The way he treated Dobbo was unforgivable. Allowed the best club captain we’d had in years to walk away for free because he didn’t rate him. Amateurish.
I'm not here to defend Andy Scott but our midfield looks far better now than it ever did when Dobson was in the side.
I think the Dobson/Coventry, who is better debate is misleading. The fact is, we should have had both at the club. Dobbo wanted to stay and wasn’t asking for too much in wages. Instead we signed Alan Campbell on loan. That worked out well.
He wanted to stay so much he went and signed a ridiculous contract with another club.… there was no debate and has been proved Coventry a different level then Dobson.….
Doh! Obviously you didn’t read my post. We should have kept both, as he wanted to stay but was pushed out. Now a first team regular battling for the top two. Stop defending Scott, even the club have given up on that!
Replace Rodwell now and appoint a proper , well respected Director of Football / whatever you want to call it - someone Jones has faith in - the Gallen to his Bowyer , if you will . There must be some good people out there .
It’s a similar relationship to a GM an head coach in the NFL. Most new head coaches usually get to pick the GM they want to work with. It should be the same here.
Replace Rodwell now and appoint a proper , well respected Director of Football / whatever you want to call it - someone Jones has faith in - the Gallen to his Bowyer , if you will . There must be some good people out there .
It’s a similar relationship to a GM an head coach in the NFL. Most new head coaches usually get to pick the GM they want to work with. It should be the same here.
What's the GM's role in NFL - genuine question because I have no idea.
I’m interested by some of the comments suggesting there will be more to follow Scott. Who and why ?
Rodwell positions himself as someone who transforms football businesses. Hence he doesn’t stay around. In his pursuit of a new role he’s told people that he has completed this at Charlton.
It is interesting that on the one hand fans were told that people don’t tend to have expertise on both the business side and football side, yet at the same time he moved from one to the other at Charlton.
Despite his playing background, Rodwell’s experience is on the business side. The reasons he was shuffled across were about presentation and accountability, I believe.
As for why there might be more change, the club is/will be a long way short of the claims made about the business, despite some benefits from actually having management. These will tell in the end.
@Airman Brown could you please clarify / further explain what you meant by presentation and accountability? I can’t quite grasp the dynamic you’re describing
I’m interested by some of the comments suggesting there will be more to follow Scott. Who and why ?
Rodwell positions himself as someone who transforms football businesses. Hence he doesn’t stay around. In his pursuit of a new role he’s told people that he has completed this at Charlton.
It is interesting that on the one hand fans were told that people don’t tend to have expertise on both the business side and football side, yet at the same time he moved from one to the other at Charlton.
Despite his playing background, Rodwell’s experience is on the business side. The reasons he was shuffled across were about presentation and accountability, I believe.
As for why there might be more change, the club is/will be a long way short of the claims made about the business, despite some benefits from actually having management. These will tell in the end.
@Airman Brown could you please clarify / further explain what you meant by presentation and accountability? I can’t quite grasp the dynamic you’re describing
Methven had no accountability as long as he had no formal title. Rodwell was in the way of that.
A year too late but finally gone. Part of the problem why we had one of our worst seasons in the club’s history.
You'd not think so given his 'goodbye' to us.
Yes that smells when you read that but we are know the things that went on during his tenure with us and the club won’t hammer him on their own official channels. Would be unprofessional
What’s the next move from the owners when the non executive charirman hands in his next report or deal more from his last one
I’m interested by some of the comments suggesting there will be more to follow Scott. Who and why ?
Rodwell positions himself as someone who transforms football businesses. Hence he doesn’t stay around. In his pursuit of a new role he’s told people that he has completed this at Charlton.
It is interesting that on the one hand fans were told that people don’t tend to have expertise on both the business side and football side, yet at the same time he moved from one to the other at Charlton.
Despite his playing background, Rodwell’s experience is on the business side. The reasons he was shuffled across were about presentation and accountability, I believe.
As for why there might be more change, the club is/will be a long way short of the claims made about the business, despite some benefits from actually having management. These will tell in the end.
@Airman Brown could you please clarify / further explain what you meant by presentation and accountability? I can’t quite grasp the dynamic you’re describing
Methven had no accountability as long as he had no formal title. Rodwell was in the way of that.
Oh you mean whilst Rodwell was exec chair or whatever he was that obfuscated Methven’s output and contribution or lack of? By shifting Rodwell there was more line of sight for the majority owners to Methven (now Chief Exec).
I’m interested by some of the comments suggesting there will be more to follow Scott. Who and why ?
Rodwell positions himself as someone who transforms football businesses. Hence he doesn’t stay around. In his pursuit of a new role he’s told people that he has completed this at Charlton.
It is interesting that on the one hand fans were told that people don’t tend to have expertise on both the business side and football side, yet at the same time he moved from one to the other at Charlton.
Despite his playing background, Rodwell’s experience is on the business side. The reasons he was shuffled across were about presentation and accountability, I believe.
As for why there might be more change, the club is/will be a long way short of the claims made about the business, despite some benefits from actually having management. These will tell in the end.
Haven’t all the recent regimes claimed to have transformed/fixed the infrastructure and background stuff to varying degrees?
It’s all bluster as you allude to.
scott and rodwell transformed us from mid table to nearly getting relegated - then NJ came in and transformed us into play off contenders
If Curbs was made Director of Football, I'd be soaring through the clouds
it would be a brilliant move - i don't care all the chuff about how long he's been out of the game etc - the return of Curbs to a meaningful role at the club would generate a wave of positivity throughout the club and fans
If Curbs was made Director of Football, I'd be soaring through the clouds
it would be a brilliant move - i don't care all the chuff about how long he's been out of the game etc - the return of Curbs to a meaningful role at the club would generate a wave of positivity throughout the club and fans
Not saying I wouldn’t love Curbs involved on some way - but positivity does not win you games sadly - ask Nigel Adkin’s.
Not sure I'd want Curbs in the same way I didn't really want Jacko, Powell or Bowyer to come in as manager last season. I don't want any legacies being tainted. I also think it's valid to say he's been out the game too long. Could possibly see the benefit if someone like Pearce was the manager but want Jones need is a brilliant head scout and a director of football to handle negotiations and keep an eye on the academy. Two different roles, neither of which scream Curbs to me
Curbs as a board director in the way that Derek Ufton was, to offer occasional support and guidance from his vast experience and his network within football, yes.
As a working director of football I just can't see it. Not because he's not capable but he seems very comfortable in retirement so why take on an arduous full time roll now?
Curbs as a board director in the way that Derek Ufton was, to offer occasional support and guidance from his vast experience and his network within football, yes.
As a working director of football I just can't see it. Not because he's not capable but he seems very comfortable in retirement so why take on an arduous full time roll now?
Gavin Carter mentioned at the recent online fan meeting he speaks with Curbs, so more of a question whether there’d be more benefit in something more official.
Hadn't noticed the phil chapple thread before - can't be a coincidence that scott leaves the week after chapple does a Q and A at Charlton - new head of recruitment incoming i'd say
There is probably a place for Curbs in an advisory role somewhere at the club. But he should definitely not be the one to replace Scott in that type of role
I would have serious doubts whether Curbs wants to commit to a full time employment at this stage of his life and what would be a very demanding job. To me he seems quite happy doing bits and pieces punditry work and enjoying holidays/family time. Plus I’m not sure how clued up he is on players we’d be looking at for this level
If Curbs was made Director of Football, I'd be soaring through the clouds
it would be a brilliant move - i don't care all the chuff about how long he's been out of the game etc - the return of Curbs to a meaningful role at the club would generate a wave of positivity throughout the club and fans
I doubt if Curbs wants a full-time job at 67 or that the SMT want someone with his insight and connections too close.
If Curbs was made Director of Football, I'd be soaring through the clouds
it would be a brilliant move - i don't care all the chuff about how long he's been out of the game etc - the return of Curbs to a meaningful role at the club would generate a wave of positivity throughout the club and fans
I doubt if Curbs wants a full-time job at 67 or that the SMT want someone like him too close.
No but bring phil chapple in as head of recruitment / deal thrasher and let curbs oversee things - no specific role / duties - give him title of DOF and just let him float about sprinkling some magic
NJ probably said more about his thoughts on Scott in what he didn’t say. Don’t think there’s any love lost there. Sparing in his praise and moved straight on to what the plan is.
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Shows that players, nearly all of whom he signed, were loyal to him and distracted. Coventry prime example of that making the mistake for the goal.
What's the GM's role in NFL - genuine question because I have no idea.
What’s the next move from the owners when the non executive charirman hands in his next report or deal more from his last one
15 goals in 141 games though tbf.
He was certainly announced as such some time ago.
Maybe he'll be more in the limelight now or perhaps he'll leave as well.
As a working director of football I just can't see it. Not because he's not capable but he seems very comfortable in retirement so why take on an arduous full time roll now?
Currently director of football at Danish club Nykøbing FC.
If 'Technical' is really a thing I can't think of a better candidate.
I would have serious doubts whether Curbs wants to commit to a full time employment at this stage of his life and what would be a very demanding job. To me he seems quite happy doing bits and pieces punditry work and enjoying holidays/family time. Plus I’m not sure how clued up he is on players we’d be looking at for this level
Sparing in his praise and moved straight on to what the plan is.