Kayne Ramsay

LittleAddick said:

ElfsborgAddick said:

eaststandmike said:

Callumcafc said:

Btw some of the page 1, 2, 3 comments from when he first signed are amusing. I’m definitely putting this signing in the “underwhelming but turned out to be brilliant” category with Yann Kermorgant.

“Brilliant”, behave. 

None of our players are brilliant, we are in League One.

He has a long way to go before he gets mentioned in the same way as Yann

Kermorgant is probably the best player we have had since we got relegated from the Premier League.

Bar the circumstances upon which he left, Taylor was streets ahead of Yann in his prime IMO

Very similar level for me, both excellent in L1 with no doubt they’d be comfortable in the Champ.

Yann proved it by playing regularly and scoring goals in Bournemouth’s title winning team.

Taylor got into double figures with us at that level but didn’t keep it up or build on it at Forest.

Yann was better in the air and great at picking a pass but lacked pace. Taylor had decent pace which arguably made him a more well rounded player, though like I said it was Yann who proved his ability with us and at another club. Taylor might have done in the right team, but for whatever reason it didn’t work out at Forest.

Yann then went on to do a good job for Reading, while Taylor has dropped down the leagues.

LittleAddick said:

ElfsborgAddick said:

eaststandmike said:

Callumcafc said:

Btw some of the page 1, 2, 3 comments from when he first signed are amusing. I’m definitely putting this signing in the “underwhelming but turned out to be brilliant” category with Yann Kermorgant.

“Brilliant”, behave. 

None of our players are brilliant, we are in League One.

He has a long way to go before he gets mentioned in the same way as Yann

Kermorgant is probably the best player we have had since we got relegated from the Premier League.

Bar the circumstances upon which he left, Taylor was streets ahead of Yann in his prime IMO

Please tell me you don't scout for the club.

Just sat here wondering when I said Ramsay was as good as Yann.

Yann is, and likely forever more will be, the shining example of what I pointed out. Ramsay is just the latest example of it.

LittleAddick said:

ElfsborgAddick said:

eaststandmike said:

Callumcafc said:

Btw some of the page 1, 2, 3 comments from when he first signed are amusing. I’m definitely putting this signing in the “underwhelming but turned out to be brilliant” category with Yann Kermorgant.

“Brilliant”, behave. 

None of our players are brilliant, we are in League One.

He has a long way to go before he gets mentioned in the same way as Yann

Kermorgant is probably the best player we have had since we got relegated from the Premier League.

Bar the circumstances upon which he left, Taylor was streets ahead of Yann in his prime IMO

Good grief!!!

LittleAddick said:

ElfsborgAddick said:

eaststandmike said:

Callumcafc said:

Btw some of the page 1, 2, 3 comments from when he first signed are amusing. I’m definitely putting this signing in the “underwhelming but turned out to be brilliant” category with Yann Kermorgant.

“Brilliant”, behave. 

None of our players are brilliant, we are in League One.

He has a long way to go before he gets mentioned in the same way as Yann

Kermorgant is probably the best player we have had since we got relegated from the Premier League.

Bar the circumstances upon which he left, Taylor was streets ahead of Yann in his prime IMO

Nearly as bad as that bloke who thought Reza at his peak was better than Tony Watt. 

Yann is deservedly a Charlton legend. Taylor is not. 

Yann has been our best player since the PL, only player who could come close would be JBG imo. He did it at Bournemouth and Reading while Taylor never really got a look in at Forest and is now in L2 

Letting Yann go was the stupidest move Charlton have made in the last 50 years. If Roland had built his team around the spine of Hamer, Morrison, Stephens and Yann we would have got to the Premier League 

LittleAddick said:

I think in reality Macaulay Bonne was probably a better striker than Yann as well - hehe nearly had you there.

If we're talking purely for Charlton though, Taylor got around double the goals Yann scored in their promotion seasons, and then the same in their first seasons with us in the Championship despite Taylor playing significantly less.  The LCL injury Lyle picked up in September 2019 completely changed him and he wasn't the same player from then. But, for pace, finishing and all round play Taylor in his prime was the best striker we've had since Premier League relegation IMO.

That's not really comparing like for like as players and what they brought to the team as a whole. If we take into account assists too then in their respective first seasons in the Championship with us then Yann had 12 goals and 9 assists from 32 appearances whereas Taylor had 11 goals and 1 assist from 22 appearances. Yann's overall contribution to results was greater. 

Both players were late developers. Yann, following his departure from us, scored 66 goals and had 30 assists at that level from 194 appearances in the Championship. Taylor, by comparison, scored 13 and had 2 assists in 75 appearances. So, at the highest level they both played, Yann scored or assisted once every 2 games whereas Taylor did that once every 5 matches. 

It's Kermy's all round game and the pressure that he took off his strike partner such as BWP with us and Callum Wilson at Bournemouth that enabled them to thrive. Taylor, to me, was an excellent goal scorer but did not possess the footballing intelligence of Yann. I also believe that Yann worked for the team whereas Taylor worked for the adulation. And I felt that even before his untimely demise with us.    

Back to the comparison with Ramsay who is a superb player. There is no comparison with Yann though and the evidence is the reason why forwards, at any level, cost infinitely more than defenders. It's much easier to find a Ramsay than it is a Yann.  

Absolute class player. Hopefully we get promoted this season otherwise I think he will have to be sold as the offers will be too good to refuse. I can see someone like Brentford or Brighton signing him

Scoham said:

Yesterdays highlights

https://x.com/kayneramsay1/status/1893400588752220187?s=46&t=A-w3Eq0EWWpjMxring904Q

My favourite is the bit around 1:14. I remember watching it live thinking Ramsey would get to it, but would have to make a sliding tackle and hit the ball off for their throw.

But he just glided in front of their player, bodied him, and glided off with the ball.

You could see how miffed their player looked. 

Won’t be playing for us next season regardless. Ridiculous player 

fenaddick said:

No info on this at all but think it would take a hefty bid for him to be sold. Can’t see NJ sanctioning a sale as he’s so hard to replace, especially as we can’t fully control what happens to Small

I have a hunch that Small will sign his contract if we get promoted he seems very settled here and if we are in the championship then why wouldn’t he stay ? If we are still in league one he will leave and I wouldn’t blame him tbh he and Ramsey are not league one players 

A class above... no clue how he has been in the lower leagues so long, looks a top end Chanpionship player at least

hoof_it_up_to_benty said:

Don't understand how he ended up in L2.

Players slip through the net or need a spell out of the elite academy system to reset their mentality. We signed Lookman and Pope from even lower down the pyramid than Ramsey so the uncut gem are out there.