What really got me going was the "I'm a tough man" act at the final whistle.
He only acts like that because he feels safe surrounded by stewards, Police and his team mates. When he killed the man, he acted like a coward and ran away.
During the game everytime he or a team mate went down injured, he wanted justice in the form of a free kick. He wanted his trainer on when a player was hurt. Did he do that to the poor innocent man he killed? No, he ran away and only worried about himself.
If he had crashed his car while sober, im sure we'd have understood. If he crashed and killed someone while sober, we would have understood because its something that could happen to eveyone of us. But, how many of us drink and drive? How many of us would run away and hide, letting someone die? Very few!
He didn't have the bottle to face up to his actions. He didn't care for that man, so why should I show him any compasion or understanding?
He knows that Off it, and has to live with it everyday. It's not something I would like on my shoulders. I already said that it is that part of his crime that sticks in my throat most.
During the game everytime he or a team mate went down injured, he wanted justice in the form of a free kick. He wanted his trainer on when a player was hurt.
Maybe he has learned from his crime? He is a very popular member of the dressing room and is actually a lovely bloke in real life.
He can't take back what he did, he just has to live with it.
One of the main problems here is with the criminal justice system, I think everyone would agree that not only was his orginal sentence (7 years I think) not long enough, but the fac he only served 3 years is a disgrace. If he had received the kind of sentence that he should have (imho 10 years plus), there is no way he would have got back into professional football and Hughes would be like most ex prisoners on his release.
A very similar case involves Luke McCormack who I think will be able to get parole next year, would not be surprised to see him back in the game aswell.
All he had to do was not react.... play it straight and focus on playing football, but his behaviour just wound everybody up!
The nonsense at the end was both sad and juvenille. I did not join in because he wanted to get off on his bizzare antics, and seems to regard himself as a martyr with his smug, trite, behaviour!
As of yet I am unsure wether I am more happy that he missed the penalty, or we took the three points.
One of the biggest gits I have seen on a football pitch in recent times.
just wish fans ours included would shut up, because we got lucky today 9 times out of ten it would have come back to bit us on the arse.Does screaming murderer at a player make him play worse . Nope it makes him want to shove it down our throat.I hate the geezer but didn't spend 90 mins abusing him, I waited till the final whistle blew and then and only then gave him the abuse he deserved.
It has become a bit of a standing joke on our board that we hope opposing fans will boo him because he inevitably scores.
Chants of murderer are just wrong though.
I'm sure even away fans wouldn't imply that he went out with the intention of killing someone. He was convicted of causing death by dangerous driving. He is not a murderer.
it's easier to shout shit at francis and abbott though. Tell me when can we start using Francis as the stick to hit parky with this season, as was asked a few weeks ago.
techinically Murderer is wrong but I'm sure he gets the gist. His crime will always stink and he'll never escape the abuse- nor should he. Problem is, a bit of the stink rubs off on those who employ him and sorry -yes, those who defend him.
[cite]Posted By: VisitingPie[/cite]It has become a bit of a standing joke on our board that we hope opposing fans will boo him because he inevitably scores.
Chants of murderer are just wrong though.
I'm sure even away fans would imply that he went out with the intention of killing someone. He was convicted of causing death by dangerous driving. He is not a murderer.
This is football, you can expect one-eyed parochialism.
As I saw it he got abuse all match, missed a couple of chances (thankfully) and went off at the final whistle with the intention of winding up some fans who'd been giving him stick all match. As you suggest he's used to this treatment and gets it at every match so he knows how to handle it and judging by the reaction here it worked perfectly.
I get the feeling that soon either visiting or a.n.other person is going to say that we shouldn't have sung that to him as it was nasty and horrible and we may hurt his feelings
[cite]Posted By: nth london addick[/cite]I get the feeling that soon either visiting or a.n.other person is going to say that we shouldn't have sung that to him as it was nasty and horrible and we may hurt his feelings
He and every other professional should not need to be motivated to play and he's been on the receiving end of these chants for a couple of years now for them to be pointless.
At least his presence today stopped distracted the North Upper away from booing our players, that much was a refreshing change.
[cite]Posted By: VisitingPie[/cite]Hope we get to meet you in the playoffs!
It happens in every single match, why do County fans feel the need to "educate" other fans about him, and why does he feel the need to give it large after missing a load of chances?
The moral of the story: booing reduces player performance. ;-)
[cite]Posted By: kimbo[/cite]What ever he has done he did not deserve the abuse he got today. Those who shouted murderer were disgraceful IMHO
Are you out of your mind? The bloke was utterly annihilated on gear and booze, ploughed his motor into a family's car, killed one of the occupants, maimed his wife and their friend and f'ed off before the police arrived so that he could get the evidence of intoxication out of his system. I don't call that a 'mistake' - I call that murder. Just because the state doesn't, doesn't mean it isn't.
He's a filthy, dirty, murdering - and no amount of abuse he gets from football fans is enough. Anyone defending him is an absolute ahole of the highest order as well - if he ever signed for our club I would never watch Charlton again.
I have to agree with Leroy there, but then most normal human beings would. As for him offering someone out in the lower north...If that is true he needs a proper beating because he obviously hasn't learned a thing. No violence isn't the answer but then again he ripped up the rule book when he left a man to die. Just a shame the person in the lower north never got up and beat 7 bells out of him. Mind you we have to play them again so there's still time
My problem with Hughes is not so much the crime, because that has been handled by the criminal justice system, so any beef there should be with the system not the player. However, by his antics, it seems that there is no remorse. I know that Visiting has said that he hasto live with it every day,but his antics show him as someone who rather revels in what he has done and his reputation. He has stated that he is remorseful (http://tinyurl.com/3yjznc2) but you have not only to say it but act it and on the pitch he could do that by getting his head down and just doing his job, something he is very talented at.
Comments
He only acts like that because he feels safe surrounded by stewards, Police and his team mates. When he killed the man, he acted like a coward and ran away.
During the game everytime he or a team mate went down injured, he wanted justice in the form of a free kick. He wanted his trainer on when a player was hurt. Did he do that to the poor innocent man he killed? No, he ran away and only worried about himself.
If he had crashed his car while sober, im sure we'd have understood. If he crashed and killed someone while sober, we would have understood because its something that could happen to eveyone of us. But, how many of us drink and drive? How many of us would run away and hide, letting someone die? Very few!
He didn't have the bottle to face up to his actions. He didn't care for that man, so why should I show him any compasion or understanding?
He gets everything he deserves!
Maybe he has learned from his crime? He is a very popular member of the dressing room and is actually a lovely bloke in real life.
He can't take back what he did, he just has to live with it.
I don't think any away fan facing Hughes wouldn't abuse him yourselves and Oldham took him on so you guys can love him and celebrate every goal.
He should just get on with his football and not do what he did at the end he seemed to enjoy the villan role and that is wrong
A very similar case involves Luke McCormack who I think will be able to get parole next year, would not be surprised to see him back in the game aswell.
The nonsense at the end was both sad and juvenille. I did not join in because he wanted to get off on his bizzare antics, and seems to regard himself as a martyr with his smug, trite, behaviour!
As of yet I am unsure wether I am more happy that he missed the penalty, or we took the three points.
One of the biggest gits I have seen on a football pitch in recent times.
Your just getting old and wise
When you taking me and j on holibobs
Chants of murderer are just wrong though.
I'm sure even away fans wouldn't imply that he went out with the intention of killing someone. He was convicted of causing death by dangerous driving. He is not a murderer.
He killed someone and shouting death by dangerous driving takes too long
Murderer is much more effective and easy to say
This is football, you can expect one-eyed parochialism.
As I saw it he got abuse all match, missed a couple of chances (thankfully) and went off at the final whistle with the intention of winding up some fans who'd been giving him stick all match. As you suggest he's used to this treatment and gets it at every match so he knows how to handle it and judging by the reaction here it worked perfectly.
Yeah, but trying to find a song/tune that rhymes with 'Causing death by dangerous driving' is a bit tricky for the normal football fan.
He and every other professional should not need to be motivated to play and he's been on the receiving end of these chants for a couple of years now for them to be pointless.
At least his presence today stopped distracted the North Upper away from booing our players, that much was a refreshing change.
Imho he deserved what he got and more. Infact he deserved a dig but hey you can't give him everything he deserved
It happens in every single match, why do County fans feel the need to "educate" other fans about him, and why does he feel the need to give it large after missing a load of chances?
The moral of the story: booing reduces player performance. ;-)
He's a filthy, dirty, murdering - and no amount of abuse he gets from football fans is enough. Anyone defending him is an absolute ahole of the highest order as well - if he ever signed for our club I would never watch Charlton again.
Do I think you should stop doing it? Not at all.
He gets it every game...it's football, he knows he will get it, we know he will get it. He usually scores.
Ps...why are you upset at me saying Good luck, hope we meet you in the playoffs? I'm baffled.