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POST-MATCH THREAD: Queens Park Rangers v Charlton Athletic: Saturday 30th August 2025: KO 12:30pm

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  • 2nd was a clear foul on TC who should have had a penalty when he stayed on his feet. Ref was dogshit. They should have been ten at the end and third wouldn't have happened.
  • It's funny. We got promoted because our defense were excellent and kept a lot of clean sheets. 

    So we change up the defense with new recruitment and largely keep the midfield and attack the same (in the starting line-up). 

    We don't have enough quality in the final third and, whilst that remains, we will struggle this year. 
    Listened but haven't seen the game. Did the forwards get enough quality ball ? Maybe its not their fult
  • It's funny. We got promoted because our defense were excellent and kept a lot of clean sheets. 

    So we change up the defense with new recruitment and largely keep the midfield and attack the same (in the starting line-up). 

    We don't have enough quality in the final third and, whilst that remains, we will struggle this year. 
    Listened but haven't seen the game. Did the forwards get enough quality ball ? Maybe its not their fult
    The final ball, especially from dead ball situations was shocking today, but a lot the arguments about our inability to score skirt around that

    We had two real chances from decent balls into the box, one we scored, the other Leaburn hit the bar
  • msomerton said:
    AndyG said:
    Just watched the 1st half of the Millwall game if we don’t step up they will tear through us like a knife through butter. Fortunately they don’t seem to be able to score from the build up play they create 

    Don't worry mate, we always up our game against the spanners.
    When was that
    Well, I'm praying for snow.....
    yep that is how long ago.
  • What happened at the Den to give them 20 minutes added time (with only 7 indicated)? Looks like the Wrexham keeper got subbed very late
    The keeper got cleaned out and was in a lot of pain either looked like shoulder or neck injury, lots of medics around him before he was eventually wheeled off on a stretcher.
  • It's funny. We got promoted because our defense were excellent and kept a lot of clean sheets. 

    So we change up the defense with new recruitment and largely keep the midfield and attack the same (in the starting line-up). 

    We don't have enough quality in the final third and, whilst that remains, we will struggle this year. 
    Listened but haven't seen the game. Did the forwards get enough quality ball ? Maybe its not their fult
    TC missed a header. Leaburn missed one of the best chances of the game by hitting the bar. Leaburn skied a shot at the edge of the area too. 

    Other than that, not a lot to show for our possession.
  • Start with 2 proper, out and out strikers in the next game.

    I want TC to do well but he just isnt doing it. Yes he set up the Apter goal but until then he done nothing. A darting run without end product is worth sod all. 
    What formation are you going to play if you start with 2 proper out & out strikers......because NJ isn't suddenly going to go 442.
    He doesn't need to go 442. Campbell was a striker alongside Leaburn..?

                                Kaminski

                    Ramsay Jones Bell
    Apter                                             Edwards 

                   Doc       Carey    Cov
     
                   Leaburn      Campbell

    And as Campbell isnt a proper striker, starting Tanto or Kelman would make more sense.
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  • masicat said:
    Rak Saki will be here on Monday. 
    What about Rak-Sakyi?
  • Was surprised by the subs, first at 60 minutes, when Jones normally waits until the players can’t even blow out their arse any more, then takes off our two best players.  Bringing more subs on at 87 and 92 does nothing for the team or the players brought on.  Thought we were lacking in all depts today, a bad day at the office, which happens, but our finishing and goals for need a major improvement or its gonna be a very long tough season.  But we kinda knew that……..
  • Start with 2 proper, out and out strikers in the next game.

    I want TC to do well but he just isnt doing it. Yes he set up the Apter goal but until then he done nothing. A darting run without end product is worth sod all. 
    What formation are you going to play if you start with 2 proper out & out strikers......because NJ isn't suddenly going to go 442.
    He doesn't need to go 442. Campbell was a striker alongside Leaburn..?

                                Kaminski

                    Ramsay Jones Bell
    Apter                                             Edwards 

                   Doc       Carey    Cov
     
                   Leaburn      Campbell

    And as Campbell isnt a proper striker, starting Tanto or Kelman would make more sense.
    Doing that we lose our pace, and ability to stretch the opposition... Its why TC is being "shoe-horned" into the team.

    Take Campbell out of the team, and I think people would quickly see how limited we are going forward, because teams will be able to double up on Edwards / Apter and stop them going forward entirely.

    Campbell is a nightmare, because as an opposition Defender, you dont know if he's going out wide, or down the middle
    But he isnt a "nightmare" enough. And when he is, he usually doesn't have an end product ( yes he got an assist today). We have played well against Bristol and Leicester and walked away with one point and whilst you can never say with a 100% certainty, I am confident that we would won at least one of those games with 2 proper strikers playing from the off. 

    Tanto isnt a slouch and is much stronger than him to keep the ball when running at defenders. Edwards and Apter are crossing and it is only Leaburn attacking the ball, TC doesn't have that Kelman/Godden ability to be near the ball to sniff out a chance if Leaburn wins a knock down. 

    He needs to do more and he isnt and how long "can he stretch a defence" if we aren't winning games?


  • A conventional 352 would work if we had Small at left wingback...
  • masicat said:
    Rak Saki will be here on Monday. 
    Here as in reading this thread?
  • edited August 30
    Strangely, Gillespie was instrumental in so many of our goals last season. Whether taking set pieces, scoring from set pieces, or accurate long balls for the forwards to run on to.
    He was also very calm and solid in defence.
    Bell has done nothing wrong, but if things don't change soon, from a goal scoring perspective, I think we should consider playing him again.
    It’s whether he can do the same at a higher level. Or might he be found out for pace and ability on the ball?
    BBC Sports App guy gave QPR an average of about 6.5 per player and us 4.5, which if seems a trifle harsh. Or have I got the rose tinted specs on? Probably the latter. . 
  • Didn't see the game & haven't seen much of Kelman this season (hardly surprising when NJ leaves him on the bench)so not having a dig at him but I do wonder as I did when we signed him, whether we should have gone out & spent as much as we could on an experienced quality striker proven at this level rather than someone totally unproven in the championship. We knew there would be a big step up in quality & games would be tight, we needed a striker we knew would do the business. Kelman or Leaburn may well go on & develop into decent goal scorers, problem is we need one now.
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  • It's funny. We got promoted because our defense were excellent and kept a lot of clean sheets. 

    So we change up the defense with new recruitment and largely keep the midfield and attack the same (in the starting line-up). 

    We don't have enough quality in the final third and, whilst that remains, we will struggle this year. 
    Listened but haven't seen the game. Did the forwards get enough quality ball ? Maybe its not their fult
    Delivery and final balls were shocking from all over our team.

    I don’t blame our forwards as I think our real problem is the midfield and wide areas.

    We also need more variation as we either rely on Jones to head the ball or we expect the long ball will be enough.
  • edited August 30
    masicat said:
    Rak Saki will be here on Monday. 
    Here as in reading this thread?
    Zero chance as they want £12m
  • Time for a change of system - it’s not working .  433, Goalie, Ramsay, Jones, Burke, Bell; JRC, Coventry, Knibbs; Apter, Kelman/Leaburn, Olaofe .  
  • edited August 30
    BigDiddy said:
    masicat said:
    Rak Saki will be here on Monday. 
    Here as in reading this thread?
    Zero chance as they want £12m
    But no one is paying or buying so maybe they will loan him instead of having him waste away on the bench again.of course someone might come in last minute but it's a risk for them if no one does also.
  • Steven81 said:
    BigDiddy said:
    masicat said:
    Rak Saki will be here on Monday. 
    Here as in reading this thread?
    Zero chance as they want £12m
    But no one is paying or buying so maybe they will loan him instead of having him waste away on the bench again.of course someone might come in last minute but it's a risk for them if no one does also.
    Be staggered if he came to us, but lets hope he does
  • BigDiddy said:
    Steven81 said:
    BigDiddy said:
    masicat said:
    Rak Saki will be here on Monday. 
    Here as in reading this thread?
    Zero chance as they want £12m
    But no one is paying or buying so maybe they will loan him instead of having him waste away on the bench again.of course someone might come in last minute but it's a risk for them if no one does also.
    Be staggered if he came to us, but lets hope he does
    Yeah don't get me wrong I would be aswell just think zero chance is not right there's atleast something above 1 percent : ) it would hardly be ground breaking considering we are in the championship.
  • A conventional 352 would work if we had Small at left wingback...
    Like it did last season?
  • I don't understand why JRS can't get into the Palace match day squad at the moment. It's not as if Palace are struggling with PSR and need to sell a home grown player.
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