Watching grown men boo makes me laugh. It is for pantomimes, message to the boo boys, look at youself in the mirror booing and see how ridiculous it makes you look
I personally hate booing, I dislike the angry faces and find it all very ugly and counter-productive. But I can understand it. I haven't got over Milwall and I regretted being at the Valley yesterday as I wanted the players and Parky to give more, much more, than they did. I don't think they truly understand supporters and the players seem to exist in an isolated bubble. Pride in a shirt is a rarity these days, success is measured by the size of a pay packet and sadly, it seems to be enough for most of them. So whilst I can see that we shouldn't have to take it, that's how it is. We are in an invidious position. If we support, they don't seem to respond and that hurts us. If we boo, they'll care even less, and that hurts us too.
i wasn't at the game so can't comment on this game, but i have been to many games at other grounds and seen the fans really attempt to help the team when they are losing. i listened to a portsmouth game the other week on the radio, and the noise those fans created (not many more than our fan base) when their team were behind was an inspiration and they are are long way from being '3RD' in their league!
Some of our fans could learn a lesson from the brilliant Portsmouth fans who continue to suport their team no matter what is thrown at them. No-one who condones booing has ever been able to prove that it does any good.
[cite]Posted By: ME14addick[/cite]No-one who condones booing has ever been able to prove that it does any good.
Got a reaction from Mooney didn't it?
Not until yesterday. People have been booing and telling him he's crap to his face for weeks now.
The booing had absolutely nothing to do with his performance yesterday. He looked a lot stronger and hungrier from the start, and I'd infact put that down to Parkinson and the coaching staff, not the ridiculous boo boys.
[cite]Posted By: Callumcafc[/cite]
The booing had absolutely nothing to do with his performance yesterday. He looked a lot stronger and hungrier from the start, and I'd infact put that down to Parkinson and the coaching staff, not the ridiculous boo boys.
So the booers can have an effect when it's negative, yet when the reaction is positive it can't possibly be down to them?
[cite]Posted By: Callumcafc[/cite]People have been booing and telling him he's crap to his face for weeks now.
Probably because, in their opinion, he is.
I don't think booing is the answer myself but then again nor is sitting back and pretending everything is OK, just look what happend 2 season ago.
[cite]Posted By: Stu of HU5[/cite]So the booers can have an effect when it's negative, yet when the reaction is positive it can't possibly be down to them?
Yeah, pretty much. It's just poisonous and doesn't help the team in any way.
No-one here is suggesting that everything is okay, I think everyone now realises we have defensive frailties and can't control the midfield unless we have five in there. But five can't be facilitied as the only striker who can effectively play up front is Burton who is again injured.
We just don't want people getting on their backs at such an important time in the season.
Mate, the fact that he basically told the booers to get ****** with his celebration, which is quite possibly the first celbreation taking the mick out of ones own "fans"...
Now driving teams forward, 12 th man style, NOT getting on your teams back, Proper support, that is worthy of credit...
Acting like a cry baby, booing your team BEFORE KICK OFF, deseres an instant and permanent ban from the valey......
Situations arent ideal, were still 3rd and may well get a playff spot, but we arent really a good team, booing and creating a wedge between fans and players is only gonna damage that...
[cite]Posted By: LenGlover[/cite]
If you hate it that much why bother to come and spoil it for everybody else?
I think this is the bottom line for me - if you can't bite your tongue for the player's sakes, will some of you at least consider that you're ruining the matchday experience for a number of your fellow fans and give it a frigging rest for a few weeks? Please.
[cite]Posted By: mascot88[/cite]Mate, the fact that he basically told the booers to get ****** with his celebration, which is quite possibly the first celbreation taking the mick out of ones own "fans"...
Did you just start watching football last week? This kind of thing happens all the time.
Maybe his desire to tell the fans to do one via his celebration is what caused him to score the goal.
[cite]Posted By: Callumcafc[/cite]
Yeah, pretty much. It's just poisonous and doesn't help the team in any way.
Do you have any actual proof for this? At the end of the day the ONLY thing that will stop people booing, would be the team performing, sadly that's just not going to happen with Parkinson at the helm, so I'd get used to it if I was you. As fans we pay our money and can vent our feelings how we wish, a bit of crying on an internet message board won't stop someone sharing their opnion.
[cite]Posted By: Exiled_Addick[/cite]
I think this is the bottom line for me - if you can't bite your tongue for the player's sakes, will some of you at least consider that you're ruining the matchday experience for a number of your fellow fans and give it a frigging rest for a few weeks? Please.
Surely if your weekends are being ruined you want to be blaming the people who are being paid to ENTERTAIN YOU.
[cite]Posted By: mascot88[/cite]Mate, the fact that he basically told the booers to get ****** with his celebration, which is quite possibly the first celbreation taking the mick out of ones own "fans"...
Did you just start watching football last week? This kind of thing happens all the time.
Maybe his desire to tell the fans to do one via his celebration is what caused him to score the goal.
So where did this desire appear from all of a sudden? The boos have been ringing out for weeks yet Mooney only decided to react yesterday. Odd.
[cite]Posted By: Stu of HU5[/cite]
[cite]Posted By: Callumcafc[/cite]
Yeah, pretty much. It's just poisonous and doesn't help the team in any way.
Do you have any actual proof for this? At the end of the day the ONLY thing that will stop people booing, would be the team performing, sadly that's just not going to happen with Parkinson at the helm, so I'd get used to it if I was you. As fans we pay our money and can vent our feelings how we wish, a bit of crying on an internet message board won't stop someone sharing their opnion.
Well the proof is in myself really. I'm not exactly the greatest at football and when people knock me it takes it out of me. Thinking about thousands doing it is just awful. Sometimes you do think "right, I'm gonna show these lot and score a goal or two today" but when it doesn't go your way again it just makes you feel worse.
The other angle is where's the evidence that it does anything beneficial? It's a very very dangerous territory.
Cheering the team on however through thick and thin is practically proven if not to improve the players performance then improve the levels of enjoyment fans get from the game (see Pompey).
Your supposed to support the team Stu, if your booing why dont you sit with the away fans, as your obviously against the team, and pretending it does something positive is naive....
[cite]Posted By: InspectorSands[/cite]
It's not like a night in front of the telly.
Here is the problem, for some it is.
Surely everyone can accept that as a supporter, your support can only go so far, some will be at the end of thier teathers, after the last few years can anyone really blame them?
I'm not saying booing is right/wrong/good/bad, what I'm saying is, to claim it can never have a positive impact, is stupid and very close-minded, people react to criticism differently, just as they do to praise.
As I said earlier, I myself don't boo, I prefer to get behind the team whilst in the ground, however to start blaiming fans for the shocking performances being served up by the team and manangment is wrong imo.
[cite]Posted By: Exiled_Addick[/cite]
I think this is the bottom line for me - if you can't bite your tongue for the player's sakes, will some of you at least consider that you're ruining the matchday experience for a number of your fellow fans and give it a frigging rest for a few weeks? Please.
Surely if your weekends are being ruined you want to be blaming the people who are being paid to ENTERTAIN YOU.
As I've said elsewhere STU, I thought we played okay yesterday. Not brilliant, but not badly either. I thought the game was reasonably enjoyable as a spectacle. Not a classic but at a level that didn't make me feel like I'd wasted my afternoon and money. Others may disagree, that's their opinion and they're entitled to it. Maybe I'm easily pleased or have lower standards, I dunno, but that's my perogative. So, in answer to your point, the players didn't ruin my afternoon and did entertain me. The boo boys did ruin my afternoon and I'm clearly not the only one who feels this way, so I'm asking nicely that they ease off it a bit. I don't expect for a second that anyone will take any notice of my plea - why should they? But I'm sick of it so this is my last resort before I walk away and either go support my local team Kiddy Harriers, or give up on football completely.
Melodramatic maybe, but I don't see why I should bother giving up a whole Saturday and £££s every other week to sit with a bunch of miserable gits who only want to see the worst in everything that happens on the pitch.
Oh here we go another one who supports booing but "doesnt boo"
Also no one is blaming the fans for the performances, we are simply saying that booing is nothing but negative......
If you are at the end of your tether DONT COME !
Booing is never going to help, and those that believe it and do boo are simply justifiying behaviour that has no place at a football match if visited on your own team...
We are supposed to help the team in tough times, we are supposed to be the people that will never turn on them, instead we are now making it harder for our team and easier for the away team as the valley is toxic....
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While in the ground? Not for me. I just don't see a slight positive in it other than a purely selfish point of view of feeling better.
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Got a reaction from Mooney didn't it?
I can take crap football - but I can't take the tantrums of people who seem to think they're entitled to Premier League performances.
I know I'm not the only one feeling this way. And eventually, it'll kill this club.
Not until yesterday. People have been booing and telling him he's crap to his face for weeks now.
The booing had absolutely nothing to do with his performance yesterday. He looked a lot stronger and hungrier from the start, and I'd infact put that down to Parkinson and the coaching staff, not the ridiculous boo boys.
I would imagine that would be the coaching staff not the booing that resulted in an improved performance
So the booers can have an effect when it's negative, yet when the reaction is positive it can't possibly be down to them?
Probably because, in their opinion, he is.
I don't think booing is the answer myself but then again nor is sitting back and pretending everything is OK, just look what happend 2 season ago.
Yeah, pretty much. It's just poisonous and doesn't help the team in any way.
No-one here is suggesting that everything is okay, I think everyone now realises we have defensive frailties and can't control the midfield unless we have five in there. But five can't be facilitied as the only striker who can effectively play up front is Burton who is again injured.
We just don't want people getting on their backs at such an important time in the season.
Now driving teams forward, 12 th man style, NOT getting on your teams back, Proper support, that is worthy of credit...
Acting like a cry baby, booing your team BEFORE KICK OFF, deseres an instant and permanent ban from the valey......
Situations arent ideal, were still 3rd and may well get a playff spot, but we arent really a good team, booing and creating a wedge between fans and players is only gonna damage that...
What was absolutely unforgiveable, in my eyes, though was booing Mooney before a ball was kicked as the teams were announced.
Mind you our hard core of tossers used to do the same to Kishishev, Lisbie and sometimes Bryan Hughes, Darren Ambrose and Zheng Zhi.
I really thought that the one and only consolation of our sorry decline would be losing these types.
If you hate it that much why bother to come and spoil it for everybody else?
I think this is the bottom line for me - if you can't bite your tongue for the player's sakes, will some of you at least consider that you're ruining the matchday experience for a number of your fellow fans and give it a frigging rest for a few weeks? Please.
Maybe his desire to tell the fans to do one via his celebration is what caused him to score the goal.
Do you have any actual proof for this? At the end of the day the ONLY thing that will stop people booing, would be the team performing, sadly that's just not going to happen with Parkinson at the helm, so I'd get used to it if I was you. As fans we pay our money and can vent our feelings how we wish, a bit of crying on an internet message board won't stop someone sharing their opnion.
Surely if your weekends are being ruined you want to be blaming the people who are being paid to ENTERTAIN YOU.
It's not like a night in front of the telly.
So where did this desire appear from all of a sudden? The boos have been ringing out for weeks yet Mooney only decided to react yesterday. Odd.
Well the proof is in myself really. I'm not exactly the greatest at football and when people knock me it takes it out of me. Thinking about thousands doing it is just awful. Sometimes you do think "right, I'm gonna show these lot and score a goal or two today" but when it doesn't go your way again it just makes you feel worse.
The other angle is where's the evidence that it does anything beneficial? It's a very very dangerous territory.
Cheering the team on however through thick and thin is practically proven if not to improve the players performance then improve the levels of enjoyment fans get from the game (see Pompey).
Here is the problem, for some it is.
Surely everyone can accept that as a supporter, your support can only go so far, some will be at the end of thier teathers, after the last few years can anyone really blame them?
I'm not saying booing is right/wrong/good/bad, what I'm saying is, to claim it can never have a positive impact, is stupid and very close-minded, people react to criticism differently, just as they do to praise.
As I said earlier, I myself don't boo, I prefer to get behind the team whilst in the ground, however to start blaiming fans for the shocking performances being served up by the team and manangment is wrong imo.
As I've said elsewhere STU, I thought we played okay yesterday. Not brilliant, but not badly either. I thought the game was reasonably enjoyable as a spectacle. Not a classic but at a level that didn't make me feel like I'd wasted my afternoon and money. Others may disagree, that's their opinion and they're entitled to it. Maybe I'm easily pleased or have lower standards, I dunno, but that's my perogative. So, in answer to your point, the players didn't ruin my afternoon and did entertain me. The boo boys did ruin my afternoon and I'm clearly not the only one who feels this way, so I'm asking nicely that they ease off it a bit. I don't expect for a second that anyone will take any notice of my plea - why should they? But I'm sick of it so this is my last resort before I walk away and either go support my local team Kiddy Harriers, or give up on football completely.
Melodramatic maybe, but I don't see why I should bother giving up a whole Saturday and £££s every other week to sit with a bunch of miserable gits who only want to see the worst in everything that happens on the pitch.
Also no one is blaming the fans for the performances, we are simply saying that booing is nothing but negative......
If you are at the end of your tether DONT COME !
Booing is never going to help, and those that believe it and do boo are simply justifiying behaviour that has no place at a football match if visited on your own team...
We are supposed to help the team in tough times, we are supposed to be the people that will never turn on them, instead we are now making it harder for our team and easier for the away team as the valley is toxic....