[cite]Posted By: suzisausage[/cite]started joining in with 'valley floyd road' the guy to the right of me looked at me as if i'd just stepped off a space ship from mars!?!
[cite]Posted By: suzisausage[/cite]started joining in with 'valley floyd road' the guy to the right of me looked at me as if i'd just stepped off a space ship from mars!?!
Poor Les, he has to put up with a lot...
haha, i was sat next to Ms Latimer, Les was the other side of her. smart arse. :-)
I thought that the atmosphere was shocking!! i have only done Palace away this year but done my fair share of away games in the past and this was one of the worst atmospheres i have experienced!
as previously stated, the crowds average age was about 65 and hardly anybody wanted to sing (where i was anyway). Why would you bother travelling away to sit there?
And there was me almost going to make it 10x worse and buy you a beer at HT to try and get you to chill NLA ;-)
Mate I have to agree. They are everything that is wrong with this club these days. Fans that have either forgotten what it used to be like or just weren't around in the bad days, but because they've been paying their money since 2000, think they have a divine right to slag off everything about the club and bollox to anyone else. BS! If you don't like it then don't go, but please stop spoiling it for the rest of us......
Mind you looking back on the goading of them for 15/20mins with us 3 blaming Matt Holland for anything that went wrong, very loudly and very sarcastically was funny....
I have no idea when these fans started coming, they claim to have been supporting the club for 50 years, so i dont think we can use the johnny come lately tag, nor can we generalise everyone into the same category. There wasn't the usual sit down brigade, as those standing were nearer the back anyway. I was happy to stand if those around me were, but there was an older gentleman and a kid behind us so we refrained. What did make me laugh is that we stayed in our seats for half time, and everyone that was sitting down infront of us stood up, and those at the back standing for the game sat down. haha. it was inability to encourage the team from the off, or just people not even moaning, just sitting there in silence that baffled me. at least look bothered. I wish i had £26.50 to waste on a day out when I didn't really care that much.
must say more players came over and they got quite a loud round of applause as fans were leaving than they have at either home games or away games in recent weeks. it wasn't just matt holland that came over either.
i'm a little confused by these comments, half the people on here moan about the lack of travelling support and yet when 1700 turn up thats not right either. my dad is 68 and we went to ipswich and we've been to a fair few away games this season. his 57 years of supporting charlton put my 32 years of supporting them to shame so he can go to whatever game he likes as far as i'm concerned.
[cite]Posted By: billy cotton[/cite]i'm a little confused by these comments, half the people on here moan about the lack of travelling support and yet when 1700 turn up thats not right either. my dad is 68 and we went to ipswich and we've been to a fair few away games this season. his 57 years of supporting charlton put my 32 years of supporting them to shame so he can go to whatever game he likes as far as i'm concerned.
like i said, mine and others generalisations can be wrong, but when you're sitting completely surrounded by people who are unmoved for the disallowed goals, not even clap a single time, for any good move we did (believe it or not there were lots of them on saturday, they just were followed by crap moves) then I fail to see what enjoyment they are getting out of it.
I don't know your dad, and I don't know if he is a silent supporter, a rowdy supporter or just a normal, watch the game, get behind the team, have a little grumble, clap along every now and then type person. so sorry for generalising, but there were a large amount of people there on Saturday that might as well have been at home listening on the radio for all the emotion they showed.
I think the reason for the Poor atmostphere is that our lot at the back refused point blank to start of any Red Army/CAFC chants & they are the ONLY songs that some of our fans seem to know. All TRUE charlton fans were singing at Portman Road on Saturday FACT.
[cite]Posted By: Ketman[/cite]I think the reason for the Poor atmostphere is that our lot at the back refused point blank to start of any Red Army/CAFC chants & they are the ONLY songs that some of our fans seem to know. All TRUE charlton fans were singing at Portman Road on Saturday FACT.
I think AFKA tried to start CAFC a few times....
To be honest, people got involved with "Ipswich Family" but that is just because they can clap a couple of times. Me and Smudge kept "Alan Pardew's Red & White Army" going for a while but nobody can be bothered and it gets so depressing, even the yoof to the right were quiet.
[cite]Posted By: Rothko[/cite]Still don't know the end of 'a grand old team' do they, I was about the only one singing the last couple of lines of that song.
Even the "Havin' A Party" started going well and then just tailed off and died a death....
Doffed cap to NSS for singing "Peter Varney's....." for about 20mins non stop whilst all about us tucked into their Jaffa Cakes and I was trying to stop NLA from killing the bloke in front of him ;-)
i have to admit im one of thoughs supporters who started going about a year before the west stand was regenerated (cant remember the year) and i admit that i only know the words to the more popular songs. for example, i have no idea how the 'grand old team' chant goes. even as little as 3 or 4 years ago whenever charlton got a corner, the covered end would belt out 'come on you reeeeddddsss' but we dont get that anymore. i like many others dont know the answer to why the atmosphere has deteriorated so much but in my opinion its because the team looks like they cant be bothered which relays that message to the crowd who then cant be bothered.
i appreciate what you're saying and although i don't personally believe it matters, i can guarantee you that whether the fans on saturday were silent, rowdy or normal, every single one of them that went cared what the result was.
whats even sadder, that if the coach lot hadn't all been sitting together singing at the back, who would have been providing any singing at all? the yoof were very quiet indeed.
I loved the "Charlton" to amazing grace that sounded like a funeral march, soooo sloooooow.
[cite]Posted By: Ketman[/cite]. All TRUE charlton fans were singing at Portman Road on Saturday FACT.
REAL fans went to Burnley. Ipswich was for day trippers who needed a coach organised to get them there.
PS I've been supporting Charlton for 42 years and I do know that it's "And if you know there's gonna be a show then the famous Charlton FC will there (will be there)"
PS I've been supporting Charlton for 42 years and I do know that it's "And if you know there's gonna be a show then the famous Charlton FC will there (will be there)"
Len, thats not true and you know it. You're in that category and you're welcome to attend :-)
Hehe just kidding. i know i've used sweeping generalisations, but not everyone was on the lively coach (49 people - a small percentage of the 2k that went to the match) not everyone had been drinking all day, we all just wanted to get a bit of an atmosphere and a bit of support to the team. Sitting down singing can be done, i haven't once complained about sitting down, thats fair do's, i can still sing, i object to being stared at by fellow supporters for joining in with Valley Floyd Road though!!!! Thats ridiculous!!!
[cite]Posted By: LenGlover[/cite]From reading the above it appears that those above a certain age aren't allowed to go then?
Unless they get drunk, abuse fellow fans and stand up blocking other people's view of course which appears to be de rigeur behaviour on away trips!
Len I don't think you're reading this right if that's what you've surmised from this.
What most people here have said is that its no issue if you want to go away and not join in with the "shenanigans", but why go away if you're just going to sit there and bad mouth the team from the 10th minute on?
Suzie has already said that the only people that stood (me included) were at the back and therefore not blocking anyones view. And for the record the guys in front of me, NLA, NSS & Jnr NSS and were younger than me
Fair enough, I guess thats true enough, as they wouldn't have paid their money and made the effort to go, its just baffling the way some people show how much they care.
I don't mind people going and being schtum all game per se.
But as soon as they start moaning and lambasting the team (as well as making the singers feel a touch uncomfortable with dodgy looks etc) without giving a single ounce of support for 90 minutes it really gets my (and gumbo's) goat.
PS I've been supporting Charlton for 42 years and I do know that it's "And if you know there's gonna be a show then the famous Charlton FC will there (will be there)"
You're the only person over 60 that does ;0)
You'll be old yourself soon. Very soon. : - )
And can someone tell the singers that after
"When we get promotion
this is what we sing"
You don't repeat the song but should sing
"We are Charlton
Super Charlton
Pride of South London"
Not that I can imagine many songs about "up the football league we go" being sung for a while.
Thing is the Older generation should know better, was watching ITV4 yesterday 1983 the Big Match, everyone standing at games, singing, swaying & charging up & down the terraces (Happy memories). It ain't just the players that are pampered these days :-)
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haha, i was sat next to Ms Latimer, Les was the other side of her. smart arse. :-)
as previously stated, the crowds average age was about 65 and hardly anybody wanted to sing (where i was anyway). Why would you bother travelling away to sit there?
Our support is fcuking embarrasing!
Mate I have to agree. They are everything that is wrong with this club these days. Fans that have either forgotten what it used to be like or just weren't around in the bad days, but because they've been paying their money since 2000, think they have a divine right to slag off everything about the club and bollox to anyone else. BS! If you don't like it then don't go, but please stop spoiling it for the rest of us......
Mind you looking back on the goading of them for 15/20mins with us 3 blaming Matt Holland for anything that went wrong, very loudly and very sarcastically was funny....
must say more players came over and they got quite a loud round of applause as fans were leaving than they have at either home games or away games in recent weeks. it wasn't just matt holland that came over either.
like i said, mine and others generalisations can be wrong, but when you're sitting completely surrounded by people who are unmoved for the disallowed goals, not even clap a single time, for any good move we did (believe it or not there were lots of them on saturday, they just were followed by crap moves) then I fail to see what enjoyment they are getting out of it.
I don't know your dad, and I don't know if he is a silent supporter, a rowdy supporter or just a normal, watch the game, get behind the team, have a little grumble, clap along every now and then type person. so sorry for generalising, but there were a large amount of people there on Saturday that might as well have been at home listening on the radio for all the emotion they showed.
To be honest, people got involved with "Ipswich Family" but that is just because they can clap a couple of times. Me and Smudge kept "Alan Pardew's Red & White Army" going for a while but nobody can be bothered and it gets so depressing, even the yoof to the right were quiet.
Did the 'bouncy' put in an appearance?
Doffed cap to NSS for singing "Peter Varney's....." for about 20mins non stop whilst all about us tucked into their Jaffa Cakes and I was trying to stop NLA from killing the bloke in front of him ;-)
Unless they get drunk, abuse fellow fans and stand up blocking other people's view of course which appears to be de rigeur behaviour on away trips!
I loved the "Charlton" to amazing grace that sounded like a funeral march, soooo sloooooow.
But it's ok to be old, miserable and abuse the team
REAL fans went to Burnley. Ipswich was for day trippers who needed a coach organised to get them there.
PS I've been supporting Charlton for 42 years and I do know that it's "And if you know there's gonna be a show then the famous Charlton FC will there (will be there)"
You're the only person over 60 that does ;0)
Hehe just kidding. i know i've used sweeping generalisations, but not everyone was on the lively coach (49 people - a small percentage of the 2k that went to the match) not everyone had been drinking all day, we all just wanted to get a bit of an atmosphere and a bit of support to the team. Sitting down singing can be done, i haven't once complained about sitting down, thats fair do's, i can still sing, i object to being stared at by fellow supporters for joining in with Valley Floyd Road though!!!! Thats ridiculous!!!
Len I don't think you're reading this right if that's what you've surmised from this.
What most people here have said is that its no issue if you want to go away and not join in with the "shenanigans", but why go away if you're just going to sit there and bad mouth the team from the 10th minute on?
Suzie has already said that the only people that stood (me included) were at the back and therefore not blocking anyones view. And for the record the guys in front of me, NLA, NSS & Jnr NSS and were younger than me
Fair enough, I guess thats true enough, as they wouldn't have paid their money and made the effort to go, its just baffling the way some people show how much they care.
But as soon as they start moaning and lambasting the team (as well as making the singers feel a touch uncomfortable with dodgy looks etc) without giving a single ounce of support for 90 minutes it really gets my (and gumbo's) goat.
You'll be old yourself soon. Very soon. : - )
And can someone tell the singers that after
"When we get promotion
this is what we sing"
You don't repeat the song but should sing
"We are Charlton
Super Charlton
Pride of South London"
Not that I can imagine many songs about "up the football league we go" being sung for a while.