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POST-MATCH THREAD: Queens Park Rangers v Charlton Athletic: Saturday 30th August 2025: KO 12:30pm

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  • Brownie12
    Brownie12 Posts: 1,525
    Callumcafc said:
    Seen someone call TC a wanker for heading to the tunnel before the rest of the team on social media. Words fail me.
    To be fair it was 10 mins before the final whistle! 
  • TootingRedArmy
    TootingRedArmy Posts: 389
    No need to panic.....42 games to go. It’s a marathon, not a sprint, so let’s see where we are after 15. I still enjoyed it, catching up with an old colleague in Spoons at the Bush and revisiting the area I once worked in, still as run down as it was in the nineties. Loftus Rd remains one of my favourite grounds, though the tannoy blasting Papa’s Got a Brand New Pigbag three times after every goal was irritating. Nathan now has two weeks to work with the team, and I’m sure tweaks will be made as we go again against Millwall. COYA's
  • JamesSeed
    JamesSeed Posts: 17,380
    edited August 31
    It’s easy to get very disheartened after a game like that, but after the equaliser we did look quite dominant and the mood was great in the away end. I thought the winner was gonna come, but there was always a chance they’d hit us on the break; and once Jones was up top a third was always on the cards. The downside was despite the dominance we lacked that bit of quality to turn the dominance into a goal. Our shooting was very poor, which didn’t help.
    And another poor ref. 26 fouls by them broke up our play, but the ref let it go. 
  • LargeAddick
    LargeAddick Posts: 32,561
    ArmchairAddick said:
    Elthamaddick said:
    Starting XI needs a shake up

    we've become a bit too predictable especially the long throws and corner routine to the back post

    Not looking forward to the Millwall game on that showing 
    They aren't looking too great themselves right now tbh
    Except away from home, played two, won two, scored four I think, not conceded.
  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 33,628
    king addick said:
    golfaddick said:
    king addick said:
    Start with 2 proper, out and out strikers in the next game.

    I want TC to do well but he just isnt doing it. Yes he set up the Apter goal but until then he done nothing. A darting run without end product is worth sod all. 
    What formation are you going to play if you start with 2 proper out & out strikers......because NJ isn't suddenly going to go 442.
    He doesn't need to go 442. Campbell was a striker alongside Leaburn..?

                                Kaminski

                    Ramsay Jones Bell
    Apter                                             Edwards 

                   Doc       Carey    Cov
     
                   Leaburn      Campbell

    And as Campbell isnt a proper striker, starting Tanto or Kelman would make more sense.
    Campbell play wide left. That is why he is always hugging the left touch line and cutting in. He is definitely not a striker. For one he hasnt got a striker's attributes or nouse for goal. 
  • CaptainRobbo
    CaptainRobbo Posts: 611
    ElfsborgAddick said:
    gmantaxi said:
    How about have 2 weeks off from moaning and we go again v the scum , try it you’ll feel better COYR 
    Beat them and Jones is brilliant and we're staying up, lose and we're f******* s*** and going down.
    That's how it works for many.

    Reading other forums, seems like that way for most teams
  • 1968CAFC
    1968CAFC Posts: 577
    We need a proper striker and another midfielder 
    we give away goals and cannot score!
    it’s early days yes, and I think we will stay up in our first season back, if we take note of these issues.
    unfortunately we have suffered in the hands of
    wanker referees in three games 👎👎
  • Briston_Addick
    Briston_Addick Posts: 11,677
    LoOkOuT said:
    There was blood in the water but we didn’t have a spear. Then we tripped and fell overboard.
    Fell overboard and still failed to hit the water.
  • se9addick
    se9addick Posts: 32,037
    JamesSeed said:
    It’s easy to get very disheartened after a game like that, but after the equaliser we did look quite dominant and the mood was great in the away end. I thought the winner was gonna come, but there was always a chance they’d hit us on the break; and once Jones was up top a third was always on the cards. The downside was despite the dominance we lacked that bit of quality to turn the dominance into a goal. Our shooting was very poor, which didn’t help.
    And another poor ref. 26 fouls by them broke up our player, but the ref let it go. 
    The problem is we were also the better team against Leicester. At this rate we’ll be the best ever team to be relegated! 
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  • EastTerrace
    EastTerrace Posts: 3,961
    Don’t know where to o start…
    Lack of press, energy, composure, movement and showing for the ball.
    Lost any shape we had after the subs.
    Could not keep the ball up front for the first 30 minutes.

    Special call out for poor games include Ramsay, Coventry, Edwards and Leaburn (looked sluggish to me and when he did win headers they went everywhere but where they should have gone)

  • CaptainRobbo
    CaptainRobbo Posts: 611
    edited August 30
    charltonbob said:
    Didn't see the game & haven't seen much of Kelman this season (hardly surprising when NJ leaves him on the bench)so not having a dig at him but I do wonder as I did when we signed him, whether we should have gone out & spent as much as we could on an experienced quality striker proven at this level rather than someone totally unproven in the championship. We knew there would be a big step up in quality & games would be tight, we needed a striker we knew would do the business. Kelman or Leaburn may well go on & develop into decent goal scorers, problem is we need one now.
    I think a few of this season's signings were bought with an eye on possible future sell on fees if they make the step up.
  • letthegoodtimesroll
    letthegoodtimesroll Posts: 10,621
    edited August 30
    My clueless view of today. 

    We lost the league game against Leicester, we wasted the opportunity of the mid-week cup game to let the team get that loss out of its system, we played the price today. It ain’t rocket science. 

    3 consecutive defeats now and next up is Millwall. If you don’t understand what the atmosphere in the ground is going to be like for that game, think Wycombe at home in the second leg of the playoff semi-final and multiply it by ten. It’s definitely not a game for performances like today’s; and just a heads up, in one of the more recent games between us there were even fights breaking out in the directors seats, so best not to repeat today’s efforts which were against a team that’s probably going to be playing its football in L1 next season. QPR were rubbish, we made them look better than they are.
  • Garrymanilow
    Garrymanilow Posts: 13,171
    1968CAFC said:
    We need a proper striker and another midfielder 
    we give away goals and cannot score!
    it’s early days yes, and I think we will stay up in our first season back, if we take note of these issues.
    unfortunately we have suffered in the hands of
    wanker referees in three games 👎👎defe
    Do we? Before today we'd conceded 1 goal in 3 games and it was an absolute screamer. Today wasn't great defensively but so far it was an anomaly
  • se9addick
    se9addick Posts: 32,037
    charltonbob said:
    Didn't see the game & haven't seen much of Kelman this season (hardly surprising when NJ leaves him on the bench)so not having a dig at him but I do wonder as I did when we signed him, whether we should have gone out & spent as much as we could on an experienced quality striker proven at this level rather than someone totally unproven in the championship. We knew there would be a big step up in quality & games would be tight, we needed a striker we knew would do the business. Kelman or Leaburn may well go on & develop into decent goal scorers, problem is we need one now.
    The sort of player you’re describing costs about £10M (maybe more) these days. The Championship has gotten completely insane in the five years we’ve been out of it. We think that spending £3M - £4M on a striker is a massive amount (and it absolutely is relative to what we’ve been spending recently) but it doesn’t buy you much at this level as I think we’re starting to find out. 
  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 33,628
    Our set pieces are dreadful. Need to get someone trained on them pdq. It's usually Edwards or Docherty and their delivery usually ends up with the ball looping into the 6 yard box for the keeper to easily claim. Or going too high or too long & out of play. Against Leicester was an anomaly. 

    Seeing as we dont create from open play if we are going to get anything from games thus is an area that really has to improve. And I mean really improve. One or two players need to spend 30 mins every day in training improving their delivery. Take set piece after ser piece. Practice makes perfect as they say.
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,766
    https://youtu.be/m21Zn4uM6U0
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,850
    Our xG today was 0.79. We had a lot of possession in the second half, but created very little. 
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,766
    https://youtu.be/H9-fWDxtmSA
  • AberystwythAddick
    AberystwythAddick Posts: 913
    It makes Tuesday even odder knowing we had the international break after today. Players didn’t look sharp. We live and learn… 
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  • MarcusH26
    MarcusH26 Posts: 8,035
    se9addick said:
    charltonbob said:
    Didn't see the game & haven't seen much of Kelman this season (hardly surprising when NJ leaves him on the bench)so not having a dig at him but I do wonder as I did when we signed him, whether we should have gone out & spent as much as we could on an experienced quality striker proven at this level rather than someone totally unproven in the championship. We knew there would be a big step up in quality & games would be tight, we needed a striker we knew would do the business. Kelman or Leaburn may well go on & develop into decent goal scorers, problem is we need one now.
    The sort of player you’re describing costs about £10M (maybe more) these days. The Championship has gotten completely insane in the five years we’ve been out of it. We think that spending £3M - £4M on a striker is a massive amount (and it absolutely is relative to what we’ve been spending recently) but it doesn’t buy you much at this level as I think we’re starting to find out. 
    Yeah proven Championship attackers probably start at £10m nowadays. Ipswich have just spent £17m on a Norwegian international. 
  • LargeAddick
    LargeAddick Posts: 32,561
    MarcusH26 said:
    se9addick said:
    charltonbob said:
    Didn't see the game & haven't seen much of Kelman this season (hardly surprising when NJ leaves him on the bench)so not having a dig at him but I do wonder as I did when we signed him, whether we should have gone out & spent as much as we could on an experienced quality striker proven at this level rather than someone totally unproven in the championship. We knew there would be a big step up in quality & games would be tight, we needed a striker we knew would do the business. Kelman or Leaburn may well go on & develop into decent goal scorers, problem is we need one now.
    The sort of player you’re describing costs about £10M (maybe more) these days. The Championship has gotten completely insane in the five years we’ve been out of it. We think that spending £3M - £4M on a striker is a massive amount (and it absolutely is relative to what we’ve been spending recently) but it doesn’t buy you much at this level as I think we’re starting to find out. 
    Yeah proven Championship attackers probably start at £10m nowadays. Ipswich have just spent £17m on a Norwegian international. 
    And Adam Idah is costing Swansea 7m. Worlds gone mad.
  • MarcusH26
    MarcusH26 Posts: 8,035
    LargeAddick said:
    MarcusH26 said:
    se9addick said:
    charltonbob said:
    Didn't see the game & haven't seen much of Kelman this season (hardly surprising when NJ leaves him on the bench)so not having a dig at him but I do wonder as I did when we signed him, whether we should have gone out & spent as much as we could on an experienced quality striker proven at this level rather than someone totally unproven in the championship. We knew there would be a big step up in quality & games would be tight, we needed a striker we knew would do the business. Kelman or Leaburn may well go on & develop into decent goal scorers, problem is we need one now.
    The sort of player you’re describing costs about £10M (maybe more) these days. The Championship has gotten completely insane in the five years we’ve been out of it. We think that spending £3M - £4M on a striker is a massive amount (and it absolutely is relative to what we’ve been spending recently) but it doesn’t buy you much at this level as I think we’re starting to find out. 
    Yeah proven Championship attackers probably start at £10m nowadays. Ipswich have just spent £17m on a Norwegian international. 
    And Adam Idah is costing Swansea 7m. Worlds gone mad.
    That one absolutely baffles me! Was hyped as a kid coming through but has done nothing to justify being a £7m player. 
  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 33,628
    Callumcafc said:
    Very fair analysis from NJ I feel. Different from some of the sarcastic predictions that were made at full time. Touches on the ref but acknowledges that it was our worst performance of the season so far. Praises QPR for changing their style of play and going more physical compared to the way they’ve played previous

    https://x.com/cafcofficial/status/1961804090788262156?s=46&t=ynww82GMl7VKBjthBflU0g
    Well Nathan, you'v correctly identified that our set pieces were rubbish so what are YOU going to do about it. You have 2 weeks until our next game. A game that means more than any other this season. I expect to see something different when we have a corner or a free kick close to goal on the 13th

    GET  THEM  ON  THE  TRAINING  PITCH  AND PRACTICE  !!!
  • wolfgang
    wolfgang Posts: 386
    ForeverAddickted said:
    masicat said:
    Rak Saki will be here on Monday. 
    What about Rak-Sakyi?

    Careful. You will be called a bullying snob.
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,766

  • sillav nitram
    sillav nitram Posts: 10,164
    PWR

    Wasn’t at the game so hard to make any judgement, though lack of goals is becoming a concern and NJ’s use of Tanto or lack of, I find baffling? When did he come on, 87th minute, what’s the point in that?
  • wolfgang
    wolfgang Posts: 386
    BigDiddy said:
    KingKinsella said:
    SELR_addicks said:
    It's funny. We got promoted because our defense were excellent and kept a lot of clean sheets. 

    So we change up the defense with new recruitment and largely keep the midfield and attack the same (in the starting line-up). 

    We don't have enough quality in the final third and, whilst that remains, we will struggle this year. 
    Listened but haven't seen the game. Did the forwards get enough quality ball ? Maybe its not their fult
    I don’t blame our forwards as I think our real problem is the midfield ...


    I don't know if our forwards are good enough or not. I do know it is unfair to judge them until we can field a competent midfield. Most teams can put together three or four passes in midfield before laying on a chance. We don't even try to do that. Just bang it forward hoping someone can get on the end of it. That worked in League One and, to some extent in our first three games this time round, but other clubs will soon get wise to it as QPR did today to nullify most clear chances for us.
  • CaptainRobbo
    CaptainRobbo Posts: 611
    golfaddick said:
    Callumcafc said:
    Very fair analysis from NJ I feel. Different from some of the sarcastic predictions that were made at full time. Touches on the ref but acknowledges that it was our worst performance of the season so far. Praises QPR for changing their style of play and going more physical compared to the way they’ve played previous

    https://x.com/cafcofficial/status/1961804090788262156?s=46&t=ynww82GMl7VKBjthBflU0g
    Well Nathan, you'v correctly identified that our set pieces were rubbish so what are YOU going to do about it. You have 2 weeks until our next game. A game that means more than any other this season. I expect to see something different when we have a corner or a free kick close to goal on the 13th

    GET  THEM  ON  THE  TRAINING  PITCH  AND PRACTICE  !!!
    Or loan Alex Gilbert just to take the corners against Millwall, we have 5 spaces available.
  • Greenie Junior
    Greenie Junior Posts: 3,881
    Went today with my father in law who is a QPR fan, sat in the padded seats, surrounded by QPR which was not far off torture for the last ten minutes. Especially as I proper give it some when we equalised. 

    anyways, what was quite interesting was listening to their comments, they were most worried about Campbell & Edwards, who in their words, made their defence look silly every time they went forward.

    what made it a difficult one to swallow was them laughing at Bell & Ramsey pretty much all
    game, as both were toilet. Along with having to listen to Richard Kone when he collected his motm award jabbing at Kaminski for not coming off his line for his goal ‘I thought please don’t come off your line as I won’t get this if you do, and when he stayed there I couldn’t believe it’ along with laughter. 

    Not ideal. Need more beers to get over that afternoon. 

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