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POST-MATCH THREAD: Queens Park Rangers v Charlton Athletic: Saturday 30th August 2025: KO 12:30pm
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Played 7, won 1, drawn 3, lost 3.golfaddick said:
How's his record against Millwall......because ours is truely dreadful.Callumcafc said:
This plus our awful record at Loftus Road - we should’ve seen it coming
https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/nathan-jones/bilanz/trainer/15622
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Dreadful performance today, only Jones & Leaburn can walk away with a bit of credit.
The midfield just isn't championship quality. The defence is fine, the attackers should be fine if they get chances, where are they coming from?
We also looked a very small team today, thought QPR bullied us a bit. Only Jones and Leaburn over 6 foot, everyone else under, we lost what felt like every second ball, panicked passes, hoofing it etc.
Whatever is left of the transfer budget, I would be blowing it all on a centre mid to play with Coventry, by far our weakest area.7 -
Also they are on £20k+ per week, which we are not in a position to pay anyone.golfaddick said:
Carlton Morris & Keiffer Moore were both available in the summer. Both experienced strikers. Both scored again today & have 3 (?) each for the season si far.We went for youth & inexperience instead.BartramBlitz said:
This. We need to push the boat out to add sime attacking threatct_addick said:JRS loan would be a big lift…that player who can do something special3 -
After sleeping on it, feel much better this morning.We didn't perform well yesterday, yet still created a lot of chances, and QPR game plan to stop us, was to be over physical, where we ended up winning 16 free kicks!Once we click in final third and start getting the ball in the net more frequently, we will be fine and start hurting sides more.The fact we are disappointed with yesterday's performance and result, yet we are still in 16th says a lot.6
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A few photos from our end & the toilets & what is that glass box and who sits there?8 -
5th December 1995.msomerton said:
yep that is how long ago.Fanny Fanackapan said:
Well, I'm praying for snow.....msomerton said:
When was thatElfsborgAddick said:AndyG said:Just watched the 1st half of the Millwall game if we don’t step up they will tear through us like a knife through butter. Fortunately they don’t seem to be able to score from the build up play they create
Don't worry mate, we always up our game against the spanners.
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Speaks a man with reason.CaptainRobbo said:
I think a few of this season's signings were bought with an eye on possible future sell on fees if they make the step up.charltonbob said:Didn't see the game & haven't seen much of Kelman this season (hardly surprising when NJ leaves him on the bench)so not having a dig at him but I do wonder as I did when we signed him, whether we should have gone out & spent as much as we could on an experienced quality striker proven at this level rather than someone totally unproven in the championship. We knew there would be a big step up in quality & games would be tight, we needed a striker we knew would do the business. Kelman or Leaburn may well go on & develop into decent goal scorers, problem is we need one now.Have to agree with you but I didn’t see todays game.1 -
For those worried about where we currently are and thinking we should be beating everyone we come up against, take a look at the teams currently in the bottom 6, 2 of them were in the premier league last season. Sheffield Utd have lost all of their 4 games and Ipswich drawn 3 (very lucky in at least 2, where they had a very late equalizers).
Everyone is entitled to their opinions, what I'm suggesting is we don't panic just yet and enjoy the experience back in the Championship. If we've yet to gain any further points by the end of September, then we may need to have a look over our shoulders, for now, the team is still getting up to speed.13 -
I thought we lost that yesterday through naivety from Nathan Jones. After their 1st goal we started to control the game in a similar way to Leicester last week but, again, our attacking threat was missing. But when our equaliser came in the 2nd half we thoroughly deserved that. I thought, then, we had a chance to go on and win the game. But, this is the Championship and the standard is a lot better than league 1. Instead of tightening it up at the back and then working towards possibly nicking a winner we left ourselves exposed at the back and it was QPR who got the 2nd because Edwards was exposed on the left and couldn’t get back quick enough on their breakaway and they scored. Maybe if we had reverted to a flat back 4 with 4 across the middle then Edwards wouldn’t have pushed forward so much and left us exposed. And from that point we conceded the 3rd because we were pushing for the equaliser.
i think the naïvety was that we’re in the Championship now and we were away from home. Surely it’s better to use a solid back 4 away from home, especially while we’re trying to establish ourselves at this level. I think NJ made a mistake yesterday. I’m no tactical wizard but that’s how I saw it anyway.Also, up front, I was disappointed with Leaburn. When he started I liked that because I like having a big man up front. But, I was disappointed that the ball never really stuck with him and his headed flick ons weren’t really working. I don’t think this helped the midfield in an attacking sense as nothing was being laid back to them for them to run onto. And TC was often chasing shadows in his linkup with Miles. This left us very ineffective up front.
Finally, I thought Apter was one of our better players and I was surprised when he was taken off.6 -
A great point. Even with disappointing final scores against Leicester and QPR, the level of football is so much better than we've been forced to watch the last few years.Char1t0n said:For those worried about where we currently are and thinking we should be beating everyone we come up against, take a look at the teams currently in the bottom 6, 2 of them were in the premier league last season. Sheffield Utd have lost all of their 4 games and Ipswich drawn 3 (very luck in at least 2, where they had a very late equalizers).
Everyone is entitled to their opinions, what I'm suggesting is we don't panic just yet and enjoy the experience back in the Championship. If we've yet to gain any further points by the ed of September, then we may need to have a look over our shoulders, for now, the team is still getting up to speed.Good reminder to at least enjoy the fact we are in the championship at last. Even more so, we're not looking out of place and are actually a team playing some lovely football (more against Leicester than yesterday).5 - Sponsored links:
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All I would say on the midfield side of thing is, although Knibbs and JRC didn't do themselves any favour's against Cambridge, I reckon they will both, barring any injuries, become a solid part of our midfield. If Jones deems the current pairing not good enough, he will start to change it, but I suggest he is currently giving Cov and Doc their chance, added with others getting up to speed fitness wise.Braziliance said:Dreadful performance today, only Jones & Leaburn can walk away with a bit of credit.
The midfield just isn't championship quality. The defence is fine, the attackers should be fine if they get chances, where are they coming from?
We also looked a very small team today, thought QPR bullied us a bit. Only Jones and Leaburn over 6 foot, everyone else under, we lost what felt like every second ball, panicked passes, hoofing it etc.
Whatever is left of the transfer budget, I would be blowing it all on a centre mid to play with Coventry, by far our weakest area.0 -
“Would” golfie is what the guy was referring to..golfaddick said:
No idea what you are on about. If you mean my reply to a different post then I wasn't correcting spelling, I was correcting grammar. And as per my answer to the post above, it was directed to my brother, who should know better.CaptainRobbo said:
If you're gonna correct other people's spelling, better make sure yours is perfectgolfaddick said:
Oh, I wondered when you woild crawl out of your hole.TheHerminator said:
You genuinely are a bit of a knob aren't you fellagolfaddick said:
Whoopee Do.CaptainRobbo said:
I think a few of this season's signings were bought with an eye on possible future sell on fees if they make the step up.charltonbob said:Didn't see the game & haven't seen much of Kelman this season (hardly surprising when NJ leaves him on the bench)so not having a dig at him but I do wonder as I did when we signed him, whether we should have gone out & spent as much as we could on an experienced quality striker proven at this level rather than someone totally unproven in the championship. We knew there would be a big step up in quality & games would be tight, we needed a striker we knew would do the business. Kelman or Leaburn may well go on & develop into decent goal scorers, problem is we need one now.
So we get relegated & then sell players. Then start yet another rebuild.
Cant wait 🙄
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Only 3 areas of concern in NJ’s preferred starting XI
a powderpuff central defence that can’t challenge the ball on the deck and doesn’t track runners
an impotent frontline starved of quality service
and a moribund midfield devoid of creativity
yesterday’s non-performance seasoned with Carey doing nothing at all and truly atrocious set play delivery
QPR walked thru completely unchallenged for the first goal a minute after being granted the exact same freedom but missing an absolute sitter
Miles Leaburn was a tad unlucky not to score that one meaningful chance
Coventry and Docherty chased shadows
Carey couldn’t be arsed in the most shameful pisstake I’ve seen in Charlton red since Lee Cook
NJ needs more than just a Right Wing Back
This Championship season got very real the last 8 days
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Leaburn if he's playing or possibly Carey?CaptainRobbo said:Without Godden, who takes a penalty if we ever get one?
Think I'd be watching it from behind the sofa1 -
Totally agree, not worried at all, early days just enjoying being back in the Championship with proper teams, good stadium with 20K+ crowds. Two weeks to have a break and look fwd to Millwall at home and doing a few more aways this season. Lets see where we are after a 1/3 of the season.stoneroses19 said:
A great point. Even with disappointing final scores against Leicester and QPR, the level of football is so much better than we've been forced to watch the last few years.Char1t0n said:For those worried about where we currently are and thinking we should be beating everyone we come up against, take a look at the teams currently in the bottom 6, 2 of them were in the premier league last season. Sheffield Utd have lost all of their 4 games and Ipswich drawn 3 (very luck in at least 2, where they had a very late equalizers).
Everyone is entitled to their opinions, what I'm suggesting is we don't panic just yet and enjoy the experience back in the Championship. If we've yet to gain any further points by the ed of September, then we may need to have a look over our shoulders, for now, the team is still getting up to speed.Good reminder to at least enjoy the fact we are in the championship at last. Even more so, we're not looking out of place and are actually a team playing some lovely football (more against Leicester than yesterday).5 -
CaptainRobbo said:Hoping the spanners give Hollywood FC a good spanking.
I feel dirty for saying that though.
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It’s easy to say that now but a month ago before the season started you said that you expected a finish between 10th and 16th.LargeAddick said:
A sensible post at last.SporadicAddick said:Some of the comments from the end of the match thread are brilliant. It really wasn’t dogshit or horrendous.
We lost 3-1 in the championship. The 3rd goal was as we pushed in the final stages - always a risk.
we clearly need some attention focussed on attacking threat but if Leaburn hits that under the bar in the first half it’s a different game.
We’ll lose a lot more this season, but we’ll win some as well.Some balance and perspective will definitely help some cope with a Saturday afternoons football.
I’ve seen three games in the flesh and today on TV. We should have won the first three and you could make a case for a point today. We weren’t great today but far from comments like dogshit.
At the beginning of the season most said they’d be happy if we just stayed up this season. I have no doubt we will. Yes we need to score goals but they will come. People seem to have forgotten that 7 of today’s starting 11 had never played Championship football before this season so are still learning. The bench had 5 or 6 who have no Championship experience, maybe more? We need more Championship experience but that costs. We have recruited well but have recruited the best from League One with a smattering of experience in Bell, Burke, Kaminski.
It’s not going to be pretty this season but we need to keep faith in NJ and the team. Stay up this season, improve for the season after. Some of the criticism today is over the top. We are no longer in League One, we have left primary school and joined big school. It will take time to adjust and improve.
When others predicted what you now say in bold above, you said that you couldn’t understand the negativity.1 -
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What about Rak-Sakyi?masicat said:Rak Saki will be here on Monday.Thank you very much for pointing that out. Very kind.0 -
Thank you very much for pointing that out. I don’t agree what others are saying and thinking, I think it’s very kind of you to take the time.ForeverAddickted said:
What about Rak-Sakyi?masicat said:Rak Saki will be here on Monday.1 - Sponsored links:
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Felt like a tough one to take yesterday. First half we were really poor, but at 1-1 we looked the better side and more likely to score. Two late goals then make a very unflattering scoreline.
It feels like three league games in a row where we’ve got less than we deserved from a game. But when it keeps happening is that bad luck or own naivety/lack of quality? It’s one thing losing when you’ve played well to Leicester, but QPR are potentially one of the teams we’re scrapping with at the bottom.
Some ridiculous comments about Campbell on here, as there were in the ground. He looked like the only player capable of making something happen, and got a good assist. Unsure why Jones insists on keeping him on the pitch when he’s clearly knackered, but that feels like an issue with the manager more than the player.Midfield two of Cov and Doc again felt like a weak link. Particularly in the first half we seemed to have no way of playing through the thirds. They let us have the ball and we didn’t know what to do with it. Ramsay and Jones were below their usual high standards as well.
There’s a lot of positives to take from our opening four games, but sadly only 4 points. Let’s hope we have an easy fixture next up… oh.7 -
CAFC got the backlash from QPR thrashing at Coventry.
Bizarrely other than the predictable rant from Billy Mix I haven't read any of the post match comments yet !
Our 3 CB'S struggled yesterday for the first time in about 25 league matches other than Wrexham away and suddenly they are shite !
There was a reason I/many of us thought we would finish 17th to 19th and nothing has changed from that thought.
It's a big step up from Mediocre League 1 to the competitive Championship and after the narrow Watford victory and the excellent draw at Bristol City Charlton fans went OTT just like I'm sure the usual suspects have done again with this defeat.
At 1-1 the crucial moment was Mbengue not getting a 2nd yellow card for a blatant foul on Kelman on the edge of the box when Charlie was going clear.
The game possibly ends at least 1-1 and we cheer a good away point. Unfortunately TC who had some good moments went down in the middle of the pitch softly and the superior skill in the division saw us punished on the counter attack.
The next two weeks really are crucial at Sparrows lane before the next game...
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I'm not sure being 16th at the end of August says a lot and wonder if 4 games in is enough to answer questions about our ability to compete at this level, even if it is all we have to go on so far.stoneroses19 said:After sleeping on it, feel much better this morning.We didn't perform well yesterday, yet still created a lot of chances, and QPR game plan to stop us, was to be over physical, where we ended up winning 16 free kicks!Once we click in final third and start getting the ball in the net more frequently, we will be fine and start hurting sides more.The fact we are disappointed with yesterday's performance and result, yet we are still in 16th says a lot.
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Looks like there’s been a huge overreaction to an away defeat in the championship, where we were probably the better side from 15-75 minutes of the game
Be interesting to see the team selection in 2 weeks. We won’t have the Jamaicans with us till late next week so I’d bring Gillesphey in for Bell, Millwall is probably more of a physical challenge anyway. Also leave TC out and then for the next 2 weeks it’s a shootout between Olaofe and Kelman to partner Leaburn up top. I’m sure we will have a BCD game next week to get more minutes into players so Kelman and Knibbs should hopefully be 100% ready from now on5 -
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Perhaps not but it does help define the questions eg are the four strikers from yesterday experienced enough, can they finish, is 3 runners in midfield going to make up for no creativity, is the long ball going to bring mistakes at Championship level etcswordfish said:
I'm not sure being 16th at the end of August says a lot and wonder if 4 games in is enough to answer questions about our ability to compete at this level, even if it is all we have to go on so far.stoneroses19 said:After sleeping on it, feel much better this morning.We didn't perform well yesterday, yet still created a lot of chances, and QPR game plan to stop us, was to be over physical, where we ended up winning 16 free kicks!Once we click in final third and start getting the ball in the net more frequently, we will be fine and start hurting sides more.The fact we are disappointed with yesterday's performance and result, yet we are still in 16th says a lot.
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We’ve been promoted. It’s 4 games in. If this reaction happens every time we lose, it’s going to be a long season.As a fanbase we had a bit of a sense of entitlement in League 1 and it made some sense - but how on earth has it carried over to the Championship?
We’ve dominated our opponents for the majority of the time but not quite clicked and turned that into wins. We weren't “dreadful” today. Wasteful, sure, a bit naïve, yes - but I’d be way more worried if we just looked outright bad across the games.22 -
Yesterday was a huge reality check for some of the supporter base. This season is about finishing any where above 21st. That is not defeatist, its the reality. We have been a club that has been terribly run for too many seasons, no constituency with managers or players. Jones has turned the ship around, but when you finish 4th in the 3rd division having spent a large chunk of that season mid table the year you actually get promoted, staying in the division the next season will be a huge challenge at any level.
We have a group of players who unlike may of the clowns before them have shown us all something positive and in promotion have actually achieved something for the club, now is the time to back those players. It may well be the case they might not be good enough for this level, but they are our players and this season is like us against the world and we need to back them.
Yesterday was not the greatest of performances but we were well in the game until QPR went 2 1 up. Its those tight moments we always got right at the back end of last season, its going to be even harder this season, but if we are to stay up we need to get a point when level so late in the game.
Why some of the supporter base thought we were going to finish the season high up this league is truly baffling.26 -
It’s way too early to be judging the team, manager or individual players. We’ve also not had the easiest first 4 games and done pretty well overall in terms of performances. We are going to lose quite a few games this season so fans need to get used to itswordfish said:
I'm not sure being 16th at the end of August says a lot and wonder if 4 games in is enough to answer questions about our ability to compete at this level, even if it is all we have to go on so far.stoneroses19 said:After sleeping on it, feel much better this morning.We didn't perform well yesterday, yet still created a lot of chances, and QPR game plan to stop us, was to be over physical, where we ended up winning 16 free kicks!Once we click in final third and start getting the ball in the net more frequently, we will be fine and start hurting sides more.The fact we are disappointed with yesterday's performance and result, yet we are still in 16th says a lot.5 -
I think that's in Nathan Jones's mind Naby. Millwall are playing teams on the break away from home and have got great success out of it, Watford and Leicester played the same way. The problem I have with Gillesphey, is his lack of pace but on the plus side he actually can deliver from deep and take a free kick, something we are sadly lacking at the moment. I think the next two weeks will give Jones a chance to work with the players and get some ideas across, I'm with Golfie, when he suggests that the forwards are not missing chances, they are just not getting enough chances, another two weeks working with Kelman and OLaofe might see a change in personnel.NabySarr said:Looks like there’s been a huge overreaction to an away defeat in the championship, where we were probably the better side from 15-75 minutes of the game
Be interesting to see the team selection in 2 weeks. We won’t have the Jamaicans with us till late next week so I’d bring Gillesphey in for Bell, Millwall is probably more of a physical challenge anyway. Also leave TC out and then for the next 2 weeks it’s a shootout between Olaofe and Kelman to partner Leaburn up top. I’m sure we will have a BCD game next week to get more minutes into players so Kelman and Knibbs should hopefully be 100% ready from now on1
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