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Has anyone seen Andy Scott this season? - Gone (p2)
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Doh! Obviously you didn’t read my post. We should have kept both, as he wanted to stay but was pushed out. Now a first team regular battling for the top two. Stop defending Scott, even the club have given up on that!RonnieMoore said:
He wanted to stay so much he went and signed a ridiculous contract with another club.… there was no debate and has been proved Coventry a different level then Dobson.….SouthLincsAddick said:
I think the Dobson/Coventry, who is better debate is misleading. The fact is, we should have had both at the club. Dobbo wanted to stay and wasn’t asking for too much in wages. Instead we signed Alan Campbell on loan. That worked out well.SantaClaus said:
I'm not here to defend Andy Scott but our midfield looks far better now than it ever did when Dobson was in the side.matt88 said:The way he treated Dobbo was unforgivable. Allowed the best club captain we’d had in years to walk away for free because he didn’t rate him. Amateurish.2 -
Scott leaves and we lose
Shows that players, nearly all of whom he signed, were loyal to him and distracted. Coventry prime example of that making the mistake for the goal.19 -
It’s a similar relationship to a GM an head coach in the NFL. Most new head coaches usually get to pick the GM they want to work with. It should be the same here.wmcf123 said:Replace Rodwell now and appoint a proper , well respected Director of Football / whatever you want to call it - someone Jones has faith in - the Gallen to his Bowyer , if you will . There must be some good people out there .
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The Red Robin said:
It’s a similar relationship to a GM an head coach in the NFL. Most new head coaches usually get to pick the GM they want to work with. It should be the same here.wmcf123 said:Replace Rodwell now and appoint a proper , well respected Director of Football / whatever you want to call it - someone Jones has faith in - the Gallen to his Bowyer , if you will . There must be some good people out there .
What's the GM's role in NFL - genuine question because I have no idea.0 -
@Airman Brown could you please clarify / further explain what you meant by presentation and accountability? I can’t quite grasp the dynamic you’re describingAirman Brown said:
Rodwell positions himself as someone who transforms football businesses. Hence he doesn’t stay around. In his pursuit of a new role he’s told people that he has completed this at Charlton.ShootersHillGuru said:I’m interested by some of the comments suggesting there will be more to follow Scott. Who and why ?
It is interesting that on the one hand fans were told that people don’t tend to have expertise on both the business side and football side, yet at the same time he moved from one to the other at Charlton.
Despite his playing background, Rodwell’s experience is on the business side. The reasons he was shuffled across were about presentation and accountability, I believe.
As for why there might be more change, the club is/will be a long way short of the claims made about the business, despite some benefits from actually having management. These will tell in the end.0 -
Methven had no accountability as long as he had no formal title. Rodwell was in the way of that.KiwiValley said:
@Airman Brown could you please clarify / further explain what you meant by presentation and accountability? I can’t quite grasp the dynamic you’re describingAirman Brown said:
Rodwell positions himself as someone who transforms football businesses. Hence he doesn’t stay around. In his pursuit of a new role he’s told people that he has completed this at Charlton.ShootersHillGuru said:I’m interested by some of the comments suggesting there will be more to follow Scott. Who and why ?
It is interesting that on the one hand fans were told that people don’t tend to have expertise on both the business side and football side, yet at the same time he moved from one to the other at Charlton.
Despite his playing background, Rodwell’s experience is on the business side. The reasons he was shuffled across were about presentation and accountability, I believe.
As for why there might be more change, the club is/will be a long way short of the claims made about the business, despite some benefits from actually having management. These will tell in the end.4 -
Who will negotiate contracts and transfer fees? Or was someone else already doing that?Airman Brown said:
Doing what?Scoham said:Anyone know if we're looking to replace him?0 -
Yes that smells when you read that but we are know the things that went on during his tenure with us and the club won’t hammer him on their own official channels. Would be unprofessionalElfsborgAddick said:shirty5 said:A year too late but finally gone. Part of the problem why we had one of our worst seasons in the club’s history.
You'd not think so given his 'goodbye' to us.
What’s the next move from the owners when the non executive charirman hands in his next report or deal more from his last one0 -
You do know he was a Defender. But that being said could you imagine a Gibson corner with a Chappell header.golfaddick said:
As a striker ? He's got form.Mendonca In Asdas said:Hope Phil Chappell comes in.
15 goals in 141 games though tbf.
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I think Rodwell could handle that, while he’s here? I mean, he’s a senior exec on the football side. Apparently.Scoham said:
Who will negotiate contracts and transfer fees? Or was someone else already doing that?Airman Brown said:
Doing what?Scoham said:Anyone know if we're looking to replace him?2 - Sponsored links:
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Not needed. We don’t sign anyone now. We ‘streamline’.Scoham said:
Who will negotiate contracts and transfer fees? Or was someone else already doing that?Airman Brown said:
Doing what?Scoham said:Anyone know if we're looking to replace him?😉😆0 -
Oh you mean whilst Rodwell was exec chair or whatever he was that obfuscated Methven’s output and contribution or lack of? By shifting Rodwell there was more line of sight for the majority owners to Methven (now Chief Exec).Airman Brown said:
Methven had no accountability as long as he had no formal title. Rodwell was in the way of that.KiwiValley said:
@Airman Brown could you please clarify / further explain what you meant by presentation and accountability? I can’t quite grasp the dynamic you’re describingAirman Brown said:
Rodwell positions himself as someone who transforms football businesses. Hence he doesn’t stay around. In his pursuit of a new role he’s told people that he has completed this at Charlton.ShootersHillGuru said:I’m interested by some of the comments suggesting there will be more to follow Scott. Who and why ?
It is interesting that on the one hand fans were told that people don’t tend to have expertise on both the business side and football side, yet at the same time he moved from one to the other at Charlton.
Despite his playing background, Rodwell’s experience is on the business side. The reasons he was shuffled across were about presentation and accountability, I believe.
As for why there might be more change, the club is/will be a long way short of the claims made about the business, despite some benefits from actually having management. These will tell in the end.2 -
Sounds like there will be a replacement, but I’m guessing a bit of a restructure so not necessarily the same role.LouisMend said:0 -
scott and rodwell transformed us from mid table to nearly getting relegated - then NJ came in and transformed us into play off contendersvalleynick66 said:
Haven’t all the recent regimes claimed to have transformed/fixed the infrastructure and background stuff to varying degrees?Airman Brown said:
Rodwell positions himself as someone who transforms football businesses. Hence he doesn’t stay around. In his pursuit of a new role he’s told people that he has completed this at Charlton.ShootersHillGuru said:I’m interested by some of the comments suggesting there will be more to follow Scott. Who and why ?
It is interesting that on the one hand fans were told that people don’t tend to have expertise on both the business side and football side, yet at the same time he moved from one to the other at Charlton.
Despite his playing background, Rodwell’s experience is on the business side. The reasons he was shuffled across were about presentation and accountability, I believe.
As for why there might be more change, the club is/will be a long way short of the claims made about the business, despite some benefits from actually having management. These will tell in the end.It’s all bluster as you allude to.1 -
Nathan absolutely glowing in his praise of all the work Scott has done there!! 😉LouisMend said:15 -
it would be a brilliant move - i don't care all the chuff about how long he's been out of the game etc - the return of Curbs to a meaningful role at the club would generate a wave of positivity throughout the club and fansChunes said:If Curbs was made Director of Football, I'd be soaring through the clouds3 -
Not saying I wouldn’t love Curbs involved on some way - but positivity does not win you games sadly - ask Nigel Adkin’s.DOUCHER said:
it would be a brilliant move - i don't care all the chuff about how long he's been out of the game etc - the return of Curbs to a meaningful role at the club would generate a wave of positivity throughout the club and fansChunes said:If Curbs was made Director of Football, I'd be soaring through the clouds
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Not sure I'd want Curbs in the same way I didn't really want Jacko, Powell or Bowyer to come in as manager last season. I don't want any legacies being tainted. I also think it's valid to say he's been out the game too long. Could possibly see the benefit if someone like Pearce was the manager but want Jones need is a brilliant head scout and a director of football to handle negotiations and keep an eye on the academy. Two different roles, neither of which scream Curbs to me5
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There is still, as far as a I know, a sporting director at the club in the person of Simon Lenagan.
He was certainly announced as such some time ago.
Maybe he'll be more in the limelight now or perhaps he'll leave as well.3 -
Curbs as a board director in the way that Derek Ufton was, to offer occasional support and guidance from his vast experience and his network within football, yes.
As a working director of football I just can't see it. Not because he's not capable but he seems very comfortable in retirement so why take on an arduous full time roll now?18 -
Gavin Carter mentioned at the recent online fan meeting he speaks with Curbs, so more of a question whether there’d be more benefit in something more official.Henry Irving said:Curbs as a board director in the way that Derek Ufton was, to offer occasional support and guidance from his vast experience and his network within football, yes.
As a working director of football I just can't see it. Not because he's not capable but he seems very comfortable in retirement so why take on an arduous full time roll now?1 -
Hadn't noticed the phil chapple thread before - can't be a coincidence that scott leaves the week after chapple does a Q and A at Charlton - new head of recruitment incoming i'd say8
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I’m sure he played a couple of games upfront, when we had injuries, can anyone remember?JustFloydRoad said:
You do know he was a Defender. But that being said could you imagine a Gibson corner with a Chappell header.golfaddick said:
As a striker ? He's got form.Mendonca In Asdas said:Hope Phil Chappell comes in.
15 goals in 141 games though tbf.1 -
Currently director of football at Danish club Nykøbing FC.
If 'Technical' is really a thing I can't think of a better candidate.11 -
There is probably a place for Curbs in an advisory role somewhere at the club. But he should definitely not be the one to replace Scott in that type of role
I would have serious doubts whether Curbs wants to commit to a full time employment at this stage of his life and what would be a very demanding job. To me he seems quite happy doing bits and pieces punditry work and enjoying holidays/family time. Plus I’m not sure how clued up he is on players we’d be looking at for this level3 -
I doubt if Curbs wants a full-time job at 67 or that the SMT want someone with his insight and connections too close.DOUCHER said:
it would be a brilliant move - i don't care all the chuff about how long he's been out of the game etc - the return of Curbs to a meaningful role at the club would generate a wave of positivity throughout the club and fansChunes said:If Curbs was made Director of Football, I'd be soaring through the clouds5 -
No but bring phil chapple in as head of recruitment / deal thrasher and let curbs oversee things - no specific role / duties - give him title of DOF and just let him float about sprinkling some magicAirman Brown said:
I doubt if Curbs wants a full-time job at 67 or that the SMT want someone like him too close.DOUCHER said:
it would be a brilliant move - i don't care all the chuff about how long he's been out of the game etc - the return of Curbs to a meaningful role at the club would generate a wave of positivity throughout the club and fansChunes said:If Curbs was made Director of Football, I'd be soaring through the clouds1 -
NJ probably said more about his thoughts on Scott in what he didn’t say. Don’t think there’s any love lost there.
Sparing in his praise and moved straight on to what the plan is.9
