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POST-MATCH THREAD: Bristol Rovers v Charlton Athletic: Tuesday 1st October 2024 KO 19:45

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  • 1968CAFC
    1968CAFC Posts: 578

    God after 50 years of support and disappointment after Churbs I am honestly getting feb up with this SHIT 😭😭😭😭👎👎👎👎
  • 1968CAFC
    1968CAFC Posts: 578

    CURBS 
  • Croydon
    Croydon Posts: 12,735
    "Jones: "We created enough chances to actually have got something from the game - we shouldn't have got something from the game because we were 3-0 down.

    But we've had the chances.""

    lol
    He's lost me. I cannot stand the bloke. 
  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 33,643
    We sold Alfie May for this. 
    According to Charlie, yes we did on the recommendation of Jones 
    We can see what Charlie now thinks as he will be at the Bromley Addicks meeting on Thursday. Tough questions to be answered. 
  • KettsJohn
    KettsJohn Posts: 1,211
    October looks a really difficult month now. NJ is suggesting he picked the wrong players and tactics so got it spectacularly wrong. Be interesting to see how many changes he does make Saturday. Quite a few I would imagine. Just really disappointed with how it's going now. 
  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,733
    edited October 2024
    I think that if we have a forward line that pose problems other areas will work better. We paid a lot of money for Ahadme so it is hard to accept he isn't doing it. Campbell was a masterstroke that hasn't come off because he doesn't know how to play as a striker. Set piece delivery is a joke. Coventry is ok outside of that but we have to bring that into the side. Watson is weak and so is Edun. If the solution is to bring either of them in, we need our bumps feeling.
  • IR94
    IR94 Posts: 750
    mannion cant be constantly beaten against so called worldies, Anderson had a shocker against Cambridge in the cup and has started ever since, where is the logic?
    godden looks like the only one who can score, yet Gas who doesn't even look like getting a shot still starts every game
  • As others have already mentioned, how many are surprised by this?  So many Tues nights have been like this? If we did not pay money for Coventry we surely did not pay cash for Ahadme? Would sleep better at night if someone could inform us of the 'real' fee for him.
    What is also scary is the Aneke points have now gone.
    After a good start I think we are exactly where we were last season. 
  • mascot88
    mascot88 Posts: 9,638
    I don't want to talk about it 
  • Nadou
    Nadou Posts: 1,725
    Earlier in the season people were saying, I don't care about winning ugly, some were even welcoming it - "I love winning ugly". What they failed to see was that it was ugly and lucky - apart from Bolton, our wins could easily have been draws. And luck can run out, as we've seen. Ugly stays ugly.

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  • Leuth
    Leuth Posts: 23,331
    IR94 said:
    mannion cant be constantly beaten against so called worldies, Anderson had a shocker against Cambridge in the cup and has started ever since, where is the logic?
    godden looks like the only one who can score, yet Gas who doesn't even look like getting a shot still starts every game
    No keeper would have saved those, c'mon 
  • Leuth said:
    CAFCTrev said:
    Pretty horrific result, now 3 losses on the trot with unbeaten Birmingham to come on Saturday. 
    And I don't fancy us to get anything against Stockport either, could well be 5 losses on the trot.
    Then Barnsley and Wrexham. We could lose 7 in a row. Exeter won't be a pushover after that and then we have Peterborough and Huddersfield. Jones won't see in December 
    That run of games looks brutal for a team all at sea at the moment.

    Home vs 1st
    Home vs 5th
    Away vs 7th
    Home vs 2nd

    We'll have to be MASSIVELY better than we are at the moment to win any of those, or even get a point.


  • IR94
    IR94 Posts: 750
    Leuth said:
    IR94 said:
    mannion cant be constantly beaten against so called worldies, Anderson had a shocker against Cambridge in the cup and has started ever since, where is the logic?
    godden looks like the only one who can score, yet Gas who doesn't even look like getting a shot still starts every game
    No keeper would have saved those, c'mon 
    maybe no, but throughout the season he has constantly been beaten from outside the box, it cant constantly be worldies 
  • lonman
    lonman Posts: 254
    Wow.....where to start??

    The final score is VERY flattering!!!!!

    Unbelievably I'm starting to think Jones may well be gone by Christmas. 

    Tonight's  performance is as bad as It gets.

    Something has gone horribly wrong somewhere.  Its very strange how we've got so bad so quickly
    As I said Saturday. We've been poor all season, nicking games 1-0 papered over the cracks. Roll on Saturday.
  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,733
    edited October 2024
    Nadou said:
    Earlier in the season people were saying, I don't care about winning ugly, some were even welcoming it - "I love winning ugly". What they failed to see was that it was ugly and lucky - apart from Bolton, our wins could easily have been draws. And luck can run out, as we've seen. Ugly stays ugly.
    I don't think it was ugly and lucky in so far as we were stopping teams having chances. We were unlucky that we had worldies going in from outside the box against us if anything. But the lack of attacking options was an issue from the off. Jones tried to do something about it after Shrewsbury but probably should have waited on Leaburn and maybe even Dixon. He has created this poor spell of results IMO.
  • Leuth
    Leuth Posts: 23,331
    Leuth said:
    CAFCTrev said:
    Pretty horrific result, now 3 losses on the trot with unbeaten Birmingham to come on Saturday. 
    And I don't fancy us to get anything against Stockport either, could well be 5 losses on the trot.
    Then Barnsley and Wrexham. We could lose 7 in a row. Exeter won't be a pushover after that and then we have Peterborough and Huddersfield. Jones won't see in December 
    That run of games looks brutal for a team all at sea at the moment.

    Home vs 1st
    Home vs 5th
    Away vs 7th
    Home vs 2nd

    We'll have to be MASSIVELY better than we are at the moment to win any of those, or even get a point.


    It's scary. I genuinely think we'll be in the drop zone come December 
  • Briston_Addick
    Briston_Addick Posts: 11,736
    edited October 2024
    Leuth said:
    CAFCTrev said:
    Pretty horrific result, now 3 losses on the trot with unbeaten Birmingham to come on Saturday. 
    And I don't fancy us to get anything against Stockport either, could well be 5 losses on the trot.
    Then Barnsley and Wrexham. We could lose 7 in a row. Exeter won't be a pushover after that and then we have Peterborough and Huddersfield. Jones won't see in December 
    Blimey, there's a chance that Rooney might last longer this season than Jones!

    Who had that in the sweepstake?!
  • Leuth
    Leuth Posts: 23,331
    IR94 said:
    Leuth said:
    IR94 said:
    mannion cant be constantly beaten against so called worldies, Anderson had a shocker against Cambridge in the cup and has started ever since, where is the logic?
    godden looks like the only one who can score, yet Gas who doesn't even look like getting a shot still starts every game
    No keeper would have saved those, c'mon 
    maybe no, but throughout the season he has constantly been beaten from outside the box, it cant constantly be worldies 
    When the nearest midfielder is Luke Berry (sorry to keep prosecuting this vendetta) and you're 25 yards out, you're going to be able to get your strike away without much trouble 
  • EastTerrace
    EastTerrace Posts: 3,961
    And Karoy dropped way too
    deep and didn’t see the danger 
  • IR94
    IR94 Posts: 750
    Leuth said:
    I genuinely think there should be a club ban on signing players aged over 26
    the ones signed under 26 are pretty shit as well to be fair

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  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,785
    Nadou said:
    Earlier in the season people were saying, I don't care about winning ugly, some were even welcoming it - "I love winning ugly". What they failed to see was that it was ugly and lucky - apart from Bolton, our wins could easily have been draws. And luck can run out, as we've seen. Ugly stays ugly.
    Just as easily as those wins could’ve been draws, these recent losses could also have been draws on another day.
  • I just want to know which player, within the current squad, does anyone (Including NJ) think can solve our lack of creativity in midfield problems?
    Aside from maybe Taylor (who I've seen very little of) I cannot see the answer.
    Did Jones overestimate the effectiveness of our wingbacks, or Berry, Docherty or Anderson?
    I'd love to know where he imagined the goal scoring chances were going to be created from.
    I as a layman, and many others on here it seems, could see that we were desperately lacking an attacking, creative midfielder, yet it appeared to be totally ignored by the recruitment team.
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,785
    edited October 2024
    Leuth said:
    CAFCTrev said:
    Pretty horrific result, now 3 losses on the trot with unbeaten Birmingham to come on Saturday. 
    And I don't fancy us to get anything against Stockport either, could well be 5 losses on the trot.
    Then Barnsley and Wrexham. We could lose 7 in a row. Exeter won't be a pushover after that and then we have Peterborough and Huddersfield. Jones won't see in December 
    That run of games looks brutal for a team all at sea at the moment.

    Home vs 1st
    Home vs 5th
    Away vs 7th
    Home vs 2nd

    We'll have to be MASSIVELY better than we are at the moment to win any of those, or even get a point.


    True Charlton fashion: four wins from four when everyone is doom and gloom.
  • Nadou said:
    Earlier in the season people were saying, I don't care about winning ugly, some were even welcoming it - "I love winning ugly". What they failed to see was that it was ugly and lucky - apart from Bolton, our wins could easily have been draws. And luck can run out, as we've seen. Ugly stays ugly.
    I don't think it was ugly and lucky in so far as we were stopping teams having chances. We were unlucky that we had worldies going in from outside the box against us if anything. But the lack of attacking options was an issue from the off. Jones tried to do something about it after Shrewsbury but probably should have waited on Leaburn and maybe even Dixon. He has created this poor spell of results IMO.
    Or he should have brought in a bit of midfield flair in the window, instead of signing journeyman midfielders and former Luton players.
  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,733
    edited October 2024
    I just want to know which player, within the current squad, does anyone (Including NJ) think can solve our lack of creativity in midfield problems?
    Aside from maybe Taylor (who I've seen very little of) I cannot see the answer.
    Did Jones overestimate the effectiveness of our wingbacks, or Berry, Docherty or Anderson?
    I'd love to know where he imagined the goal scoring chances were going to be created from.
    I as a layman, and many others on here it seems, could see that we were desperately lacking an attacking, creative midfielder, yet it appeared to be totally ignored by the recruitment team.
    If we create chances we have too many whose career stats tell us they will miss them. We have too many missers in the side. The problem is, Berry, Godden and Leaburn are our only established players who are not career missers. Aneke gets goals but can be a bit of a misser too but he scores a few because he does get chances. How many chances have Campbell and Ahadme missed? That tells a story, They are our strikers and are not even missers because they don't get any chances. We need to go back to focusing on defence for now. Re-introduce the press (where did that go) and rely on our opponents making errors.
  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 33,643
    edited October 2024
    fenaddick said:
    He says that he got it wrong.....made changes & got it wrong.

    But he did that against Blackpool when he dropped Mitchell, and then he changed it again last Saturday at Stevenage. Changed it again tonight & got it wrong again.  Now he'll have to change it yet again this Saturday against Brum. Will he get it right this time ?

    The new tinker man. 
  • fenaddick said:
    He says that he got it wrong.....made changes & got it wrong.

    But he did that against Blackpool when he dropped Mitchell, and then he changed it again last Saturday at Stevenage. Changed it again tonight & got it wrong again.  Now he'll have to change it yet again this Saturday against Brum. Will he get it right this time ?

    The new tinker man. 
    I think, what he's trying to say is "I haven't got a scooby"
  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 33,643
    Scoham said:
    Concerning he’s still talking about winning battles and aggression - yes it’s very important, but they also played better football than us. The late goals papered over that.

    Full interview https://www.charltonafc.com/video/player/0_ujrtrnir


    "I got it wrong tonight. I changed it. I've not done that before".

    Great......so are we some kind of experiment. 

    Fucking Welsh windbag !
  • MrOneLung
    MrOneLung Posts: 26,862
    At least he has sorted out our defence …
  • paulsturgess
    paulsturgess Posts: 3,817
    Leuth said:
    CAFCTrev said:
    Pretty horrific result, now 3 losses on the trot with unbeaten Birmingham to come on Saturday. 
    And I don't fancy us to get anything against Stockport either, could well be 5 losses on the trot.
    Then Barnsley and Wrexham. We could lose 7 in a row. Exeter won't be a pushover after that and then we have Peterborough and Huddersfield. Jones won't see in December 
    That run of games looks brutal for a team all at sea at the moment.

    Home vs 1st
    Home vs 5th
    Away vs 7th
    Home vs 2nd

    We'll have to be MASSIVELY better than we are at the moment to win any of those, or even get a point.


    True Charlton fashion: four wins from four when everyone is doom and gloom.
    Admin, please ban this troll, he’s given himself away. No way this guy is a Charlton fan