ST Mark Bright , ST Mike Flanagan
Subs : Tony Burns , Darren Pitcher , Chris Whyte , Darren Ambrose , Paul Mortimer , David Whyte , Paul Williams
Ahem, Chris Powell!
Harsh to leave Pardew out of the 18, I suppose it would be between him and Ambrose on the bench but to me he pips Ambrose due to that FA Cup semi final winner, and for having managed both clubs
You could also make a strong case for leaving Ledley out, due to the brevity, hopelessness and pointlessness of his Charlton career
Thanks for the correction about Powell.
Before we signed Watson I selected Pardew for the team. I agree he was a good player for us and a FA Cup winner for them. I tried to pick a bench which could cover each position which is why Darren Pitcher is selected. He could cover Right Back as well. Chris Whyte was left footed which is why he gets selected over Hudson, McCarthy or Sorondo for the bench . Another player unlucky to be omitted is 60's Right Back John Sewell. Again I am not sure how versatile he was which is why I preferred Pitcher.
As for Ledley he is selected purely for his Palace career but that is balanced because Flanagan and Powell are selected for their time at the Valley.
Greg Halford only appears on the Brighton bench because their are no other Centre Backs that I knew of.
Ledley's Palace career wasn't that much better than Pardew's. Ledley may have more top flight games, but Pardew played more times for Palace
There is a left back who played for both Charlton and Brighton, Adam Chicksen, albeit not very often for either club! Play him at LB, Gatting or one of the CBs can then be benched
The only other players I can think of are Andrew Crofts and Nicky Forster.
Pardew played in a FA Cup Final and won promotion with Palace so he probably had a better career at Palace . In my opinion the Palace verson of Ledley was a better player . I try to pick teams that could conceivably play together . I guess it is all about opinions . If I was selecting the midfield based on Charlton performances I would pick Pardew , Pitcher and Mortimer over Watson , Ledley and Salako .
For Brighton we could indeed have selected Chicksen . We could also have put Garry Borrowdale or Paul Sturgess there . If I had opted for a different Left Back it would probably have been Syd Ellis an England Under 23 International who played in the 1950's . I choose Gatting because if I had put him at Centre Back with Pates it would have meant two left footed players and Les Berry was a sound player who played over 300 times for Charlton mainly in the second tier although he may have struggled with the new back pass rule . Crofts and Forster are victims of there being better players available . Even Mike Small had a reasonable claim for selection for his exploits at Brighton which earned him a big money move to West Ham .
When I used to write for Dr Kish I explained my selections in greater detail .
On to our next opponents . Here is the Blackpool mutual team .
GK Sasa Illic , RB Kevin Foley , LB Steve Harrison , CB Garry
Rowett , CB Matt Jackson , RM Luke Varney , CM Jonjo Shelvey , CM Jason Euell , LM Andy
Reid , ST Dai Astley ,ST Ricardo Fuller .
Subs : Tony Caig , Miguel Llera , Arthur Whalley ( who played in Charlton's first league match ) ,Dennis Booth , Chris Eagles , Billy Clarke , Alex Dyer
Comments
I have done more research into historic players .Here are some of my latest line ups . Any omissions let me know .
Exeter
http://www.cafcpicks.com/cgi-bin/drkish/display.pl?month=201708&date=20170807&time=1446
Norwich
http://www.cafcpicks.com/cgi-bin/drkish/display.pl?month=201707&date=20170724&time=2032
Rotherham
http://www.cafcpicks.com/cgi-bin/drkish/display.pl?month=201708&date=20170826&time=1104
Southend
http://www.cafcpicks.com/cgi-bin/drkish/display.pl?month=201709&date=20170909&time=1319
http://www.cafcpicks.com/cgi-bin/drkish/display.pl?month=202004&date=20200413&time=1432
Other recent teams :
Sheffield Wednesday
http://www.cafcpicks.com/cgi-bin/drkish/display.pl?month=202002&date=20200225&time=2108
Forest
http://www.cafcpicks.com/cgi-bin/drkish/display.pl?month=202002&date=20200210&time=0824
Fulham
http://www.cafcpicks.com/cgi-bin/drkish/display.pl?month=202001&date=20200122&time=1150
West Brom
http://www.cafcpicks.com/cgi-bin/drkish/display.pl?month=202001&date=20200111&time=0514
Derby
http://www.cafcpicks.com/cgi-bin/drkish/display.pl?month=201912&date=20191229&time=1911
In my opinion it is quite weak compared to some of the other London teams .
http://www.cafcpicks.com/cgi-bin/drkish/display.pl?month=202006&date=20200608&time=0549
I did worry that overlooking Magennis may backfire .
http://www.cafcpicks.com/cgi-bin/drkish/display.pl?month=202006&date=20200619&time=0751
Impressive front two of Mike Flanagan and Stuart Leary .
http://www.cafcpicks.com/cgi-bin/drkish/display.pl?month=201912&date=20191221&time=0608
http://www.cafcpicks.com/cgi-bin/drkish/display.pl?month=202008&date=20200828&time=1908
I have made three changes since I posted at the start of this thread .
http://www.cafcpicks.com/cgi-bin/drkish/display.pl?month=202009&date=20200914&time=1736
I also did Crewe Saturday .
http://www.cafcpicks.com/cgi-bin/drkish/display.pl?month=202009&date=20200912&time=0509
GK John Vaughan , RB Chris Wilder , LB Alex Dyer , CB Steve Thompson , CB Bill Dodgin snr , RM Neil Redfearn , CM George Shipley , CM Dennis Booth , LM Cameron Stewart , ST Jason Lee , ST Steve White .
Other connections Simeon Hodson , Lyndsay Smith ,Shane Westley, Ray Harford , Dean Chandler , David Campbell , Dennis Wilson ,Mark Mccamon , Dennis Bailey and Dany N'Guessen .
I tried to do this the other day with my Posh supporting mate, got no more than five or six connections.
Peterborough is a club where you can do the exercise. GK Willie Duff, RB Lawrie Wilson, LB Alan Kimble, CB Phil Chapple, CB Grant Basey, RM Erhun Oztumer, CM Andrew Crofts, CM Dick Tydeman, LM Colin Walsh, ST Leon McKenzie ST Jason Lee.
There are many others.
I can improve Grimsby after Fanewo's signing . It looks more balanced now although a couple of players are slightly out of their natural positions .
GK Charlie Wright , RB Simon Francis , LB Danny Butterfield , CB Andy Todd , CB Akin Fanewo , RM Bryan Hughes , CM Andy Peake , CM Dean Sinclair , LM Jack Pugsley , ST Clive Mendonca , ST Matt Tees .
England Internationals 4 5 1
GK Nick Pope , RB Luke Young , LB Chris Powell , CB Danny Mills , CB Derek Ufton , RM Robert Lee , CM Mike Bailey , CM Scott Parker , CM Lee Bowyer LM John Barnes , ST Darren Bent
Republic of Ireland
4 5 1
GK Dean Kiely,RB Kevin Foley ,LB Theo Foley,CB Gary Doherty CB,Alan Kernaghan,RM Aiden McGeady , CMJosh Cullen ,Mark Kinsella,Matt HollandLMAndy Reid ST Ray Treacy
Scottish Charlton
Charlie Wright , John Hewie , Mark Reid , Alan Campbell , Joe McLaughlin , Christian Dailly ,Andrew Shinnie, Jim Melrose , Chris Iwelumo , Colin Walsh . Chris Duffy
Welsh Charlton
John Phillips ,Adam Matthews ,Mark Bowen , Mark Aizlewood , Chris Gunter , Leighton Phillips ,John Robinson Johnny Williams , Graham Moore , Dai Astley, Carl Harris
GK Scott Carason, RB Frank Lock , LB Paul Konchesy , CB Joe Gomez , CB Djimi Traore , RM Liam Millar , CM Danny Murphy , CM Johnjo Shelvey , LM John Barnes , ST John Evans , Paul Walsh
After posts above I discovered that Cambridge had many mutual connections in the 1950's which dramatically improve the team .
The central midfield partnership which won the FA Cup Final Bert Johnson and William Whittacker were both player managers at the Abbey Stadium in the 1950's Jock Campbell and Frank Lock also played there in this era .
GK Nick Pope , RB Jock Campbell , LB Frank Lock , CB Michael Morrison , CB Garry Rowett , RM Tony Towner , CM Bert Johnson , CM William Whittacker , LM Martin Robinson , ST Mike Flanagan , ST Karlan Grant .
Crawley is another team influenced by their non league heritage .
GK Ben Hamer , RB Marvin Hinton , LB Kelly Youga , CB Richard Wood , CB Colin Pates , RM Tony Towner , CM Josh Wright , CM Peter O'Sullivan , LM John Robinson , ST Billy Clarke , ST Karlan Grant
There are lots of options but I have decided to go 4 5 1 and base the spine of this selection on the 1980/81 Charlton promotion team . I include 6 players from that side . I could have picked a 7th but Martin Robinson misses out to his namesake John.
GK Darren Randolph , RB John Humphrey . LB Paul Konchesky , CB Les Berry , CB Peter Shaw , RM Colin Powell , CM Dick Tydeman , CM Phil Walker . LM John Robinson , AM Gavin Peacock , ST Derek Hales
Leeds are playing Wolves tonight .
I posted these previously on Dr Kish which is no longer available .
Leeds : GK Scott Carson , RB Danny Mills , LB Mark Aizlewood , CB Jason Pearce , CB Chris Whyte , RM Carl Harris , CM Radistan Kisichiev , CM Lee Bowyer , LM Jerome Thomas , ST Jimmy Floyd Hasselbaink , ST Jim Melrose .
Subs : Ben Alnwick , Frazer Richardson , Sam Sodje , Andy Hughes , Lloyd Sam , Rob Hulse , John Pearson
Wolves : GK Carl Ikeme , RB John Humphrey , LB Lawrie Madden , CB Peter Shirtliff , CB Roger Johnson , RM Shaun Newton , CM Mike Bailey , CM Emmanuel Frimpong , LM Michal Zyro , ST Ray Crawford , ST Jim Melrose
Subs : Noel Dwyer , Kevin Foley , John Pender , Greg Halford , Cliff Durant , Chris Iwelumo , Jay Bothroyd
Grimsby has improved again with our new signing Diallang Jaiyesmi . Additionally Billy Clarke moved to Blundell Park last season so !930's legend left sider Welsh International Jack Pugsley can now fill in at left back . I will stick with the Mendonca / Tees combination up front ignoring the claims of Omar Bogle .
GK Charlie Wright , RB Simon Francis , LB Jack Pugsley , CB Andy Todd , CB Akin Fanewo , RM Diallang Jaiyesmi , CM Bryan Hughes , CM Andy Peake , LM Billy Clarke , ST Clive Mendonca , ST Matt Tees .
Nottingham Forest improved this season with Gunter , Taylor (sorry) and Watson . Arter would only make the bench .
GK Stephen Henderson , RB Chris Gunter , LB Paul Konchesky , CB Jack Oates , CB Carl Tiler , RM Johnny Williams , CM Ben Watson , CM Andy Reid , LM Colin Walsh , ST Sailor Brown , ST Lyle Taylor .
Subs Paul Smith ( ex CAFC Youth player ) , Carl Jenkinson , Greg Halford , Michael Stewart , Harry Arter , Chris Bart Williams , Marcus Tudgay .
Marcus Maddison improves Peterborough ( based mainly on his form at Posh )
GK Willie Duff, RB Lawrie Wilson, LB Alan Kimble, CB Phil Chapple, CB Grant Basey, RM Marcus Maddison, CM Andrew Crofts, CM Dick Tydeman, LM Colin Walsh, ST Leon McKenzie ST Jason Lee.
He scrapes into the Hull side as well . I choose to move Dyer to the back where he played in his latter career over historic player John Vickers .
GK Ben Amos , RB Danny Mills ,LB Alex Dyer , CB Leon Cort , CB Norman Neilson, RM Cameron Stewart , CM Dennis Booth , CM Bryan Hughes , LM Marcus Maddison , ST John Pearson , ST Martyn Waghorn.
He wouldn't make the Bolton team however and has to be content with a place on the bench . Before people complain he gets the slot in front of Marcus Alonso or Joe Doodo .This would be 4 5 1
GK Charlie Wright , RB Don McAllister , LB Anthony Barness , CB Tal Ben Haim , CB Mark Fish , DM Josh Cullen , DM Darren Pratley , AMR Chris Eagles , AMC Claus Jensen , AML John Salako , ST Marvin Sordell .
Subs Ben Amos , Andy Todd , Alan Kernaghan , Neil Redfearn , Marcus Maddison , Josh Magennis , Ricardo Vaz Te
Marcus was exceptional for Posh which is why I picked him. I try to select the teams based on how they played for one of the clubs.
I didn't put a bench for Posh because there were not enough defensive players to make it realistic.
We could also have selected Alnwick or Amos in goal.
The back four picks itself. Personally I always preferred Grant as a left footed centre back although I suspect pace would be an issue if paired with Chapple.
David Petrucci, Hogan Ephraim, Gary Kimble, Scott Houghton and Ricky Otto were options in midfield as well as Ozzi. I don't think any Addick would argue with Tydeman or Walsh's inclusion and I felt Crofts was better than those listed above.
Up front I selected Lee and McKenzie as they played together successfully for Posh. As well as Connor I could have picked Nicky Ajose, Bradley Allen, Omar Bogle, Scott McLeish, Izale McLeod, Jonathan Obika and Mike Small.
Two of the better mutual teams .
Brighton GK Ben Roberts RB John Humphrey LB Steve Gatting , CB Les Berry , CB Colin Pates , RM John Robinson , CM Alan Curbishley , CM Dale Stephens LM Peter O'Sullivan , ST Darren Bent ST Garry Nelson
Subs : David Button , Greg Halford , Radistan Kishischev , Beram Kayal , Jake Forster Caskey , Temer Hemed , Chris Iwelumo
Palace GK Thomas Myrhe , RB John Humphrey , LB Chris Powell , CB Leon Cort , CB Herman Hreidarsson , RM Johnny Williams , CM Ben Watson , CM Joe Ledley , LM John Salako , ST Mark Bright , ST Mike Flanagan
Subs : Tony Burns , Darren Pitcher , Chris Whyte , Darren Ambrose , Paul Mortimer , David Whyte , Paul Williams
Harsh to leave Pardew out of the 18, I suppose it would be between him and Ambrose on the bench but to me he pips Ambrose due to that FA Cup semi final winner, and for having managed both clubs
You could also make a strong case for leaving Ledley out, due to the brevity, hopelessness and pointlessness of his Charlton career
Before we signed Watson I selected Pardew for the team. I agree he was a good player for us and a FA Cup winner for them. I tried to pick a bench which could cover each position which is why Darren Pitcher is selected. He could cover Right Back as well. Chris Whyte was left footed which is why he gets selected over Hudson, McCarthy or Sorondo for the bench . Another player unlucky to be omitted is 60's Right Back John Sewell. Again I am not sure how versatile he was which is why I preferred Pitcher.
As for Ledley he is selected purely for his Palace career but that is balanced because Flanagan and Powell are selected for their time at the Valley.
Greg Halford only appears on the Brighton bench because their are no other Centre Backs that I knew of.
There is a left back who played for both Charlton and Brighton, Adam Chicksen, albeit not very often for either club! Play him at LB, Gatting or one of the CBs can then be benched
The only other players I can think of are Andrew Crofts and Nicky Forster.
For Brighton we could indeed have selected Chicksen . We could also have put Garry Borrowdale or Paul Sturgess there . If I had opted for a different Left Back it would probably have been Syd Ellis an England Under 23 International who played in the 1950's .
I choose Gatting because if I had put him at Centre Back with Pates it would have meant two left footed players and Les Berry was a sound player who played over 300 times for Charlton mainly in the second tier although he may have struggled with the new back pass rule . Crofts and Forster are victims of there being better players available . Even Mike Small had a reasonable claim for selection for his exploits at Brighton which earned him a big money move to West Ham .
When I used to write for Dr Kish I explained my selections in greater detail .
GK Sasa Illic , RB Kevin Foley , LB Steve Harrison , CB Garry Rowett , CB Matt Jackson , RM Luke Varney , CM Jonjo Shelvey , CM Jason Euell , LM Andy Reid , ST Dai Astley ,ST Ricardo Fuller .
Subs : Tony Caig , Miguel Llera , Arthur Whalley ( who played in Charlton's first league match ) ,Dennis Booth , Chris Eagles , Billy Clarke , Alex Dyer