January Transfer Window (rumours + actuals)

Braziliance said:

L0rd_M0ntagu3 said:

Braziliance said:

L0rd_M0ntagu3 said:

Braziliance said:

I had a ramble about it on the Charlton podcast, Charlton Chronicles, the one thing I don't want to see is us signing championship players. Unless it's a loan who is hungry to break into the team to be acknowledged by his parent club. 

Whenever we sign these championship rejects, they usually fail to deliver. All our best business in league1 recently, has mainly been picking up standout players for a cheap fee from clubs around us or below.

Alfie May, CBT, the snake, Lloyd Jones, Ricky Holmes, Dobson. 

I don't know what these scouts and recruitment specialists are paid to do, but I question their experience and football knowledge. Cause if we have one of the highest budgets in the league, and we can't identify the best players in this league then we have some serious issues. 

Far too much cash splunked on has beens and players who don't have the character to play for this club.

All the signings you’ve listed were summer signings, in most cases free transfers.

January is not the time to sign the best players in League One. Mainly, because clubs do not want to sell their best players to League rivals mid season. 

Also, while you mention the ones the league one signings that have worked out, there have been plenty that have not. 

Think DJ, Kirk, Sean Clare all cost fees from fellow League One clubs. 

I don’t care what league a player comes from at this point, former Championship players, former league one and former league two signings have all not worked out at times.

We should be aiming for Conor Coventry/Kayne Ramsay types, between 22 and 24. Doesn’t matter what league they are from, but they are more likely to be from above or below rather than fellow League One clubs as listed above. 

Out of those 3 though, Kirk was the only one who truly looked to work out. He had interest from I think Stoke, Sheffield United and a few others. It can be hit and miss.

The real consistent formula is when we sign players from the championship, and they come with a review of "should do a job in that league" it's very rare they do.

Braziliance said:

L0rd_M0ntagu3 said:

Braziliance said:

I had a ramble about it on the Charlton podcast, Charlton Chronicles, the one thing I don't want to see is us signing championship players. Unless it's a loan who is hungry to break into the team to be acknowledged by his parent club. 

Whenever we sign these championship rejects, they usually fail to deliver. All our best business in league1 recently, has mainly been picking up standout players for a cheap fee from clubs around us or below.

Alfie May, CBT, the snake, Lloyd Jones, Ricky Holmes, Dobson. 

I don't know what these scouts and recruitment specialists are paid to do, but I question their experience and football knowledge. Cause if we have one of the highest budgets in the league, and we can't identify the best players in this league then we have some serious issues. 

Far too much cash splunked on has beens and players who don't have the character to play for this club.

All the signings you’ve listed were summer signings, in most cases free transfers.

January is not the time to sign the best players in League One. Mainly, because clubs do not want to sell their best players to League rivals mid season. 

Also, while you mention the ones the league one signings that have worked out, there have been plenty that have not. 

Think DJ, Kirk, Sean Clare all cost fees from fellow League One clubs. 

I don’t care what league a player comes from at this point, former Championship players, former league one and former league two signings have all not worked out at times.

We should be aiming for Conor Coventry/Kayne Ramsay types, between 22 and 24. Doesn’t matter what league they are from, but they are more likely to be from above or below rather than fellow League One clubs as listed above. 

Out of those 3 though, Kirk was the only one who truly looked to work out. He had interest from I think Stoke, Sheffield United and a few others. It can be hit and miss.

The real consistent formula is when we sign players from the championship, and they come with a review of "should do a job in that league" it's very rare they do.

Good money was spent on DJ, so I think it was expected he would work out. The Kirk link with   Stoke and Sheff Utd came from Alan Nixon, so I would take that with a large pinch of salt. 

Recruitment is not an exact science, but to just write off signing championship players (especially in the January window) is a bit foolish. 

The money was spent because we missed out on other targets and Sandgaard wanted a marquee type of signing from what I understand? He didn't come with the same expectations as Charlie Kirk did. Kirk would have had championship interest just like any other player who is performing at a high level in league 1 will. DJ seemed much more of a punt. 

It's not foolish, it's very rare it works and we have wasted hundreds of thousands on has beens from that league.

If we sign a top performer from that league, it's different, but it's also completely unrealistic. Any championship side willing to let a player drop down a level, unless it for development purposes, is doing so for a reason. They're either crocked, washed or completely underperforming. It's very rare a player will change their trajectory like a Kermorgant.

We need players who are hungry and performing now, not players living off of past success. 

NabySarr said:

Red_Chester said:

I know Nathan jones doesn’t like loans but I wouldn’t be surprised if we got Daniel Imray on loan as he set to be recalled by palace to play in league 1 

NTT20 just did a piece on loan players that might be recalled and suggested exactly that. I don’t know much about Imray but his stats are certainly very good and we need a RWB 

Braziliance said:

L0rd_M0ntagu3 said:

Braziliance said:

L0rd_M0ntagu3 said:

Braziliance said:

L0rd_M0ntagu3 said:

Braziliance said:

I had a ramble about it on the Charlton podcast, Charlton Chronicles, the one thing I don't want to see is us signing championship players. Unless it's a loan who is hungry to break into the team to be acknowledged by his parent club. 

Whenever we sign these championship rejects, they usually fail to deliver. All our best business in league1 recently, has mainly been picking up standout players for a cheap fee from clubs around us or below.

Alfie May, CBT, the snake, Lloyd Jones, Ricky Holmes, Dobson. 

I don't know what these scouts and recruitment specialists are paid to do, but I question their experience and football knowledge. Cause if we have one of the highest budgets in the league, and we can't identify the best players in this league then we have some serious issues. 

Far too much cash splunked on has beens and players who don't have the character to play for this club.

All the signings you’ve listed were summer signings, in most cases free transfers.

January is not the time to sign the best players in League One. Mainly, because clubs do not want to sell their best players to League rivals mid season. 

Also, while you mention the ones the league one signings that have worked out, there have been plenty that have not. 

Think DJ, Kirk, Sean Clare all cost fees from fellow League One clubs. 

I don’t care what league a player comes from at this point, former Championship players, former league one and former league two signings have all not worked out at times.

We should be aiming for Conor Coventry/Kayne Ramsay types, between 22 and 24. Doesn’t matter what league they are from, but they are more likely to be from above or below rather than fellow League One clubs as listed above. 

Out of those 3 though, Kirk was the only one who truly looked to work out. He had interest from I think Stoke, Sheffield United and a few others. It can be hit and miss.

The real consistent formula is when we sign players from the championship, and they come with a review of "should do a job in that league" it's very rare they do.

Braziliance said:

L0rd_M0ntagu3 said:

Braziliance said:

I had a ramble about it on the Charlton podcast, Charlton Chronicles, the one thing I don't want to see is us signing championship players. Unless it's a loan who is hungry to break into the team to be acknowledged by his parent club. 

Whenever we sign these championship rejects, they usually fail to deliver. All our best business in league1 recently, has mainly been picking up standout players for a cheap fee from clubs around us or below.

Alfie May, CBT, the snake, Lloyd Jones, Ricky Holmes, Dobson. 

I don't know what these scouts and recruitment specialists are paid to do, but I question their experience and football knowledge. Cause if we have one of the highest budgets in the league, and we can't identify the best players in this league then we have some serious issues. 

Far too much cash splunked on has beens and players who don't have the character to play for this club.

All the signings you’ve listed were summer signings, in most cases free transfers.

January is not the time to sign the best players in League One. Mainly, because clubs do not want to sell their best players to League rivals mid season. 

Also, while you mention the ones the league one signings that have worked out, there have been plenty that have not. 

Think DJ, Kirk, Sean Clare all cost fees from fellow League One clubs. 

I don’t care what league a player comes from at this point, former Championship players, former league one and former league two signings have all not worked out at times.

We should be aiming for Conor Coventry/Kayne Ramsay types, between 22 and 24. Doesn’t matter what league they are from, but they are more likely to be from above or below rather than fellow League One clubs as listed above. 

Out of those 3 though, Kirk was the only one who truly looked to work out. He had interest from I think Stoke, Sheffield United and a few others. It can be hit and miss.

The real consistent formula is when we sign players from the championship, and they come with a review of "should do a job in that league" it's very rare they do.

Good money was spent on DJ, so I think it was expected he would work out. The Kirk link with   Stoke and Sheff Utd came from Alan Nixon, so I would take that with a large pinch of salt. 

Recruitment is not an exact science, but to just write off signing championship players (especially in the January window) is a bit foolish. 

The money was spent because we missed out on other targets and Sandgaard wanted a marquee type of signing from what I understand? He didn't come with the same expectations as Charlie Kirk did. Kirk would have had championship interest just like any other player who is performing at a high level in league 1 will. DJ seemed much more of a punt. 

It's not foolish, it's very rare it works and we have wasted hundreds of thousands on has beens from that league.

If we sign a top performer from that league, it's different, but it's also completely unrealistic. Any championship side willing to let a player drop down a level, unless it for development purposes, is doing so for a reason. They're either crocked, washed or completely underperforming. It's very rare a player will change their trajectory like a Kermorgant.

We need players who are hungry and performing now, not players living off of past success. 

You will not sign any top players from fellow League One sides in the January unless they are desperate for cash like a Reading. The only ones you will get are players that are out of favour and not performing (like Fraser three years back), to want us to go and sign the likes of O'Connor and Roughan from Lincoln is also completely unrealistic this window, for the exact reason you gave in that rant, it strengthens us and rival & weakens them.

We sold CBT, and we almost sold Dobson last January. It is possible, if you have the right ambition as a club. 

A club who have a player with a contract running down, who isn't looking to sign, will take a fee, if it's good enough. You could even argue it's the best time to sign a player as you avoid the summer competition entirely and get more time to integrate a player into your squad.

An ambitious club would do it in January to avoid summer competition and end the season strong. That's how I see it, unrealistic or not. 

Of course it will be not a buyers market, we can't buy players etc as usual. 

My post is also not strictly aimed at January, I am speaking about any transfer window. I don't want to see anymore championship has beens rock up at Charlton

fenaddick said:

Braziliance said:

L0rd_M0ntagu3 said:

Braziliance said:

L0rd_M0ntagu3 said:

Braziliance said:

L0rd_M0ntagu3 said:

Braziliance said:

I had a ramble about it on the Charlton podcast, Charlton Chronicles, the one thing I don't want to see is us signing championship players. Unless it's a loan who is hungry to break into the team to be acknowledged by his parent club. 

Whenever we sign these championship rejects, they usually fail to deliver. All our best business in league1 recently, has mainly been picking up standout players for a cheap fee from clubs around us or below.

Alfie May, CBT, the snake, Lloyd Jones, Ricky Holmes, Dobson. 

I don't know what these scouts and recruitment specialists are paid to do, but I question their experience and football knowledge. Cause if we have one of the highest budgets in the league, and we can't identify the best players in this league then we have some serious issues. 

Far too much cash splunked on has beens and players who don't have the character to play for this club.

All the signings you’ve listed were summer signings, in most cases free transfers.

January is not the time to sign the best players in League One. Mainly, because clubs do not want to sell their best players to League rivals mid season. 

Also, while you mention the ones the league one signings that have worked out, there have been plenty that have not. 

Think DJ, Kirk, Sean Clare all cost fees from fellow League One clubs. 

I don’t care what league a player comes from at this point, former Championship players, former league one and former league two signings have all not worked out at times.

We should be aiming for Conor Coventry/Kayne Ramsay types, between 22 and 24. Doesn’t matter what league they are from, but they are more likely to be from above or below rather than fellow League One clubs as listed above. 

Out of those 3 though, Kirk was the only one who truly looked to work out. He had interest from I think Stoke, Sheffield United and a few others. It can be hit and miss.

The real consistent formula is when we sign players from the championship, and they come with a review of "should do a job in that league" it's very rare they do.

Braziliance said:

L0rd_M0ntagu3 said:

Braziliance said:

I had a ramble about it on the Charlton podcast, Charlton Chronicles, the one thing I don't want to see is us signing championship players. Unless it's a loan who is hungry to break into the team to be acknowledged by his parent club. 

Whenever we sign these championship rejects, they usually fail to deliver. All our best business in league1 recently, has mainly been picking up standout players for a cheap fee from clubs around us or below.

Alfie May, CBT, the snake, Lloyd Jones, Ricky Holmes, Dobson. 

I don't know what these scouts and recruitment specialists are paid to do, but I question their experience and football knowledge. Cause if we have one of the highest budgets in the league, and we can't identify the best players in this league then we have some serious issues. 

Far too much cash splunked on has beens and players who don't have the character to play for this club.

All the signings you’ve listed were summer signings, in most cases free transfers.

January is not the time to sign the best players in League One. Mainly, because clubs do not want to sell their best players to League rivals mid season. 

Also, while you mention the ones the league one signings that have worked out, there have been plenty that have not. 

Think DJ, Kirk, Sean Clare all cost fees from fellow League One clubs. 

I don’t care what league a player comes from at this point, former Championship players, former league one and former league two signings have all not worked out at times.

We should be aiming for Conor Coventry/Kayne Ramsay types, between 22 and 24. Doesn’t matter what league they are from, but they are more likely to be from above or below rather than fellow League One clubs as listed above. 

Out of those 3 though, Kirk was the only one who truly looked to work out. He had interest from I think Stoke, Sheffield United and a few others. It can be hit and miss.

The real consistent formula is when we sign players from the championship, and they come with a review of "should do a job in that league" it's very rare they do.

Good money was spent on DJ, so I think it was expected he would work out. The Kirk link with   Stoke and Sheff Utd came from Alan Nixon, so I would take that with a large pinch of salt. 

Recruitment is not an exact science, but to just write off signing championship players (especially in the January window) is a bit foolish. 

The money was spent because we missed out on other targets and Sandgaard wanted a marquee type of signing from what I understand? He didn't come with the same expectations as Charlie Kirk did. Kirk would have had championship interest just like any other player who is performing at a high level in league 1 will. DJ seemed much more of a punt. 

It's not foolish, it's very rare it works and we have wasted hundreds of thousands on has beens from that league.

If we sign a top performer from that league, it's different, but it's also completely unrealistic. Any championship side willing to let a player drop down a level, unless it for development purposes, is doing so for a reason. They're either crocked, washed or completely underperforming. It's very rare a player will change their trajectory like a Kermorgant.

We need players who are hungry and performing now, not players living off of past success. 

You will not sign any top players from fellow League One sides in the January unless they are desperate for cash like a Reading. The only ones you will get are players that are out of favour and not performing (like Fraser three years back), to want us to go and sign the likes of O'Connor and Roughan from Lincoln is also completely unrealistic this window, for the exact reason you gave in that rant, it strengthens us and rival & weakens them.

We sold CBT, and we almost sold Dobson last January. It is possible, if you have the right ambition as a club. 

A club who have a player with a contract running down, who isn't looking to sign, will take a fee, if it's good enough. You could even argue it's the best time to sign a player as you avoid the summer competition entirely and get more time to integrate a player into your squad.

An ambitious club would do it in January to avoid summer competition and end the season strong. That's how I see it, unrealistic or not. 

Of course it will be not a buyers market, we can't buy players etc as usual. 

My post is also not strictly aimed at January, I am speaking about any transfer window. I don't want to see anymore championship has beens rock up at Charlton

and how well has CBT done for Derby? Think they’d argue we had their pants down 

fenaddick said:

Braziliance said:

L0rd_M0ntagu3 said:

Braziliance said:

L0rd_M0ntagu3 said:

Braziliance said:

L0rd_M0ntagu3 said:

Braziliance said:

I had a ramble about it on the Charlton podcast, Charlton Chronicles, the one thing I don't want to see is us signing championship players. Unless it's a loan who is hungry to break into the team to be acknowledged by his parent club. 

Whenever we sign these championship rejects, they usually fail to deliver. All our best business in league1 recently, has mainly been picking up standout players for a cheap fee from clubs around us or below.

Alfie May, CBT, the snake, Lloyd Jones, Ricky Holmes, Dobson. 

I don't know what these scouts and recruitment specialists are paid to do, but I question their experience and football knowledge. Cause if we have one of the highest budgets in the league, and we can't identify the best players in this league then we have some serious issues. 

Far too much cash splunked on has beens and players who don't have the character to play for this club.

All the signings you’ve listed were summer signings, in most cases free transfers.

January is not the time to sign the best players in League One. Mainly, because clubs do not want to sell their best players to League rivals mid season. 

Also, while you mention the ones the league one signings that have worked out, there have been plenty that have not. 

Think DJ, Kirk, Sean Clare all cost fees from fellow League One clubs. 

I don’t care what league a player comes from at this point, former Championship players, former league one and former league two signings have all not worked out at times.

We should be aiming for Conor Coventry/Kayne Ramsay types, between 22 and 24. Doesn’t matter what league they are from, but they are more likely to be from above or below rather than fellow League One clubs as listed above. 

Out of those 3 though, Kirk was the only one who truly looked to work out. He had interest from I think Stoke, Sheffield United and a few others. It can be hit and miss.

The real consistent formula is when we sign players from the championship, and they come with a review of "should do a job in that league" it's very rare they do.

Braziliance said:

L0rd_M0ntagu3 said:

Braziliance said:

I had a ramble about it on the Charlton podcast, Charlton Chronicles, the one thing I don't want to see is us signing championship players. Unless it's a loan who is hungry to break into the team to be acknowledged by his parent club. 

Whenever we sign these championship rejects, they usually fail to deliver. All our best business in league1 recently, has mainly been picking up standout players for a cheap fee from clubs around us or below.

Alfie May, CBT, the snake, Lloyd Jones, Ricky Holmes, Dobson. 

I don't know what these scouts and recruitment specialists are paid to do, but I question their experience and football knowledge. Cause if we have one of the highest budgets in the league, and we can't identify the best players in this league then we have some serious issues. 

Far too much cash splunked on has beens and players who don't have the character to play for this club.

All the signings you’ve listed were summer signings, in most cases free transfers.

January is not the time to sign the best players in League One. Mainly, because clubs do not want to sell their best players to League rivals mid season. 

Also, while you mention the ones the league one signings that have worked out, there have been plenty that have not. 

Think DJ, Kirk, Sean Clare all cost fees from fellow League One clubs. 

I don’t care what league a player comes from at this point, former Championship players, former league one and former league two signings have all not worked out at times.

We should be aiming for Conor Coventry/Kayne Ramsay types, between 22 and 24. Doesn’t matter what league they are from, but they are more likely to be from above or below rather than fellow League One clubs as listed above. 

Out of those 3 though, Kirk was the only one who truly looked to work out. He had interest from I think Stoke, Sheffield United and a few others. It can be hit and miss.

The real consistent formula is when we sign players from the championship, and they come with a review of "should do a job in that league" it's very rare they do.

Good money was spent on DJ, so I think it was expected he would work out. The Kirk link with   Stoke and Sheff Utd came from Alan Nixon, so I would take that with a large pinch of salt. 

Recruitment is not an exact science, but to just write off signing championship players (especially in the January window) is a bit foolish. 

The money was spent because we missed out on other targets and Sandgaard wanted a marquee type of signing from what I understand? He didn't come with the same expectations as Charlie Kirk did. Kirk would have had championship interest just like any other player who is performing at a high level in league 1 will. DJ seemed much more of a punt. 

It's not foolish, it's very rare it works and we have wasted hundreds of thousands on has beens from that league.

If we sign a top performer from that league, it's different, but it's also completely unrealistic. Any championship side willing to let a player drop down a level, unless it for development purposes, is doing so for a reason. They're either crocked, washed or completely underperforming. It's very rare a player will change their trajectory like a Kermorgant.

We need players who are hungry and performing now, not players living off of past success. 

You will not sign any top players from fellow League One sides in the January unless they are desperate for cash like a Reading. The only ones you will get are players that are out of favour and not performing (like Fraser three years back), to want us to go and sign the likes of O'Connor and Roughan from Lincoln is also completely unrealistic this window, for the exact reason you gave in that rant, it strengthens us and rival & weakens them.

We sold CBT, and we almost sold Dobson last January. It is possible, if you have the right ambition as a club. 

A club who have a player with a contract running down, who isn't looking to sign, will take a fee, if it's good enough. You could even argue it's the best time to sign a player as you avoid the summer competition entirely and get more time to integrate a player into your squad.

An ambitious club would do it in January to avoid summer competition and end the season strong. That's how I see it, unrealistic or not. 

Of course it will be not a buyers market, we can't buy players etc as usual. 

My post is also not strictly aimed at January, I am speaking about any transfer window. I don't want to see anymore championship has beens rock up at Charlton

and how well has CBT done for Derby? Think they’d argue we had their pants down 

Braziliance said:

fenaddick said:

Braziliance said:

L0rd_M0ntagu3 said:

Braziliance said:

L0rd_M0ntagu3 said:

Braziliance said:

L0rd_M0ntagu3 said:

Braziliance said:

I had a ramble about it on the Charlton podcast, Charlton Chronicles, the one thing I don't want to see is us signing championship players. Unless it's a loan who is hungry to break into the team to be acknowledged by his parent club. 

Whenever we sign these championship rejects, they usually fail to deliver. All our best business in league1 recently, has mainly been picking up standout players for a cheap fee from clubs around us or below.

Alfie May, CBT, the snake, Lloyd Jones, Ricky Holmes, Dobson. 

I don't know what these scouts and recruitment specialists are paid to do, but I question their experience and football knowledge. Cause if we have one of the highest budgets in the league, and we can't identify the best players in this league then we have some serious issues. 

Far too much cash splunked on has beens and players who don't have the character to play for this club.

All the signings you’ve listed were summer signings, in most cases free transfers.

January is not the time to sign the best players in League One. Mainly, because clubs do not want to sell their best players to League rivals mid season. 

Also, while you mention the ones the league one signings that have worked out, there have been plenty that have not. 

Think DJ, Kirk, Sean Clare all cost fees from fellow League One clubs. 

I don’t care what league a player comes from at this point, former Championship players, former league one and former league two signings have all not worked out at times.

We should be aiming for Conor Coventry/Kayne Ramsay types, between 22 and 24. Doesn’t matter what league they are from, but they are more likely to be from above or below rather than fellow League One clubs as listed above. 

Out of those 3 though, Kirk was the only one who truly looked to work out. He had interest from I think Stoke, Sheffield United and a few others. It can be hit and miss.

The real consistent formula is when we sign players from the championship, and they come with a review of "should do a job in that league" it's very rare they do.

Braziliance said:

L0rd_M0ntagu3 said:

Braziliance said:

I had a ramble about it on the Charlton podcast, Charlton Chronicles, the one thing I don't want to see is us signing championship players. Unless it's a loan who is hungry to break into the team to be acknowledged by his parent club. 

Whenever we sign these championship rejects, they usually fail to deliver. All our best business in league1 recently, has mainly been picking up standout players for a cheap fee from clubs around us or below.

Alfie May, CBT, the snake, Lloyd Jones, Ricky Holmes, Dobson. 

I don't know what these scouts and recruitment specialists are paid to do, but I question their experience and football knowledge. Cause if we have one of the highest budgets in the league, and we can't identify the best players in this league then we have some serious issues. 

Far too much cash splunked on has beens and players who don't have the character to play for this club.

All the signings you’ve listed were summer signings, in most cases free transfers.

January is not the time to sign the best players in League One. Mainly, because clubs do not want to sell their best players to League rivals mid season. 

Also, while you mention the ones the league one signings that have worked out, there have been plenty that have not. 

Think DJ, Kirk, Sean Clare all cost fees from fellow League One clubs. 

I don’t care what league a player comes from at this point, former Championship players, former league one and former league two signings have all not worked out at times.

We should be aiming for Conor Coventry/Kayne Ramsay types, between 22 and 24. Doesn’t matter what league they are from, but they are more likely to be from above or below rather than fellow League One clubs as listed above. 

Out of those 3 though, Kirk was the only one who truly looked to work out. He had interest from I think Stoke, Sheffield United and a few others. It can be hit and miss.

The real consistent formula is when we sign players from the championship, and they come with a review of "should do a job in that league" it's very rare they do.

Good money was spent on DJ, so I think it was expected he would work out. The Kirk link with   Stoke and Sheff Utd came from Alan Nixon, so I would take that with a large pinch of salt. 

Recruitment is not an exact science, but to just write off signing championship players (especially in the January window) is a bit foolish. 

The money was spent because we missed out on other targets and Sandgaard wanted a marquee type of signing from what I understand? He didn't come with the same expectations as Charlie Kirk did. Kirk would have had championship interest just like any other player who is performing at a high level in league 1 will. DJ seemed much more of a punt. 

It's not foolish, it's very rare it works and we have wasted hundreds of thousands on has beens from that league.

If we sign a top performer from that league, it's different, but it's also completely unrealistic. Any championship side willing to let a player drop down a level, unless it for development purposes, is doing so for a reason. They're either crocked, washed or completely underperforming. It's very rare a player will change their trajectory like a Kermorgant.

We need players who are hungry and performing now, not players living off of past success. 

You will not sign any top players from fellow League One sides in the January unless they are desperate for cash like a Reading. The only ones you will get are players that are out of favour and not performing (like Fraser three years back), to want us to go and sign the likes of O'Connor and Roughan from Lincoln is also completely unrealistic this window, for the exact reason you gave in that rant, it strengthens us and rival & weakens them.

We sold CBT, and we almost sold Dobson last January. It is possible, if you have the right ambition as a club. 

A club who have a player with a contract running down, who isn't looking to sign, will take a fee, if it's good enough. You could even argue it's the best time to sign a player as you avoid the summer competition entirely and get more time to integrate a player into your squad.

An ambitious club would do it in January to avoid summer competition and end the season strong. That's how I see it, unrealistic or not. 

Of course it will be not a buyers market, we can't buy players etc as usual. 

My post is also not strictly aimed at January, I am speaking about any transfer window. I don't want to see anymore championship has beens rock up at Charlton

and how well has CBT done for Derby? Think they’d argue we had their pants down 

What league are Derby in?

Besides missing my main point, that you absolutely can buy other teams best players in January for the right amount. 

Usually a desperate club, but that's what we appear to be at times I suppose. 

Braziliance said:

fenaddick said:

Braziliance said:

fenaddick said:

Braziliance said:

L0rd_M0ntagu3 said:

Braziliance said:

L0rd_M0ntagu3 said:

Braziliance said:

L0rd_M0ntagu3 said:

Braziliance said:

I had a ramble about it on the Charlton podcast, Charlton Chronicles, the one thing I don't want to see is us signing championship players. Unless it's a loan who is hungry to break into the team to be acknowledged by his parent club. 

Whenever we sign these championship rejects, they usually fail to deliver. All our best business in league1 recently, has mainly been picking up standout players for a cheap fee from clubs around us or below.

Alfie May, CBT, the snake, Lloyd Jones, Ricky Holmes, Dobson. 

I don't know what these scouts and recruitment specialists are paid to do, but I question their experience and football knowledge. Cause if we have one of the highest budgets in the league, and we can't identify the best players in this league then we have some serious issues. 

Far too much cash splunked on has beens and players who don't have the character to play for this club.

All the signings you’ve listed were summer signings, in most cases free transfers.

January is not the time to sign the best players in League One. Mainly, because clubs do not want to sell their best players to League rivals mid season. 

Also, while you mention the ones the league one signings that have worked out, there have been plenty that have not. 

Think DJ, Kirk, Sean Clare all cost fees from fellow League One clubs. 

I don’t care what league a player comes from at this point, former Championship players, former league one and former league two signings have all not worked out at times.

We should be aiming for Conor Coventry/Kayne Ramsay types, between 22 and 24. Doesn’t matter what league they are from, but they are more likely to be from above or below rather than fellow League One clubs as listed above. 

Out of those 3 though, Kirk was the only one who truly looked to work out. He had interest from I think Stoke, Sheffield United and a few others. It can be hit and miss.

The real consistent formula is when we sign players from the championship, and they come with a review of "should do a job in that league" it's very rare they do.

Braziliance said:

L0rd_M0ntagu3 said:

Braziliance said:

I had a ramble about it on the Charlton podcast, Charlton Chronicles, the one thing I don't want to see is us signing championship players. Unless it's a loan who is hungry to break into the team to be acknowledged by his parent club. 

Whenever we sign these championship rejects, they usually fail to deliver. All our best business in league1 recently, has mainly been picking up standout players for a cheap fee from clubs around us or below.

Alfie May, CBT, the snake, Lloyd Jones, Ricky Holmes, Dobson. 

I don't know what these scouts and recruitment specialists are paid to do, but I question their experience and football knowledge. Cause if we have one of the highest budgets in the league, and we can't identify the best players in this league then we have some serious issues. 

Far too much cash splunked on has beens and players who don't have the character to play for this club.

All the signings you’ve listed were summer signings, in most cases free transfers.

January is not the time to sign the best players in League One. Mainly, because clubs do not want to sell their best players to League rivals mid season. 

Also, while you mention the ones the league one signings that have worked out, there have been plenty that have not. 

Think DJ, Kirk, Sean Clare all cost fees from fellow League One clubs. 

I don’t care what league a player comes from at this point, former Championship players, former league one and former league two signings have all not worked out at times.

We should be aiming for Conor Coventry/Kayne Ramsay types, between 22 and 24. Doesn’t matter what league they are from, but they are more likely to be from above or below rather than fellow League One clubs as listed above. 

Out of those 3 though, Kirk was the only one who truly looked to work out. He had interest from I think Stoke, Sheffield United and a few others. It can be hit and miss.

The real consistent formula is when we sign players from the championship, and they come with a review of "should do a job in that league" it's very rare they do.

Good money was spent on DJ, so I think it was expected he would work out. The Kirk link with   Stoke and Sheff Utd came from Alan Nixon, so I would take that with a large pinch of salt. 

Recruitment is not an exact science, but to just write off signing championship players (especially in the January window) is a bit foolish. 

The money was spent because we missed out on other targets and Sandgaard wanted a marquee type of signing from what I understand? He didn't come with the same expectations as Charlie Kirk did. Kirk would have had championship interest just like any other player who is performing at a high level in league 1 will. DJ seemed much more of a punt. 

It's not foolish, it's very rare it works and we have wasted hundreds of thousands on has beens from that league.

If we sign a top performer from that league, it's different, but it's also completely unrealistic. Any championship side willing to let a player drop down a level, unless it for development purposes, is doing so for a reason. They're either crocked, washed or completely underperforming. It's very rare a player will change their trajectory like a Kermorgant.

We need players who are hungry and performing now, not players living off of past success. 

You will not sign any top players from fellow League One sides in the January unless they are desperate for cash like a Reading. The only ones you will get are players that are out of favour and not performing (like Fraser three years back), to want us to go and sign the likes of O'Connor and Roughan from Lincoln is also completely unrealistic this window, for the exact reason you gave in that rant, it strengthens us and rival & weakens them.

We sold CBT, and we almost sold Dobson last January. It is possible, if you have the right ambition as a club. 

A club who have a player with a contract running down, who isn't looking to sign, will take a fee, if it's good enough. You could even argue it's the best time to sign a player as you avoid the summer competition entirely and get more time to integrate a player into your squad.

An ambitious club would do it in January to avoid summer competition and end the season strong. That's how I see it, unrealistic or not. 

Of course it will be not a buyers market, we can't buy players etc as usual. 

My post is also not strictly aimed at January, I am speaking about any transfer window. I don't want to see anymore championship has beens rock up at Charlton

and how well has CBT done for Derby? Think they’d argue we had their pants down 

What league are Derby in?

Besides missing my main point, that you absolutely can buy other teams best players in January for the right amount. 

Usually a desperate club, but that's what we appear to be at times I suppose. 

My point was that often they're available in January for a reason. Derby weren't promoted because of CBT. I don't have the time to look back on it but I think players who move between L1 teams in January don't tend to do well that season

CBT was available because a better club with more money was interested. They were interested because he was arguably our best player other than May. 

It's not like we announced he was for sale, Derby wanted him. Irrespective of how he did, he was good enough for them to spend the cash, and they're now at a higher level, I'm sure they don't mind. 

There will be players like CBT, in this current league playing for Lincoln, Peterborough, Orient, Stevenage etc, who will be looking to move on, and will improve us. They're who the club should be looking to buy, that's all I'm saying. 

fenaddick said:

Braziliance said:

fenaddick said:

Braziliance said:

L0rd_M0ntagu3 said:

Braziliance said:

L0rd_M0ntagu3 said:

Braziliance said:

L0rd_M0ntagu3 said:

Braziliance said:

I had a ramble about it on the Charlton podcast, Charlton Chronicles, the one thing I don't want to see is us signing championship players. Unless it's a loan who is hungry to break into the team to be acknowledged by his parent club. 

Whenever we sign these championship rejects, they usually fail to deliver. All our best business in league1 recently, has mainly been picking up standout players for a cheap fee from clubs around us or below.

Alfie May, CBT, the snake, Lloyd Jones, Ricky Holmes, Dobson. 

I don't know what these scouts and recruitment specialists are paid to do, but I question their experience and football knowledge. Cause if we have one of the highest budgets in the league, and we can't identify the best players in this league then we have some serious issues. 

Far too much cash splunked on has beens and players who don't have the character to play for this club.

All the signings you’ve listed were summer signings, in most cases free transfers.

January is not the time to sign the best players in League One. Mainly, because clubs do not want to sell their best players to League rivals mid season. 

Also, while you mention the ones the league one signings that have worked out, there have been plenty that have not. 

Think DJ, Kirk, Sean Clare all cost fees from fellow League One clubs. 

I don’t care what league a player comes from at this point, former Championship players, former league one and former league two signings have all not worked out at times.

We should be aiming for Conor Coventry/Kayne Ramsay types, between 22 and 24. Doesn’t matter what league they are from, but they are more likely to be from above or below rather than fellow League One clubs as listed above. 

Out of those 3 though, Kirk was the only one who truly looked to work out. He had interest from I think Stoke, Sheffield United and a few others. It can be hit and miss.

The real consistent formula is when we sign players from the championship, and they come with a review of "should do a job in that league" it's very rare they do.

Braziliance said:

L0rd_M0ntagu3 said:

Braziliance said:

I had a ramble about it on the Charlton podcast, Charlton Chronicles, the one thing I don't want to see is us signing championship players. Unless it's a loan who is hungry to break into the team to be acknowledged by his parent club. 

Whenever we sign these championship rejects, they usually fail to deliver. All our best business in league1 recently, has mainly been picking up standout players for a cheap fee from clubs around us or below.

Alfie May, CBT, the snake, Lloyd Jones, Ricky Holmes, Dobson. 

I don't know what these scouts and recruitment specialists are paid to do, but I question their experience and football knowledge. Cause if we have one of the highest budgets in the league, and we can't identify the best players in this league then we have some serious issues. 

Far too much cash splunked on has beens and players who don't have the character to play for this club.

All the signings you’ve listed were summer signings, in most cases free transfers.

January is not the time to sign the best players in League One. Mainly, because clubs do not want to sell their best players to League rivals mid season. 

Also, while you mention the ones the league one signings that have worked out, there have been plenty that have not. 

Think DJ, Kirk, Sean Clare all cost fees from fellow League One clubs. 

I don’t care what league a player comes from at this point, former Championship players, former league one and former league two signings have all not worked out at times.

We should be aiming for Conor Coventry/Kayne Ramsay types, between 22 and 24. Doesn’t matter what league they are from, but they are more likely to be from above or below rather than fellow League One clubs as listed above. 

Out of those 3 though, Kirk was the only one who truly looked to work out. He had interest from I think Stoke, Sheffield United and a few others. It can be hit and miss.

The real consistent formula is when we sign players from the championship, and they come with a review of "should do a job in that league" it's very rare they do.

Good money was spent on DJ, so I think it was expected he would work out. The Kirk link with   Stoke and Sheff Utd came from Alan Nixon, so I would take that with a large pinch of salt. 

Recruitment is not an exact science, but to just write off signing championship players (especially in the January window) is a bit foolish. 

The money was spent because we missed out on other targets and Sandgaard wanted a marquee type of signing from what I understand? He didn't come with the same expectations as Charlie Kirk did. Kirk would have had championship interest just like any other player who is performing at a high level in league 1 will. DJ seemed much more of a punt. 

It's not foolish, it's very rare it works and we have wasted hundreds of thousands on has beens from that league.

If we sign a top performer from that league, it's different, but it's also completely unrealistic. Any championship side willing to let a player drop down a level, unless it for development purposes, is doing so for a reason. They're either crocked, washed or completely underperforming. It's very rare a player will change their trajectory like a Kermorgant.

We need players who are hungry and performing now, not players living off of past success. 

You will not sign any top players from fellow League One sides in the January unless they are desperate for cash like a Reading. The only ones you will get are players that are out of favour and not performing (like Fraser three years back), to want us to go and sign the likes of O'Connor and Roughan from Lincoln is also completely unrealistic this window, for the exact reason you gave in that rant, it strengthens us and rival & weakens them.

We sold CBT, and we almost sold Dobson last January. It is possible, if you have the right ambition as a club. 

A club who have a player with a contract running down, who isn't looking to sign, will take a fee, if it's good enough. You could even argue it's the best time to sign a player as you avoid the summer competition entirely and get more time to integrate a player into your squad.

An ambitious club would do it in January to avoid summer competition and end the season strong. That's how I see it, unrealistic or not. 

Of course it will be not a buyers market, we can't buy players etc as usual. 

My post is also not strictly aimed at January, I am speaking about any transfer window. I don't want to see anymore championship has beens rock up at Charlton

and how well has CBT done for Derby? Think they’d argue we had their pants down 

What league are Derby in?

Besides missing my main point, that you absolutely can buy other teams best players in January for the right amount. 

Usually a desperate club, but that's what we appear to be at times I suppose. 

My point was that often they're available in January for a reason. Derby weren't promoted because of CBT. I don't have the time to look back on it but I think players who move between L1 teams in January don't tend to do well that season

Braziliance said:

On that note, Huddersfield just signed a player for a fee in the window where money can't be spent. 

https://x.com/htafc/status/1873104132690583646?t=MZdLYGc3q5GYXhxIWcUkLQ&s=19

From the Dutch top flight as well. That's what billionaire owners do. 

Braziliance said:

On that note, Huddersfield just signed a player for a fee in the window where money can't be spent. 

https://x.com/htafc/status/1873104132690583646?t=MZdLYGc3q5GYXhxIWcUkLQ&s=19

From the Dutch top flight as well. That's what billionaire owners do. 

Braziliance said:

DRAddick said:

Because crowds equate to extra income. And in a league with low prize/TV money it becomes far more important and influential for the quality of player you can get and the strength of the league overall. In the PL and championship (even the 3rd division arguably) crowds are less important for some clubs finances and there is a far bigger risk to reward for owners to get their clubs into stupid levels of debt.

JBG left the 8th placed team for us, a mid table 2nd division team at the time, what does that tell you? We're hardly a major attraction as a club, even back then.

On saying all this neither of us actually know anything about the individual player so can't say what level  he is. We'll find out.

But there are clubs who do well with tickets and still in debt? I genuinely don't understand what you're getting at about their average attendance. They're still in the top flight so will play football to a very decent standard, 

It tells me he was looking to use us as a stepping stone to the Premier league. Mission accomplished. Championship wages are higher than most Dutch teams. He didn't leave AZ to specifically play for Charlton, he left to test himself in a league where if you stand out, you reach the promised land. 

Which I'd like to see more of, players using us to get to the higher divisions, not players looking for an easy pay day, which is what we are. 

No I don't. My point was, a club has spent money in January, which shows it can be done. Huddersfield also have a squad the exact same size as ours so don't seem to worried about this weird excuse of a squad being bloated. 

This is where there are experts who should be being paid to figure out loopholes and ways around expenditure. Not blokes who ain't got a clue other than thinking half and half scarves are a good idea for revenue. 

SouthLincsAddick said:

Braziliance said:

I had a ramble about it on the Charlton podcast, Charlton Chronicles, the one thing I don't want to see is us signing championship players. Unless it's a loan who is hungry to break into the team to be acknowledged by his parent club. 

Whenever we sign these championship rejects, they usually fail to deliver. All our best business in league1 recently, has mainly been picking up standout players for a cheap fee from clubs around us or below.

Alfie May, CBT, the snake, Lloyd Jones, Ricky Holmes, Dobson. 

I don't know what these scouts and recruitment specialists are paid to do, but I question their experience and football knowledge. Cause if we have one of the highest budgets in the league, and we can't identify the best players in this league then we have some serious issues. 

Far too much cash splunked on has beens and players who don't have the character to play for this club.

And yet signing Championship rejects seems to be Andy Scott’s only strategy, leading to two of the most disappointing seasons in our recent history.

Braziliance said:

On that note, Huddersfield just signed a player for a fee in the window where money can't be spent. 

https://x.com/htafc/status/1873104132690583646?t=MZdLYGc3q5GYXhxIWcUkLQ&s=19

From the Dutch top flight as well. That's what billionaire owners do.