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  • Zulu
    Zulu Posts: 190
    I looked at the last 2 Tests at the new Perth ground v India and Pakistan, and out of 75 wickets taken, only 8 were by spinners. A few of the AUS pundits that i have been watching have suggested that Lyon might not even be selected for this Test , however, due to Cummins and Hazlewood not playing, i would think thats now unlikely.
    My thought along these lines was that maybe ENG might have considering playing Jacks instead of Carse (especially now that Stokes seems to have settled (potentially) into that 4th pace bowling option ) however, that also now seems unlikely.

    Not long to go now !
  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 33,890
    MrOneLung said:
    Would rather have paddy and Leuth than Bashir 
    I still don't understand why our best limited overs spinner doesn't play. Can he only spin a white ball  ??
  • MarcusH26
    MarcusH26 Posts: 8,157
    Zulu said:
    MarcusH26 said:
    Was surprised Tom Haines even went with the Lions given he was in very scratchy form for the second half of the Champ, he's also never a Bazballer.
    Whereas McKinney is definitely a Bazballer.
    I'd be surprised if McKinney doesn't debut within the next year or so. Seems like he's earmarked for a spot at the top of the order. 
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 70,112
    Call me a cynic (and there's absolutely nothing wrong with this because all home teams produce pitches to suit their bowlers) but there's nothing to stop Australia preparing a couple of wickets for the final couple of Tests that are certain to turn. They have a world class spinner in Lyon plus another two or three part-timers and could even accommodate another frontline spinner with two seamers plus Webster and Green. Whereas we'd be forced to use, at best, Bashir, Root and Jacks. 
    Bashir would be really dangerous on a turning pitch. 

    His weakness is on unhelpful pitches, where he can't tie batsmen down and stop the run scoring.
  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 40,006
    MrOneLung said:
    Would rather have paddy and Leuth than Bashir 
    I still don't understand why our best limited overs spinner doesn't play. Can he only spin a white ball  ??
    He hasn't played red ball for years. He has a far more lucrative career in white ball for England and various franchises without the same sort of strain on the body.  
  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 40,006
    Call me a cynic (and there's absolutely nothing wrong with this because all home teams produce pitches to suit their bowlers) but there's nothing to stop Australia preparing a couple of wickets for the final couple of Tests that are certain to turn. They have a world class spinner in Lyon plus another two or three part-timers and could even accommodate another frontline spinner with two seamers plus Webster and Green. Whereas we'd be forced to use, at best, Bashir, Root and Jacks. 
    Bashir would be really dangerous on a turning pitch. 

    His weakness is on unhelpful pitches, where he can't tie batsmen down and stop the run scoring.
    Bashir is still a rookie in every respect and has yet to prove that he has gained the experience to take wickets and retain some element of control too, even on a turning track.

    Bashir vs Lyon

    Red ball career: 87 wickets @ 48.72 & ER of 3.70 vs 855 wickets at 32.16 & ER of 2.93

    In Tests:

    1st innings - 17 wickets at 46.64 & ER of 3.55 vs 208 wickets at 32.51 & ER of 3.13
    2nd innings - 21 wickets at 33.71 & ER of 3.57 vs 346 wickets at 33.64 & ER of 2.87
    3rd innings - 18 wickets at 44.22 & ER of 4.22 vs 232 wickets at 26.75 with ER of 2.96
    4th innings - 12 wickets at 29.22 & ER of 3.92 vs 303 wickets at 27.11 with ER of 2.81 

    In Asia - 26 wickets at 38.96 & ER of 3.51 vs 154 wickets at 30.05 with ER of 2.99



  • MarcusH26
    MarcusH26 Posts: 8,157
    With Rehan Ahmed ruled out with injury , that leaves the Lions with Tom Hartley who I don't understand why he's getting chances still and the ambidextrous spin of Ben Kellaway of Glamorgan. Wonder if they'll fly anyone else out.