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POST-MATCH THREAD: Ipswich Town v Charlton Athletic: Tuesday 21st October 2025: KO 19:45
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On this, a few of them seemed to claim for something for the 2nd goal but I can't work out what. Closest I can think of is if the ball flicked off Tanto's arm, any other ideas?golfaddick said:
What is more telling is that none of the Ipswich players appealed at all. Not the keeper nor the defender who was 2 yards away. And players appeal for everything !BigDiddy said:
AI/Fake News……..guinnessaddick said:
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Incredible night, incredible result. Yes, we rode our luck a little in the first half...but still could have gone in 2-0 up. Second half absolutely brilliant, that first goal really knocked the stuffing out of them and by full time we could have had four or five. No one could have predicted that. On to Hull, who have also had a good start, for another toughie.1
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As much as I’d love to agree with this I really can’t. For 35 minutes last night Ipswich were a different class to us. That’s not to say we weren’t organised and competitive but they could and probably should, if being honest have gone in at half time two goals to the good. They didn’t and the rest is history but my assessment of us is a really honest, battling and hard to beat team that as you’d expect first season back at a higher level still lacking that next level of class needed to even get playoffs. What we do is brilliant and we’re going to piss off a lot of Ipswiches this season.BigDiddy said:
keep playing last night night and we will get promoted automaticallyFortune 82nd Minute said:We're going to meet Millwall at Wembley in the play off final, aren't we? :-)9 -
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Braziliance where are you, can't wait for your brilliant comments and interviews!5
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Love reading posts like this. Heartwarming and very encouraging.ValleyGary said:
It was proper tight in there, but made for an amazing atmosphere.Stig said:OK, it wouldn't be Charlton Life if someone wasn't moaning after a match. Seeing as every one else is on cloud nine, it looks like I'm going to have to take up the cudgels.
£38 for standing tickets is appalling. Especially when many of the 'seats' in that block have an obscured view. The poor views led to loads of people standing in the gangways. The fresh-faced young stewards, who all looked liked they'd stepped out of sixth-form college that very afternoon, very wisely decided to let this go. It made for an exciting atmosphere, but could have proved fatal if there had been an emergency situation. Ipswich Town need to stop being money-grabbing bastards and stop selling seats with such appalling views - and stop selling at rip off prices.
The car park advertising parking at £4 for 3 hours (seems fair) actually charges £15 to football crowds. How is this blatant rip-off even legal? I absolutely hate the way football fans are treated in this country.Was my daughter and step-daughters first away game and they picked a blinder. Both said their hearts were pounding and they’d lost their voices.They’ve got the bug.4 -
This is what we were up against last night and really highlights just what a good job Nathan Jones has done in both recruitment and as a coach.3 -
I take it you didn’t see the 4-2 at Highbury?Hartleypete said:Probably the best Charlton performance I have seen live on Tv.
Well done Nathan and the boys, wonderful stuff.8 -
At the start of the season, on the Bet365 handicap market, we were allocated +34 points with the scratch team being, coincidentally, Ipswich.
For those that aren't fully aware how these markets work, a bookie awards their +points start based on their perception as to how a team is going to do - to put our +34 in perspective and how well they thought we would do, only Sheffield Wednesday (+36) and Oxford (+38) were allocated more than us. So, if this season were to finish today then we would win it and effectively, Ipswich have to now gain 40 points on us in the remaining games of the season to finish above us.
Of course, the "stagger" won't unwind until all 46 games are played but if we were to pro rata every team's points gained to date and add that to their handicap mark, then there would still only be one team above us. That team is Coventry who were given +12 and who, pro rata, are 7 points above us - they would end up with a total of 127 points whereas we would have 119 points.
That is a very simplistic way of assessing where we are but it serves to confirm that we are surprising a lot of people including the those making a living analysing the potential of teams such as bookies and the Racing Post who had us finishing 20th.
I've posted the complete points allocated at the start of the season are posted on the "Football betting handicap tables" thread for those that are interested.2 -
Agreed, where are you mate? Get that vlog up. @BrazilianceSilverdreammachine said:Braziliance where are you, can't wait for your brilliant comments and interviews!3 -
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Still buzzing from last night. Top 6, players playing for the badge, an incredible manager (who is enough of a nutcase to hopefully detract other clubs from poaching), and youth players tearing it up on loan. We are so back2
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"Two Peas in a Pod"...👌AddicksAddict said:
I take it you didn’t see the 4-2 at Highbury?Hartleypete said:Probably the best Charlton performance I have seen live on Tv.
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The potential has always been there with Lloyd. He was good enough as a youth player for Liverpool to pay to nick him from Plymouth's academy and he was on the bench for a game in 2013 and made 4 appearances for England U20s. Sometimes lots of short-term loans can derail a player more than help them and it's clear that what Lloyd has always needed is a bit of stability and trust so that he can make best use of his attributes. Jones allowing him some time to deal with the injury he was carrying and then making him the centrepiece of a defence that is the most important aspect of his entire strategy was a huge vote of confidence and it's clearly brought the best out of him. I like to think that Lloyd recognised how being in the right place for an extended period of time was a big part of his sudden development and that's how we managed to tie him down to a new contract when he probably could have got more money elsewhere.cafcnick1992 said:
Carey and Ramsey are young and are just getting better and better.AndyG said:I hate to actually mention it but we seem to have a real team on our hands !! When you look at players like Ramsey, Carey, Jones to name but 3 how the fuck were they not playing higher when we signed them ?
hull will be another big test but we should fear nobody. Starting Kelman with Tanto is the way ahead imo then let TC and Miles run at tired defenders
The Jones one is the real mystery. The bloke is an absolute titan. Would have no problem playing in the Premier League. I worry about what an injury to him would do to us because I think he is that pivotal in our back line.10 -
Jones did - he tried to sign him when he was at Luton working w Chapple but Carey chose Blackpool at the time. Jones says he's been an admirer for a long time. And it just happened to transpire that his B'pool contract was expiring just as we went up.IR94 said:Sonny Carey best signing we have made in years. Whoever scouted him is a genius
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Surely Lloyd Jones deserves his personal thread to be open.
Any reason that it remains closed @aliwibble?0 -
What a great game. Resolute, dynamic and clinical.
We are building something special right now.1 -
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Even from the photo of TC, it's not 100% proof the ball was out. 1 or 2% of the ball could have been on the line.AddicksAddict said:
Someone posted this on the Ipswich X feed. I guess they’re pointing out how good the lino’s eyesight was.2 -
I imagine Lloyd is very happy he decided to stay!Garrymanilow said:
The potential has always been there with Lloyd. He was good enough as a youth player for Liverpool to pay to nick him from Plymouth's academy and he was on the bench for a game in 2013 and made 4 appearances for England U20s. Sometimes lots of short-term loans can derail a player more than help them and it's clear that what Lloyd has always needed is a bit of stability and trust so that he can make best use of his attributes. Jones allowing him some time to deal with the injury he was carrying and then making him the centrepiece of a defence that is the most important aspect of his entire strategy was a huge vote of confidence and it's clearly brought the best out of him. I like to think that Lloyd recognised how being in the right place for an extended period of time was a big part of his sudden development and that's how we managed to tie him down to a new contract when he probably could have got more money elsewhere.cafcnick1992 said:
Carey and Ramsey are young and are just getting better and better.AndyG said:I hate to actually mention it but we seem to have a real team on our hands !! When you look at players like Ramsey, Carey, Jones to name but 3 how the fuck were they not playing higher when we signed them ?
hull will be another big test but we should fear nobody. Starting Kelman with Tanto is the way ahead imo then let TC and Miles run at tired defenders
The Jones one is the real mystery. The bloke is an absolute titan. Would have no problem playing in the Premier League. I worry about what an injury to him would do to us because I think he is that pivotal in our back line.1 -
I know some of you travelling fans said it was a bit tight up there, but it's a bit much this guy had to lay on a sloping roof while others held his feet.
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Two lovely little passes in a very tight area from Coventry for the second and third goals. The pass before the pass doesn't get recorded but he saw the runs and measured the pass (depending on your camera angle) brilliantly to set the assisters away.
Is there a point where we very quietly, just above a whisper, thank Andy Scott for Coventry and Gillesphey?16 -
NJ is a CAFC legend already. We owe him so much, and I wouldn't want any other manager. What a man, and what a team he's put together. I am 100% here for it. So grateful and happy and we owe it all to him. This is/going to be the best season since the prem days. We've had promotions etc under Powell/Bowyer, but there was always a fucking horrible cnut behind the scenes, this time it feels as though we got nothing to worry about.
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The only reason I am looking down the bottom of the table is because my boss is Shef United and my director is Shef Wendies so its great to be able to take the piss out of them!2
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Away so didn't watch the game so only saw twitter and mates' WhatsApp messages.
At HT it seemed we'd been outplayed but had the two best chances.
2nd half was a weird "WTF is going on?" experience you only get when you're abroad and not watching.
Fantastic result and league position.
Hull will be more difficult IMHO but what can't this Charlton team do?
The three relegated clubs aren't dominating as is usually the case so the division is wide open.
Long, long way to go but as Curbs would say "somebody's going to get promoted, why not us?"11 -
That shows what a difference it makes being at the other end of the ground. Where I was sitting they were really loud with the Nunez song, and singing 'Blue and White Army.' It was similar to The Covered End but their West Stand joined in more than ours.ValleyGary said:I know we aren’t much a of glamour tie but my god Ipswich fans were awful, the only time I heard them was when they was giving stick to Hernandez at HT.0 -
a word for the ref Farai Hallam who I hardly noticed throughout the game which I feel is a sign of a very good referee.12
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Will catch up with the thread now, but what a night, I love being wrong.
I thought we had little hope last night, but you can just never underestimate Nathan Jones Charlton, we have built a bit of a knack for getting results at these big clubs away on a weekday.
First half was exactly how I expected it to go. Dominated us all over the pitch, that Jack Clarke looks a player.
Second half, tale of two sides. Where I and many others highlighted our disappointing second halves 3 games in a row, it was the polar opposite this time. Ipswich actually couldn't cope.
Extremely memorable away day, and feels great after the last two visits there, watching a hopeless Charlton concede 10 on agg.
Not being dramatic, Nathan Jones saved us, we have a team to be proud of again.9 -
I disagree that we could’ve been 3-0 down, 2-2 at half time might have been a better reflection on the score but even then we had the two most clear cut chances through Tanto and Gilly. For all their pressure in the opening half hour or so I can only remember Kaminski making one save. Hitting the bar isn’t even statistically a shot on target.ShootersHillGuru said:I’m done with trying to second guess this Charlton team. I thought Ipswich at home would have too much for us last night and after the first 35 minutes I was expecting a 3 - 0 but not a 0 - 3. Yes we rode our luck but we grafted and never dropped our heads when we could have actually been 3 - 0 down. Perhaps the real difference between us and them was that although we’re not all conquering we’re not fragile and I think Ipswich showed last night second half that they are brittle. They collapsed. Jones has built a group that are a proper team. No egos, no slackers and battlers to a man. Will that be enough to get us into playoff contention ? I still don’t think so but I said the same last season. What I do know is that any team we play will have to be on their game to beat us. First season back and that’s all we can ask for. Away support magnificent .3 -
In a photo posted elsewhere you could see a shadow on the line from the ball so my instinct is it was in play but ultimately I don’t care.SoundAsa£ said:As for the ball being out of play it’s debatable.
From what I saw (and made out), it was 50/50…..was the “whole circumference of the ball” outside the line, the bottom surface of the ball certainly was but highly debatable from what we’ve seen IMHO.
When this happens light is seen between the bottom of the ball and the line this sometimes misleads the viewer to believe that the whole circumference is outside the line……especially when it’s happening so fast.2
https://youtu.be/y0Ge9_kCSpk?si=_-BlkiLNWtx6Fjnm
