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Tuchel’s first England squad

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  • First ever defeat against a team from Africa is that?
  • Dreadful result. Impressed with Senegal though tbf, decent little team and knock it about well
  • Got what we deserved, well done Senegal, defence were very poor, clueless!


  • Kane probably thought he was done defending Tuchel
  • Bring back National Service, outside toilets and ricketts. We were good at football when we had them.
    Says absolutely nobody.
  • Southgate out!
  • Absolute dog shite, paid millions and turn out that pile of crap. Disgraceful.
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  • Sack the German twat now, end of.
  • Fuck off with foreign managers. Tuchel has less clue than Appleton. 

    Fuck off FIFA with your countless friendlies & Club World Cup. Season should end with the play offs at the end of May. 

    Pointless match. And it ended "pointless". 
  • Too late to call Eddie Howe?
  • arny23394 said:
    I’d sack him for having Walker and Henderson in the squad. What’s the actual point?
    And Toney
  • philcafc said:
    That's a ridiculous decision. Goal should count.
    I thought he clearly moved his arm towards the ball, while turning his view away.
  • We had a great assistant for a number of years, specifically appointed to get opportunity and experience under Southgate to be ready for his own opportunity… and then we chose a German successor. 

    APPOINT POWELL


  • Tuchel can do one . 
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  • Bring back National Service, outside toilets and ricketts. We were good at football when we had them.
    100% of England's World Cup wins have been achieved within 4 years after National Service was abolished. So bring it back for a month, abolish it again and that should do the trick.
  • philcafc said:
    That's a ridiculous decision. Goal should count.
    I thought he clearly moved his arm towards the ball, while turning his view away.
    Agree - he knew exactly what he was doing, and as a Woolwich & District League centre-half in the 90s, I should know.
    We're fucked under Turtle.
  • Gibbs white was quite good. Thats a positive?! 
  • Defensively we were very poor, and it looked like the thrown together back 4 it was, lacking experience other than the declining Walker. 
  • edited June 10
    I think it was the right time for Southgate to go - he looked tired of the job by the last Euros, and the positive energy around his England squad was starting to fade - it had gone from the whole 'it's a treat and a privilege to play for England', all in this together as a country thing that he'd created (really well) into a 'us against the press/fans' atmosphere at the last Euros.  We were also turgid for the first four games and could so easily have had a really embarrassing exit to Slovakia in the Last 16.

    The current squad feels very much back to the Capello/Hodgson days of it being the end of an era of one generation, they're a bit tired of playing for England and it's a chore with too much pressure and not a thrill anymore.

    In hindsight, it was a good time for Sputhgate to get the job - the older guard had largely gone and he sacked off Rooney quickly after one minor discretion, dropped Hart etc quite quickly leaving a reasonably fresh canvas .  He also had Kane just reaching the standards we've seen, and could build tactically around that Spurs axis of Dier, Alli, Kane, Walker, Rose, Sterling doing what Son did for Spurs etc.  That let him concentrate on the psychological side and culture of the squad more - and again, he did that really well.

    Maybe we should therefore have gone for a manager that was more likely to be a 'fun' one, someone who makes training a bit different, plays on the front foot etc, rather than going for someone chosen for apparently being tactically better than Southgate in an attempt to make that last step we couldn't under Southgate?  Did we need someone who maybe could have reversed that slip back into bad habits and bad attitudes?  I don't think Tuchel being German is the issue, more him being on the surly/disciplinarian side and that not being what we need right now.

    I think we definitely should have looked to move on from Walker and Henderson while we look to freshen things up.  Kane is that bit younger, still scoring loads, and is a good captain, plus there's no other strikers, but there's no need to be carrying on with the other two.

    Who that 'fun' manager was who could have freshened things up a bit is another question.
  • (Hopefully I'm wrong and it's just an end of season thing).
  • Walker is watching his fitness as he will be opening numerous cards and presents on Sunday, hard work. Wonder if there's a price on Carsley being in charge in a year's time 
  • A lot of English players have gone backwards in the last couple of years, players who were regulars.

    Sterling, Sancho, Rashford, Grealish are all way off their best. Foden has had a poor season, age is catching up with Walker and Henderson, Stones, James, Shaw, Mount struggle for fitness, Kalvin Phillips fell down a Man City hole and never recovered...

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