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POST-MATCH THREAD: Queens Park Rangers v Charlton Athletic: Saturday 30th August 2025: KO 12:30pm

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  • kentred2 said:
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    Had to dash off did ya...😉
  • edited August 31
    NabySarr said:
    swordfish said:
    After sleeping on it, feel much better this morning. 

    We didn't perform well yesterday, yet still created a lot of chances, and QPR game plan to stop us, was to be over physical, where we ended up winning 16 free kicks! 

    Once we click in final third and start getting the ball in the net more frequently, we will be fine and start hurting sides more. 

    The fact we are disappointed with yesterday's performance and result, yet we are still in 16th says a lot. 
    I'm not sure being 16th at the end of August says a lot and wonder if 4 games in is enough to answer questions about our ability to compete at this level, even if it is all we have to go on so far. 
    It’s way too early to be judging the team, manager or individual players. We’ve also not had the easiest first 4 games and done pretty well overall in terms of performances. We are going to lose quite a few games this season so fans need to get used to it 

    Yes, you are correct and some respected independent football folk said if the fans/supporters and especially the critics of CAFC can accept Charlton could well lose 18 to 20 matches then they will stay up as long as they have enough wins to get to the mid 50 point level.

    This from 24/25 Championship table after 46 games.

    QPR W14 D14 L18 PTS 56.  Position 15
    Pompey W14 D12 L20 PTS 54 Position 16

    So if CAFC finish 15th and 16th Charlton fans would still moan in our 1st season back ?

    We weren't good enough yesterday with so many basic facets of the game and it's for Nathan to sort out.
    Ironically we had plenty of the possession but the quality was few and far between with the delivery.
  • Okay 4 points from 4 games...no issue....but Nathan has to surely understand thar the midfield is not right. Is Knibbs or Costello the answer? Who knows...they've had zero minutes in 4 league games.

    As for Kelman I've re-watched his goals from last season and he's had literally no service like then. So, either Nathan wants to change his whole game or, he now realises that the current midfielders playing cannot give him what he needs.

    In my opinion Nathan must realise that he needs to seriously think of changing the formation and personnel.

    I hope/expect some changes against the Wall and would like to see Tanto, Kelman, Costello and Knibbs play more minutes than they've had and then give it a few games to see if things can get better.....
    If that doesn't work then we can panic.

     We knew this wasn't going to be easy just look how many teams got promoted then relegated the next year. Let's keep the faith and stop the nitpicking/slating of players please it's not needed after just 4 flipping games.
  • Leuth said:
    Utterly embarrassing how we've collectively shat the bed. We had the better of that game and were done against the run of play. It happens. This site is painful sometimes 
    Their second goal was against the run of play, but in the first half they were completely dominant. We could easily have been 2 goals down at HT.
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  • Okay 4 points from 4 games...no issue....but Nathan has to surely understand thar the midfield is not right. Is Knibbs or Costello the answer? Who knows...they've had zero minutes in 4 league games.

    As for Kelman I've re-watched his goals from last season and he's had literally no service like then. So, either Nathan wants to change his whole game or, he now realises that the current midfielders playing cannot give him what he needs.

    In my opinion Nathan must realise that he needs to seriously think of changing the formation and personnel.

    I hope/expect some changes against the Wall and would like to see Tanto, Kelman, Costello and Knibbs play more minutes than they've had and then give it a few games to see if things can get better.....
    If that doesn't work then we can panic.

     We knew this wasn't going to be easy just look how many teams got promoted then relegated the next year. Let's keep the faith and stop the nitpicking/slating of players please it's not needed after just 4 flipping games.
    I think the point about service to Kelman is a valid one, and agree with Braziliance further up that without Donley and Galbraith-type players behind and around, then our other midfield players, and he himself, will have to adapt, and that's likely to be a long term issue, unless we sign some magical player(s) in the next 24 hours or so. I would of thought we have enough with Carey, Apter, and TC (professional footballers lets be clear) who should be able to find a pass. Yet some, very limited, evidence to date suggests they might not have it in them! Too early to be sure, imo.

    More importantly, the spelling of Millwall, can i pick you up on that?!
    ;)
    Apologies Swords, just couldn't bring myself to say ***wall, probably should've gone with scum!
  • Personally find it far more embarrassing when people get sensitive over people sharing negative match reviews, it's part of football. 

    What do we want, an echo chamber of constant positivity even when we lose?

    The performance was shit, it is ok to say that and talk about it. 
    No problem with negative or positive match reviews, everyone has their own level of pessimism and optimism, and that's always going to skew the way you see a game. 

    The problem is those who take negativity to a ridiculous level, and start talking about needing 3-4 players before Monday or we're going to relegated. That's just an example. There's other posts like that since yesterday, and it's just not required. 

    We weren't up to it yesterday and it wasn't good enough. But, that's one game from four that you can say that. Posters throwing toys out of the pram after one bad loss is unnecessary. 
  • Okay 4 points from 4 games...no issue....but Nathan has to surely understand thar the midfield is not right. Is Knibbs or Costello the answer? Who knows...they've had zero minutes in 4 league games.

    As for Kelman I've re-watched his goals from last season and he's had literally no service like then. So, either Nathan wants to change his whole game or, he now realises that the current midfielders playing cannot give him what he needs.

    In my opinion Nathan must realise that he needs to seriously think of changing the formation and personnel.

    I hope/expect some changes against the Wall and would like to see Tanto, Kelman, Costello and Knibbs play more minutes than they've had and then give it a few games to see if things can get better.....
    If that doesn't work then we can panic.

     We knew this wasn't going to be easy just look how many teams got promoted then relegated the next year. Let's keep the faith and stop the nitpicking/slating of players please it's not needed after just 4 flipping games.
    I think the point about service to Kelman is a valid one, and agree with Braziliance further up that without Donley and Galbraith-type players behind and around, then our other midfield players, and he himself, will have to adapt, and that's likely to be a long term issue, unless we sign some magical player(s) in the next 24 hours or so. I would of thought we have enough with Carey, Apter, and TC (professional footballers lets be clear) who should be able to find a pass. Yet some, very limited, evidence to date suggests they might not have it in them! Too early to be sure, imo.

    It's very hard to change a team's way of playing to adapt to one player. Besides, I'm not sure NJ teams have ever been the sort of passing side that Kelman at Orient thrived in...
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    Shit area 
    shit ground 

    free pie and pint at ht was great. 
  • JohnnyH2 said:
    fenaddick said:
    Personally find it far more embarrassing when people get sensitive over people sharing negative match reviews, it's part of football. 

    What do we want, an echo chamber of constant positivity even when we lose?

    The performance was shit, it is ok to say that and talk about it. 
    Not sure people disagreeing is overly sensitive. It wasn’t fantastic but it also wasn’t shit. 2 out of our back 3 had their worst game of the season, Coventry was on a tight rope because of an early booking and our usually threatening set pieces were poor. Despite that we still nearly came away with at least one point against an established Championship team away from home. I’m not saying it was perfect and we should all be delighted but there’s some middle ground there that people seem allergic to. 
    It is sensitive imo. Always the same on here. When things are going well it's all a bit lego movie, everything is awesome. We play poor and someone talks about it, and you get people saying how embarrassing it is. 

    It is the most normal thing in football to discuss a game positively or negatively. It's passion. 

    I feel like your view is very different to mine on this game. You have said we didn't play shit, but then described a number of factors as to why it could be seen as a shit performance.

    We didn't deserve anything from that game. Leicester yes, definitely, Bristol City yes, this game no. QPR defended well and had their tactics spot on, we offered nothing really and came away with nothing. 

    Play like that against Millwall and they will genuinely run riot, they're a much better side than QPR.
    Snoring is what happens under the duvet  
    Correction
  • JohnnyH2 said:
    fenaddick said:
    Personally find it far more embarrassing when people get sensitive over people sharing negative match reviews, it's part of football. 

    What do we want, an echo chamber of constant positivity even when we lose?

    The performance was shit, it is ok to say that and talk about it. 
    Not sure people disagreeing is overly sensitive. It wasn’t fantastic but it also wasn’t shit. 2 out of our back 3 had their worst game of the season, Coventry was on a tight rope because of an early booking and our usually threatening set pieces were poor. Despite that we still nearly came away with at least one point against an established Championship team away from home. I’m not saying it was perfect and we should all be delighted but there’s some middle ground there that people seem allergic to. 
    It is sensitive imo. Always the same on here. When things are going well it's all a bit lego movie, everything is awesome. We play poor and someone talks about it, and you get people saying how embarrassing it is. 

    It is the most normal thing in football to discuss a game positively or negatively. It's passion. 

    I feel like your view is very different to mine on this game. You have said we didn't play shit, but then described a number of factors as to why it could be seen as a shit performance.

    We didn't deserve anything from that game. Leicester yes, definitely, Bristol City yes, this game no. QPR defended well and had their tactics spot on, we offered nothing really and came away with nothing. 

    Play like that against Millwall and they will genuinely run riot, they're a much better side than QPR.
    Passion is what happens under the duvet,  This is a football club, our football club and when we lose it does not always need to be discussed negatively. This season is what happens over 46 league games, not 1
    I disagree. Fans play an important part whether that's positively or negatively. If you don't feel joy or anger towards results in football then what is the point in following a team. 

    I don't think anyone seriously believes our season is a write off because of one game? It is just yesterday highlighted some cause for concerns if we continue to play that way. Now it is a talking point on the post match thread. 

    Do we need two separate threads at this point if people are going to get offended by people being angry at Charlton losing. I genuinely don't get it.

    What...with three girlfriends...😉
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  • I remember what happened last season, started well, had dreadful end of year, NJ changed Ahadme for Godden and all was forgiven in the beginning of this year.
    Let us wait and see, at least give it 10 league games and see where we are.
    Beat Millwall and we are world beaters 😀
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  • "He who is not contented with what he has, would not be contented with what he would like to have."
    ...Socrates 
  • Some overzealous optimism after the Watford game has now been usurped by a rude dose of Championship reality, but there is no need for panic stations at this early stage.
    Although, I will sleep a lot better when Godden laces his boots up...

  • "He who is not contented with what he has, would not be contented with what he would like to have."
    ...Socrates 
    Funny you should say that We could do with a Socrates in midfield aswell not the philosopher mind : )
  • With a different ref we would have got a result. He let a lot go which QPR got the better end of. And NJ absolutely right to complain about the non-award of the second yellow. 
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