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I just really hope it turns out to be an Ashes too far for a few of them. If a couple of them have stinkers it really sets us up well. I'd love it of we did to them what they did in 2013 and just end an era for them.Zulu said:Its quite a pivotal moment to realise that it will be extremely likely that most of the AUS players will not be playing in a Ashes Test series again...
Smith...36
Khawaja ...38
Starc...35
Boland...36
Lyon.....37
Hazlewood....34
Carey.....34
Dads Army !!
I'm convinced Khawaja is done and if they'd managed to replace Warner he wouldn't be playing. Ideally Lyon and one of the remaining quicks wont have it left in them, the rest below par.1 -
Much more important question. Anyone actually travelling in person to Australia to watch?Zulu said:Anyone else planning to be doing the nightshift at least for the first 2 Tests?
Papers reckon there will be 40,000 travelling. Probably not all for the whole series but still pretty insane numbers!1 -
A 2006/07 scenario I fear, where they have a final successful hoorah.Zulu said:Its quite a pivotal moment to realise that it will be extremely likely that most of the AUS players will not be playing in a Ashes Test series again...
Smith...36
Khawaja ...38
Starc...35
Boland...36
Lyon.....37
Hazlewood....34
Carey.....34
Dads Army !!
I strongly fancy us in the next home Ashes though.0 -
My prediction is an Australia win 4-1. I really can’t see how we are going to win more than one Test.1
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Yeh I’m going 4th n 5th testsFortune 82nd Minute said:
Much more important question. Anyone actually travelling in person to Australia to watch?Zulu said:Anyone else planning to be doing the nightshift at least for the first 2 Tests?
Papers reckon there will be 40,000 travelling. Probably not all for the whole series but still pretty insane numbers!
cant wait! Hopefully it won’t be all over by then…3 -
killerandflash said:Highest run scorer: Harry BrookMost wickets: Josh HazlewoodWill Root get a century? NoWhen will Cummins appear? 2rd testHow many tests will Archer manage? 3How many opening combos do Australia use? 3
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Can’t be dealing with the negative predictions
they are ageing and yes at home but I believe with the correct attitude and belief they are for the taking.
Root to wipe their smiles off
We are due a win so I’m going 1-3
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I admire your positivity but I'm not quite sure why you (and so many other people) are jumping on the age factor? Australia haven't been defeated in a Test series for almost three years and haven't lost one at home for five years. Since then they've won 27 and lost 8 Tests home and away and it was only ten months ago that they beat India 3-1. There will come a time when, individually and as a group, age will catch up with them but I'm not sure that they've quite reached that point yet.Uncle-Greenie said:Can’t be dealing with the negative predictions
they are ageing and yes at home but I believe with the correct attitude and belief they are for the taking.
Root to wipe their smiles off
We are due a win so I’m going 1-3
Much of the criticism of Australia is based on their underperforming batters and a batting order in total disarray, albeit that one or two of their big guns appear to be finding form at the right time and in home conditions too. Ours are at the complete opposite end of the spectrum, so far as experience is concerned, with Duckett, Bethell, Brook and Smith never having played red ball cricket at anything higher than club grade out there. Of the others, only Root (35.68) has an OK average in away Ashes with Crawley (27.66), Pope (11.16) and Stokes (28.61) hardly enjoying the sort of record to frighten the Aussie bowlers on their home turf.
Cummins is a big loss for them but we really can't afford to dismiss Boland's record at home - 49 wickets at 12.31 apiece with 18 of those wickets coming against us over there and another 21 in a series against India at the turn of this year. Equally, Doggett has taken 13 wickets at 14.69 this summer in the Sheffield Shield.
I hope I'm totally wrong and we thrash them but I do think that 3-1 to the Aussies is about right. That First Test will set the tone for the series and for that reason it is vital that we get out of the blocks running. At least we are blessed with not having Steve Harmison bowling the very first ball of the series.
Aside from Ashes predictions, it is great to hear that Ollie Robinson hasn't reacted like a scorned lover in not being in the England set up in taking time off from playing club cricket to bowl in the nets at Steve Smith. That's sure to mend broken bridges. With the Aussies anyway.
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Current Betfair odds for the Series:
Australia - 1.58 (63%)
England - 3.70 (27%)
Draw - 10.00 (10%)
And for the First Test:
Australia - 1.68 (59%)
England - 3.05 (33%)
Draw - 12.50 (8%)0 -
Wondering how many tests we get into the series until the Aussies try Fergus O'Neill. Massively impressive in the CC this season for Nottinghamshire in a brief spell. Perhaps ironically more suited to English conditions where he's not the quickest but swings it massively.0
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Both Hazlewood and Abbott were injured during the current round of Sheffield Shield matches. Abbott is out of the First Test but Hazlewood has been cleared to play.0
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The draw is the best bet there . I’m inclined to go for a 2-2Addick Addict said:Current Betfair odds for the Series:
Australia - 1.58 (63%)
England - 3.70 (27%)
Draw - 10.00 (10%)
And for the First Test:
Australia - 1.68 (59%)
England - 3.05 (33%)
Draw - 12.50 (8%)0 -
They only have one player (Cameron Green) who is younger than 31.Zulu said:Its quite a pivotal moment to realise that it will be extremely likely that most of the AUS players will not be playing in a Ashes Test series again...
Smith...36
Khawaja ...38
Starc...35
Boland...36
Lyon.....37
Hazlewood....34
Carey.....34
Dads Army !!0 -
We have to find some hope from somewhere mate! Let us have a little bit at least before the series starts, deep down we all know that come lunch on the first day it'll all be over but until then lets believe!Addick Addict said:
I admire your positivity but I'm not quite sure why you (and so many other people) are jumping on the age factor? Australia haven't been defeated in a Test series for almost three years and haven't lost one at home for five years. Since then they've won 27 and lost 8 Tests home and away and it was only ten months ago that they beat India 3-1. There will come a time when, individually and as a group, age will catch up with them but I'm not sure that they've quite reached that point yet.Uncle-Greenie said:Can’t be dealing with the negative predictions
they are ageing and yes at home but I believe with the correct attitude and belief they are for the taking.
Root to wipe their smiles off
We are due a win so I’m going 1-3
Much of the criticism of Australia is based on their underperforming batters and a batting order in total disarray, albeit that one or two of their big guns appear to be finding form at the right time and in home conditions too. Ours are at the complete opposite end of the spectrum, so far as experience is concerned, with Duckett, Bethell, Brook and Smith never having played red ball cricket at anything higher than club grade out there. Of the others, only Root (35.68) has an OK average in away Ashes with Crawley (27.66), Pope (11.16) and Stokes (28.61) hardly enjoying the sort of record to frighten the Aussie bowlers on their home turf.
Cummins is a big loss for them but we really can't afford to dismiss Boland's record at home - 49 wickets at 12.31 apiece with 18 of those wickets coming against us over there and another 21 in a series against India at the turn of this year. Equally, Doggett has taken 13 wickets at 14.69 this summer in the Sheffield Shield.
I hope I'm totally wrong and we thrash them but I do think that 3-1 to the Aussies is about right. That First Test will set the tone for the series and for that reason it is vital that we get out of the blocks running. At least we are blessed with not having Steve Harmison bowling the very first ball of the series.
Aside from Ashes predictions, it is great to hear that Ollie Robinson hasn't reacted like a scorned lover in not being in the England set up in taking time off from playing club cricket to bowl in the nets at Steve Smith. That's sure to mend broken bridges. With the Aussies anyway.3 -
England go with 4 quicks plus Stokes in their only warm up match against the lions. This jas very much been trailed as the match they will play their 11 for the first test in.
Not a complete ssurprise as it hasn't spun at all in Perth the last few years. Tongue over Carse maybe is a bit of a surprise but maybe in a 5 man pace attack you can accommodate him as a bit of a luxury in that he will take wickets but be expensive. Pope keeps the 3 slot so Root is the only spin option.1 -
Lions 208-5 at tea. I'm not sure whether Stokes taking four of those wickets is a good or bad thing. Tongue took the other wicket to fall. Bethell made just 2 for the Lions but the forgotten man when it came to central contracts, Cox, hit 53.0
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Carse is unwell. With the potential length of the Aussie tail Tongue could be very helpful anywaycantersaddick said:England go with 4 quicks plus Stokes in their only warm up match against the lions. This jas very much been trailed as the match they will play their 11 for the first test in.
Not a complete ssurprise as it hasn't spun at all in Perth the last few years. Tongue over Carse maybe is a bit of a surprise but maybe in a 5 man pace attack you can accommodate him as a bit of a luxury in that he will take wickets but be expensive. Pope keeps the 3 slot so Root is the only spin option.0 -
Although I love the idea of a wood/archer/atkinson/tongue attack for the first test, I feel like we need carse to give something different.0
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Wood off to have a scan on a “stiff” hamstring1
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All bar Khawaja of Australia's 15 have been playing in the latest round of Sheffield Shield games - even Inglis joined a game after playing against India in a T20.
Khawaja N/A
Weatherald 23 & 30
Labuschagne 50 & 11 plus 6-0-19-0
Smith 57 & 56* plus 2-0-4-0
Head 9 & 15
Carey 59
Inglis 4
Green 94 plus 15-4-43-1
Webster 13 & 8 plus 24.5-1-123-8
Boland 6 plus 25-8-51-3
Starc 0 & 6 plus 31-4-139-5
Hazlewood 4 plus 27-5-76-1
Abbott 4 plus 28-3-93-5
Lyon 0* & 0 plus 51.1-8-134-6
Doggett 0 plus 30.2-6-105-6
It is quite evident that the ball has dominated in these matches. Abbott is out injured now - he wouldn't have played anyway and neither will Doggett. Carey will be in the side instead of Inglis but I can't see Australia not including Lyon especially following his work out of bowling more than 50 overs in the game and even more so if they opt to play both Green and Webster because that would give them five seam options anyway. That said, both Labushagne and Webster have bowled both seam and spin this season and Head and Smith can turn their arm over too in the unlikely event that the situation makes that necessary.
It looks like a straight shoot out between Weatherald and Webster for that final position.
Khawaja
Weatherald
Labuschagne
Smith
Green
Head
Carey
Starc
Lyon
Hazlewood
Boland
Or
Khawaja
Labuschagne
Green
Smith
Head
Webster
Carey
Starc
Lyon
Hazlewood
Boland
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That's not a total surprise. Wood hasn't bowled a ball for anyone in a competitive match for nine months and since the Champions Trophy in February.fenaddick said:Wood off to have a scan on a “stiff” hamstring0 -
Here's the thing I don't get and hope that it's purely because Bashir isn't going to bat that he's not in the Lions XI but will bowl anyway - he isn't in either side whereas Bethell, Potts and the ill Carse are down on the scorecard for the Lions. Wouldn't it make sense for Bashir to bat in any case as he will be needed to do so at some point in the series?
Edit - Bashir is in the Lions 13-man team but isn't down to bat though experience this morning has shown that one can't believer too much of what is shown on the scorecard.1 -
Lions 309-5 (67) with the Surrey boys, Jacks 74* and Lawes 55* sharing and undefeated 6th wicket stand of 128 to date and now pressing for a place in the Test XI.
I think the decision to play Root as the only spinner in the Test, if that truly is the case, might have to be re-considered given his figures so far of 12-0-83-0. What's he bowling? Hand grenades?
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will jacks (74) and Tom Lawes (55) currently in a stand of over 120
Our first test spinner Joe Root looking menacing with 12-0-83-01 -
Well this is confusing. They've substituted Rew for Lawes on the scorecard with Atkinson bowling Rew for 55. Then Stokes gets Lawes out for a duck for his fifth wicket. Knew that stand between the "Surrey boys" was fake news.1
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Stokes gets his sixth wicket0
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Wicket for Root and Bashir has replaced Carse at 11 for the Lions
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Potts has just hit Root for four 6s in five balls. Excellent ploy by England to make the Aussies feel that they can take liberties with Root (14-0-117-1)1
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382 all out. Final wicket to Archer.0
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The major positive from today is not just Stokes taking 6 wickets but bowling 16 overs
Archer 12.3-2-49-1
Atkinson 16-4-62-1
Stokes 16-3-52-6
Wood 8-1-29-0
Tongue 13-1-63-1
Root 14-0-117-11
