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We have got a problem a big problem

For the 1st time this season i went to the game hoping for a win and a great performance but not actually hopefull of getting one. We got a decent performance yesterday we played better than ipswich for the whole game imo and i was not leathered either i believe we did not deserve to loose.

firstly Weaver should have caught the ball not punched it JT should have closed down the defender but it was a CROSS he did not mean to do that it was a shite cross that caught everyone out and sneaked in.

Then we hit the bar should have had a pen and then it started the cancer of our club raised its head.

Get zz off pards he is s**t

You are useless Pardew f**k O**

well game on i thought i couldnt hold back any more and launched into the fella verbally i will add thankfully NSS and Charlton Dan were calmer than me.

when i asked who should replace ZZ i was told Ambrose Y should ZZ not be playing because he is knackerd,

then had the ball in the net great ball from ZZ to Ambrose yeah mate he looks knackered to me.

then constant b****x begain to exit the mouth of him and his so called addicks mates we are half hr into a game with cracking away support singing and making Ipswich sound like the valley no home noise but plenty of away noise we have just had our noise clipped a bit due to their goal

What i couldnt get was how people can go to an away game be watching the same as me allegely want the same result at me but be so negative instead of getting behind the team.

2nd half was much of the same lots of posession another disalowed goal wasted chances atleast 1 pen denied lots of piss poor decisions from the ref and lino but at the final whistle we had not defended good enough and they had scored again.

but i didnt realy have the result on my mind

so far yesterday

1 its ZZ's fault
2. Its Hollands fault
3.Pardews Fault
4, Murrays Fault
5. Boards fault
6. Best one yet my fault that i had ruined their day not allowing them to bleat and slag off a teamthat was trying trying to get back into our favour



we ruined their day because we did resort to school boy abuse and ridicalling every comment that came out of their mouths if any of you are reading this that was doing it and that was involved in what happenend at the back of the away end thank your lucky stars that there were children in our company and police presence (by the way was the best OB at any match i have been to well done Ipswich OB we wont sing about Your sisters being your mothers or that we have more ladies of the night than you until next season any way) because believe me you got to me enough that a few years back i would have taken a nicking for you and if you see Charlton Dan buy him a beer cos you were very close.

NSS summed it perfectly and although he did nearly kill himself with Peter Varneys Red and White Army songs i must admit the most poinient of the day was

"WHERE were you when we were shit" and maybe a few of the slagging off brigade should remember that
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  • Well said mate, I couldn't keep my mouth shut when the gobshite in front of us who had been silent and non plussed by trying to get behind the team decided abusing Halford was the way to back the team. Hadn't made a sound then puts so much energy into slagging!

    It just don't make no sense to me
  • They did not sing ONE song of encouragement all game not ONE not even CAFC CAFC CAFC which by the way i dont recall hearing except on the lifers coach
  • "I pay my money and I've been coming for 103 years so I'm allowed to moan"
  • Henners MCS knew one of em and said he had been coming for years however most of them said they wont renew next year so they can go back and moan at spurs
  • I'm only happy when i'm moaning!

    All this getting behind the team is a load of ballcocks anyway.Barnsley could be on their way to a cup final and they only get 3000 odd at ashton gate.

    ;-)
  • NLA spot on mate its amazing how much they need a beat to sing i had to bang on that tin which hurt my handy pandy's
  • [cite]Posted By: nth london addick[/cite]

    Then we hit the bar should have had a pen and then it started the cancer of our club raised its head.

    Well described.

    Rothko, always the model of calmness, and I also had a go at some old moaner as well, who spent half the first half with his arms crossed complaining. And yes, he did give it the "I've been coming 50 years and..." bollocks as well. We started taking the mickey out of him, then we just resorted to having a go.

    I suggested he went home, unfortunately he and his wife sat somewhere else to piss some other people off.

    It's not our performances that put me off going to away games, it's dealing with tossers like that.
  • edited March 2008
    [cite]Posted By: InspectorSands[/cite]

    Rothko, always the model of calmness, .

    Is there another person called Rothko then that I don't know? : - )


    I think that the moaning is an inbuilt defence mechanism for some fans, especially those who've been going for 50 years to cope with the regular disappointments of following Charlton.

    Still gets on my tits, mind.
  • i have waited all season to have people like that near me and at last my prayers were answered i knew i was right when a lady approached me with her 2 sons . she was about 40ish and very well spoken and calm and she told me that 4 times this season she has moved away from the same men at away games because she couldnt bear to listen to people who can not support the team.

    she said she thought she was the only one who disagreed with them as most people just ignored them where she told them what she thought
  • edited March 2008
    [cite]Posted By: nth london addick[/cite]Then we hit the bar should have had a pen and then it started the cancer of our club raised its head.

    Mate, I thought the post was spot on bar the exception of the above comment.

    To liken to some fans with an opposing view point to a terminal illness that is the biggest killer in the UK is, dare I suggest, extremely harsh and insensitive.
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  • Not at all, cunningstunt - a cancer is something which kills from within. And that's just what our moaning supporters are doing.
  • Quite why some people would want to spend their money and time on going home/away to not support the team is beyond me! - Whats the point???
  • edited March 2008
    Mate I have suffered at the hands of the big C with both me old man and my father inlaw and it is not a thing i would aim lightly and if it offends i appologise but i agree with inspecter sands there are people from within trying to kill our club and ruin the support that most give it
  • The tumour from within is what NLA was getting at
  • I'll be honest Inspector, I wasn't at the game yesterday and I haven't done an away game all season.

    However, reading through the above posts, it would appear to be a minority that were abusing players with the majority shouting them down. If I'm right in this, then I think the author's use of the word cancer is a touch over the top, as the effect would be minimal. Even in the event that it was a majority, with the minority trying to stand their ground, I would still argue that the use of the word "cancer" in the context it was used would still be harsh.

    Either way, I fully support the authors logical viewpoint that away supporters should be vocal in supporting the team regardless of the teams performance.
  • Two things from yesterday, the performance on the pitch was pretty good, we just can't buy or loan a goal at the moment, secondly the support in the main was shite.

    and that bloke, grrr
  • NLA, no offence taken. I just thought it was a little strongly worded. As I mentioned above though I agree entirely with the overall article.
  • It is harsh mate i agree but i am trying to make those that do it sit up and look at themselves

    we are cack at the moment but we have been worse i got a sense of satisfaction when the majority of fans applauded a team that tried yesterday
  • Support was very poor vocally.

    The nice steward told me the two things they don't tolerate being sung (prostitutes and incest) I asked if bestiality was okay but apparently thats not one of their things either. Gumbo and his wife would not be tolerated.

    I thought the plod there were excellent and used a lot of common.

    The other steward who Stu asked to sit down obviously hadn't had his weetabix becuase he didn't see the funny side!
  • I think we all agree this is a problem that didn't only happend yesterday, the noise and attuded at the valley is going the same way but what can we do to stop this and support the team better?
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  • I am surprised that nobody has mentioned how bad the Ipswich home crowd atmosphere was.

    I appreciate the Valley could be better but with a similar size crowd and stadium and with them getting 2 of the sort of goals that we would dream of at the moment it was still very flat.

    Perhaps we were in the game more than we thought.
  • It was very quiet, underlined by the fact that they are using music after goals to get the crowd to respond. Geeeeez
  • [cite]Posted By: Carter[/cite]It was very quiet, underlined by the fact that they are using music after goals to get the crowd to respond. Geeeeez

    The height of shame!
  • Another cancerous thing about Saturday, the fans chanting we're shit and we know we are. What the fuck?
  • edited March 2008
    I sat down the front im the so called "family enclosure" with my lad and I thought the singing was pretty good. I had a bloke sitting near me who kept shouting out "change it now Pardew", which really really got on my tits.

    I think Henry is right, it all goes back to the old days. Its the "Glicksten out" mob rearing their ugly heads. We were playing Ok. not at all like the Preston game. We needed a break and didn't get one. Their first was ar*ehole lucky, just after we hit the woodwork and it went on from there.

    What was most disappointing in the second half was that the second round of inflatable fish were launched just in time for their second goal, which kind of put a damper on things....:-) I suppose you could say that things deflated after that.....coat please!!!!
  • il put it on for you bing.
  • [cite]Posted By: Imissthepeanutman[/cite]I am surprised that nobody has mentioned how bad the Ipswich home crowd atmosphere was.

    Funny that, wasn't it? Kuqi's introduction brought thunderous applause and cheers, far louder than Ipswich's goals. I just put it down to accoustics.
  • I put it down to the fact that they still couldn't really believe that they had only lost one home game all season.
  • Whats that hanging out of his shorts

    is it is his hamstring is it his hamstring
  • I had to check the guy next to me hadn't passed away midway through the first half. he didn't even blink.

    I got to my seat about a minute before kick off. it kicked off, everyone sat down around me, I had an old fella behind me, so sat down as it was the done thing to do, and started joining in with 'valley floyd road' the guy to the right of me looked at me as if i'd just stepped off a space ship from mars!?!

    what was wrong with half that crowd. baffling and not enjoyable at all. Do these people actually go for the enjoyment? I can't understand it. the average age of the crowd was 65. the old fella behind me was getting right into it, not particularly loud and wasn't singing, but clapped along and shouted as loud as he could constructive comments and criticism when it was due, mainly "get onside lita" over and over and over again, but all fully justified.
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