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POST-MATCH THREAD: Queens Park Rangers v Charlton Athletic: Saturday 30th August 2025: KO 12:30pm

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  • Can't wait for Godden to return. Such a class act, we need his nous, constant pressing and striker's instinct.
    Undeniably a poor Charlton performance but, for what it's worth, I think QPR will finish below us.
  • PWR

    My wife lost her sunglasses in one of the cars we test drived today.

    I reckon that a lot of you lost your Charlton rose tinted glasses today. Some of the expectations on here, and enthusiasm over our signings from League One in the summer, and our football over recent weeks have been laughable despite other more realistic posters, including me, getting lots of lols.

    I want us to stay up but I’ve been prepared for a battle since before the season started. 

    It’s not doom and gloom. It’s realism. 


    Do you think we can stay up? 
  • 1968CAFC said:
    We need a proper striker and another midfielder 
    we give away goals and cannot score!
    it’s early days yes, and I think we will stay up in our first season back, if we take note of these issues.
    unfortunately we have suffered in the hands of
    wanker referees in three games 👎👎defe
    Do we? Before today we'd conceded 1 goal in 3 games and it was an absolute screamer. Today wasn't great defensively but so far it was an anomaly
         Respectfully you make a fair point.
         Let us hope after 10 games in you are right ?
  • 1968CAFC said:
    1968CAFC said:
    We need a proper striker and another midfielder 
    we give away goals and cannot score!
    it’s early days yes, and I think we will stay up in our first season back, if we take note of these issues.
    unfortunately we have suffered in the hands of
    wanker referees in three games 👎👎defe
    Do we? Before today we'd conceded 1 goal in 3 games and it was an absolute screamer. Today wasn't great defensively but so far it was an anomaly
         Respectfully you make a fair point.
         Let us hope after 10 games in you are right ?
    Yep, let's hope so!
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  • 2 goals from the type of player we don't have .. a midfielder running straight at the defence for many yards before passing into the net, and a striker who can get a shot on target

    In general we were very poor today all over the pitch including our usually solid defence
    Let's hope this was an aberration and not the start of a total loss of form and confidence
  • I do think the biggest gap in our transfer window (other than a RWB cover) is that alternative to Campbell in that winger/striker positioning. 

    If Tanto is supposed to be that cover, he has barely played on the left-hand side last season. Think we'd have been better off getting another winger that likes to cut in instead so that Campbell could be benched if needed for a like-for-like replacement. 
  • Some of the comments from the end of the match thread are brilliant. It really wasn’t dogshit or horrendous.

    We lost 3-1 in the championship. The 3rd goal was as we pushed in the final stages - always a risk.

    we clearly need some attention focussed on attacking threat but if Leaburn hits that under the bar in the first half it’s a different game.

    We’ll lose a lot more this season, but we’ll win some as well. 

    Some balance and perspective will definitely help some cope with a Saturday afternoons football.
    A few of our fans are getting a reality check and don’t like it. And the usual over reaction to every defeat swiftly follows. 

    If the players were naive today so have many of our fans been.

    This is a tough, tough division and a large proportion of our squad are making the significant step up from League One for the first time.

    We spent a bit of dosh but we are rebuilding a squad that just two seasons ago included many players that are now playing in League Two.

    A bit of momentum and a surprise element got us through the the first few games. Now teams have seen what we’re about and can plan for it. Now the slog starts.

    The team needs to learn lessons fast and sharpen up 10% in most areas. Jones will know what’s required and will be working tirelessly to get the players to the levels needed.

    This side will battle away and won’t be out worked often but quality will be lacking at times, individual errors will happen, and we’re are going to lose plenty of matches.

    That, really, should be fully expected. Doesn’t mean every defeat is a sign the sky is falling in or all our players are shit. 

    A few fans need a bit of a mindset shift because the team are going to need us behind them not on their backs. 

    Anything 21st or higher remains a successful season. 
    Kind of what I wanted to say but more diplomatically. 
  • Didn't see the game & haven't seen much of Kelman this season (hardly surprising when NJ leaves him on the bench)so not having a dig at him but I do wonder as I did when we signed him, whether we should have gone out & spent as much as we could on an experienced quality striker proven at this level rather than someone totally unproven in the championship. We knew there would be a big step up in quality & games would be tight, we needed a striker we knew would do the business. Kelman or Leaburn may well go on & develop into decent goal scorers, problem is we need one now.
    I think a few of this season's signings were bought with an eye on possible future sell on fees if they make the step up.
    Whoopee Do. 

    So we get relegated & then sell players. Then start yet another rebuild.

    Cant wait 🙄
  • Didn't see the game & haven't seen much of Kelman this season (hardly surprising when NJ leaves him on the bench)so not having a dig at him but I do wonder as I did when we signed him, whether we should have gone out & spent as much as we could on an experienced quality striker proven at this level rather than someone totally unproven in the championship. We knew there would be a big step up in quality & games would be tight, we needed a striker we knew would do the business. Kelman or Leaburn may well go on & develop into decent goal scorers, problem is we need one now.
    I think a few of this season's signings were bought with an eye on possible future sell on fees if they make the step up.
    Whoopee Do. 

    So we get relegated & then sell players. Then start yet another rebuild.

    Cant wait 🙄
    You genuinely are a bit of a knob aren't you fella
  • It makes Tuesday even odder knowing we had the international break after today. Players didn’t look sharp. We live and learn… 
    How many of our players are away on International duty ? I know TC got called up, anyone else ?

    Asking because if I was the manager I would be training & using the players that are here over the next 2 weeks. Good time to drop TC. Maybe play a different system against Millwall.....but whatever, dont go into that game with players who have been away & not trained or practiced the tactics for this one.

  • Joint 2nd worst. Only not joint worst to 96/97 season which was so long ago you probably were only allowed 3 subs on the bench. 

    I wonder if we changed all 11 players for the League Cup that season too 🤔.
  • wolfgang said:
    BigDiddy said:
    It's funny. We got promoted because our defense were excellent and kept a lot of clean sheets. 

    So we change up the defense with new recruitment and largely keep the midfield and attack the same (in the starting line-up). 

    We don't have enough quality in the final third and, whilst that remains, we will struggle this year. 
    Listened but haven't seen the game. Did the forwards get enough quality ball ? Maybe its not their fult
    I don’t blame our forwards as I think our real problem is the midfield ...


    I don't know if our forwards are good enough or not. I do know it is unfair to judge them until we can field a competent midfield. Most teams can put together three or four passes in midfield before laying on a chance. We don't even try to do that. Just bang it forward hoping someone can get on the end of it. That worked in League One and, to some extent in our first three games this time round, but other clubs will soon get wise to it as QPR did today to nullify most clear chances for us.
    Thats the point - Kelman needs service and support.  He has had neither.

    I say our lack of an offensive, attacking midfielder is a problem and Tyreece and Apter are limited. That was a bad defeat against a very bad team - that is the worry.

    The owners will need to spend some serious money to keep us in this league, or get us back up if we get relegated

    I doubt we will do anything against Millwall, so the season starts the week after that game.
  • I think we all new that the championship was a much tougher league than league one and so it's proving. 
    We have pretty much a full squad to choose from and we've just been beat by a side that lost 7 1 last Saturday. 
    We simply must be more clinical in our finishing than we currently have been. 
    NJ has 5 strikers to choose from and he has to work out our best partnership up front. 
    I'm not going to join in the pile on regarding Campbell as he's only 20 and still learning,  but I believe he needs a spell on the bench and give others a chance to start.
    We will I'm sure learn from games like today and as long as we stay up that's fine by me. 
    Completely agree mate. I actually think TC could be a cracking impact sub and could be a brilliant way of getting some confidence and belief into him! Tanto deserves a chance in the same role.
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  • The Campbell hate is getting ridiculous. People making out he was our worst player when that wasn't even remotely true. He would lose an attacking threat by not having him in the team.

    Someone in the player marks gave him a 3. What game are you watching.
    It's funny isn't it, the opposition fans so far have consistently said that Campbell was our biggest threat and they were worried when he was on the ball but all a weird number of our fans do is screech at him. This happens sometimes to academy products in particular. Campbell's been accused of being both lazy and uninterested AND needing to be the centre of attention in another thread, it's just whatever people can think of to throw at him. Such odd behaviour.

  • Can't wait for Godden to return. Such a class act, we need his nous, constant pressing and striker's instinct.
    Undeniably a poor Charlton performance but, for what it's worth, I think QPR will finish below us.
    We cant rely on Godden or Berry - age and fitness will limit their appearances.


  • Those in the ground who wanted him off almost as soon as we kicked off . Get that shit off was shouted next to me !!
  • It makes Tuesday even odder knowing we had the international break after today. Players didn’t look sharp. We live and learn… 
    How many of our players are away on International duty ? I know TC got called up, anyone else ?

    Asking because if I was the manager I would be training & using the players that are here over the next 2 weeks. Good time to drop TC. Maybe play a different system against Millwall.....but whatever, dont go into that game with players who have been away & not trained or practiced the tactics for this one.
    Bell and Anderson as far as I'm aware. Don't think there's anyone else 
  • IR94 said:
    Makes the decision to throw the cup game even more baffling
    How does it? - QPR didn't even play in the League Cup this midweek and looked even more up for it
  • IR94 said:
    Makes the decision to throw the cup game even more baffling
    How does it? - QPR didn't even play in the League Cup this midweek and looked even more up for it
    Apparently it would have meant we had momentum coming in to today’s game despite most of today’s starting 11 having not featured 
  • edited August 30
    IR94 said:
    Makes the decision to throw the cup game even more baffling
    How does it? - QPR didn't even play in the League Cup this midweek and looked even more up for it
    Apparently it would have meant we had momentum coming in to today’s game despite most of today’s starting 11 having not featured 
    I mean the alternative is we could have played a handful of the eleven from today, on Tuesday... But then it would be a slightly more tired Charlton team as a whole, facing a completely fresh QPR who were wanting to pay back the Manager after the 7-1 defeat from the weekend before... THAT was the problem going into this match.
  • The Campbell hate is getting ridiculous. People making out he was our worst player when that wasn't even remotely true. He would lose an attacking threat by not having him in the team.

    Someone in the player marks gave him a 3. What game are you watching.
    It's funny isn't it, the opposition fans so far have consistently said that Campbell was our biggest threat and they were worried when he was on the ball but all a weird number of our fans do is screech at him. This happens sometimes to academy products in particular. Campbell's been accused of being both lazy and uninterested AND needing to be the centre of attention in another thread, it's just whatever people can think of to throw at him. Such odd behaviour.
    Totally agree. The flak he gets grinds my gears.
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