Scott Fraser - pg 36 - left by mutual consent
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Cray Valley Paper Mills who famously drew away against a League One side last season? Cray Valley Paper Mills who saw Scott Fraser play against them? Not a chance.Stewart said:se9addick said:Who were the five English clubs mad enough to make a bid for him?!Cray Valley Paper MillsCorinthian CasualsBiggleswade TownWimborneand Bamber BridgeAre my guesses
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I understand both side and missus come first. However, he could have come to an agreement with the club a long time ago and come to an agreement to terminate his contract. He has been at MK, Ipswich and now us/ If he wanted to move to Scotland, why did he accept a contract with us. The guy did fuck all with us.0
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I think he did, no? Mutually cancelling a contract wasn't in his favour, financially. That said, had a championship team come in and offered to treble the wages....I wonder what the tipping point was!golfaddick said:
So, could he not resign. Buy himself out of his contract & make himself a fee agent. I expect he could if he really wanted to. So family is everything.....until it's not. Another player having the club over a barrel.Henry Irving said:
The club accepted offers that he'd already told them he didn't want and wouldn't accept.ElfsborgAddick said:And they accepted offers from other clubs.
“That’s why I probably got more frustrated than I’d ever been because I’d explained to them that I wasn’t trying to get a better move or more money or anything like that,” Fraser added.
“It was purely a family situation. I get football is a business and you pay for players blah, blah, blah…
“I thought I made it clear and as professionally as I could that it was a family choice.
“But they accepted four or five offers from English clubs. I’d reiterated to them for the best part of a year, over a year, that I didn’t want any other English club.
“I wanted to go home.
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So we did the right thing and accepted offers, and he is still not happy, ffs.
It is not our fault that clubs in Scotland either did not come in for him, or offer enough money.
He's not a piece of meat, he's a human being with a family.
Either way, I think he comes off ok in this interview and best of luck to the bloke.1 -
Wasn't it?Cloudworm said:
I think he did, no? Mutually cancelling a contract wasn't in his favour, financially. That said, had a championship team come in and offered to treble the wages....I wonder what the tipping point was!golfaddick said:
So, could he not resign. Buy himself out of his contract & make himself a fee agent. I expect he could if he really wanted to. So family is everything.....until it's not. Another player having the club over a barrel.Henry Irving said:
The club accepted offers that he'd already told them he didn't want and wouldn't accept.ElfsborgAddick said:And they accepted offers from other clubs.
“That’s why I probably got more frustrated than I’d ever been because I’d explained to them that I wasn’t trying to get a better move or more money or anything like that,” Fraser added.
“It was purely a family situation. I get football is a business and you pay for players blah, blah, blah…
“I thought I made it clear and as professionally as I could that it was a family choice.
“But they accepted four or five offers from English clubs. I’d reiterated to them for the best part of a year, over a year, that I didn’t want any other English club.
“I wanted to go home.
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So we did the right thing and accepted offers, and he is still not happy, ffs.
It is not our fault that clubs in Scotland either did not come in for him, or offer enough money.
He's not a piece of meat, he's a human being with a family.
Either way, I think he comes off ok in this interview and best of luck to the bloke.0 -
This, spot on.Henry Irving said:
The club accepted offers that he'd already told them he didn't want and wouldn't accept.ElfsborgAddick said:And they accepted offers from other clubs.
“That’s why I probably got more frustrated than I’d ever been because I’d explained to them that I wasn’t trying to get a better move or more money or anything like that,” Fraser added.
“It was purely a family situation. I get football is a business and you pay for players blah, blah, blah…
“I thought I made it clear and as professionally as I could that it was a family choice.
“But they accepted four or five offers from English clubs. I’d reiterated to them for the best part of a year, over a year, that I didn’t want any other English club.
“I wanted to go home.
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So we did the right thing and accepted offers, and he is still not happy, ffs.
It is not our fault that clubs in Scotland either did not come in for him, or offer enough money.
He's not a piece of meat, he's a human being with a family.5 -
On the bench for Dundee today0
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If the club start rejecting offers, it puts out the idea he's not available.Henry Irving said:
The club accepted offers that he'd already told them he didn't want and wouldn't accept.ElfsborgAddick said:And they accepted offers from other clubs.
“That’s why I probably got more frustrated than I’d ever been because I’d explained to them that I wasn’t trying to get a better move or more money or anything like that,” Fraser added.
“It was purely a family situation. I get football is a business and you pay for players blah, blah, blah…
“I thought I made it clear and as professionally as I could that it was a family choice.
“But they accepted four or five offers from English clubs. I’d reiterated to them for the best part of a year, over a year, that I didn’t want any other English club.
“I wanted to go home.
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So we did the right thing and accepted offers, and he is still not happy, ffs.
It is not our fault that clubs in Scotland either did not come in for him, or offer enough money.
He's not a piece of meat, he's a human being with a family.
It's up to Scott to reject the offers from the clubs.
I'm not sure how much emotional harm was done to Scott by having X amount of clubs putting in bids for him.4 -
He isnt a piece of meat but he signed the contract!Henry Irving said:
The club accepted offers that he'd already told them he didn't want and wouldn't accept.ElfsborgAddick said:And they accepted offers from other clubs.
“That’s why I probably got more frustrated than I’d ever been because I’d explained to them that I wasn’t trying to get a better move or more money or anything like that,” Fraser added.
“It was purely a family situation. I get football is a business and you pay for players blah, blah, blah…
“I thought I made it clear and as professionally as I could that it was a family choice.
“But they accepted four or five offers from English clubs. I’d reiterated to them for the best part of a year, over a year, that I didn’t want any other English club.
“I wanted to go home.
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So we did the right thing and accepted offers, and he is still not happy, ffs.
It is not our fault that clubs in Scotland either did not come in for him, or offer enough money.
He's not a piece of meat, he's a human being with a family.1 -
£500 grand though. Blimey! I'm guessing most footballers rule the roost but in Scott's case, once pregnant his Missus takes over. Maybe it explains his halfhearted performances last year.0
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Wasnt t he looking for a decorator in the Dundee area in January, hope he found one, or if he didn’t at least he’ll have a bit more time to do some painting.0
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thewolfboy said:£500 grand though. Blimey! I'm guessing most footballers rule the roost but in Scott's case, once pregnant his Missus takes over. Maybe it explains his halfhearted performances last year.
If he put as much effort on the pitch as he did in the bedroom perhaps he could have been transferred a lot earlier.
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Coventry has also covered every blade of grass, made countless tackles and interceptions and almost never given it away. I won't bother asking if Fraser could have even approximated thisShowmetheway2gohome said:Think people talking utter bollocks here his got more creativity than all our midfield put together.Coventry hasn’t hit one of our players with a set piece all season.6 -
Yep - as borne out by the amount of goals and assists he got for us last seas........ oh, hang on.Showmetheway2gohome said:Think people talking utter bollocks here his got more creativity than all our midfield put together.Coventry hasn’t hit one of our players with a set piece all season.
Perhaps it was his crunching tackles and tenacity that made him such a firm fans fav....... oh, hang on.
Nope. As you were. He was shit for us.1 -
If Coventry hadn't had to take a single set-piece this season we'd all be talking about him as a shoo-in for POTY1
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People still talk. I'm sure most people right now would say Lloyd Jones is a shoo-in for POTY (although if you ask me he's got the easiest job on the pitch)JohnnyH2 said:
How can anyone be a shoo-in for POTY at the end of September?Leuth said:If Coventry hadn't had to take a single set-piece this season we'd all be talking about him as a shoo-in for POTY3 -
If it was Hector, though... Total shoe-in!Leuth said:
People still talk. I'm sure most people right now would say Lloyd Jones is a shoo-in for POTY (although if you ask me he's got the easiest job on the pitch)JohnnyH2 said:
How can anyone be a shoo-in for POTY at the end of September?Leuth said:If Coventry hadn't had to take a single set-piece this season we'd all be talking about him as a shoo-in for POTY
I don't think anyone has played so well thus far that people are talking about POTY awards. Maybe when (if) general performances improve.0 -
The best player so far has been Lloyd Jones.0
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The best player will be whoever gets us going in the opposition third1
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Well ideally no, unless he plays loads of killer passes! But nobody has got us going yet, going forward, in any way whatsoeverwmcf123 said:
So not the deep lying midfielder then.Leuth said:The best player will be whoever gets us going in the opposition third
I agree with your earlier point about Lloyd Jones- playing in the middle of a back 5 is dead easy.0 -
I think the comparison with Alfie May is worth bearing in mind. Alfie also wanted to move away because of family circumstances and was allowed to do so by the club. He didn't down tools and sulk. If Fraser had made more of an effort after his first season and a half, he might have been in a better position to get Hearts or another Scottish club to pay a higher price for him. Instead Fraser has played any serious football for the best part of the year and now only has short term contract with Dundee that I guess isn't that lucrative - I hope he thinks that the payoff he got from Charlton was worth it.
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Alfie May earned the opportunity to have a great contract offer for him at a higher ranking club than ours (currently). Always gave 100% and delivered more than most Charlton players we’ve seen in the past 10 years.
This joker was given one of the best contracts we’ve offered a player in years yet played most games at about 70% effort and then wants to whinge about it.6 -
Moving into setting up an academy in Dundee
https://www.controlfootballacademy.com/contact?fbclid=IwZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAAR01GlsQ1KNqeFQ9UVXZCi-IVYkF7_re2-G0CZ0Yht-FN9bIKjlnM2LeAS4_aem_pCpi70D9WH-tJo_4MvZmOg
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Slightly surprised he can summon up the energy3
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Only 29, very young to be setting up an academy.0
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Thierry Small already has one.killerandflash said:Only 29, very young to be setting up an academy.
https://www.instagram.com/thierrysmallacademy?igsh=MTBvaWd6MTZuZzBpYg==
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As it's based in Birmingham, I can't imagine he'd be very hands on with it, outside of the summer holidays.Scoham said:
Thierry Small already has one.killerandflash said:Only 29, very young to be setting up an academy.
https://www.instagram.com/thierrysmallacademy?igsh=MTBvaWd6MTZuZzBpYg==0 -
He was there midweek recently, must be putting in the mileskillerandflash said:
As it's based in Birmingham, I can't imagine he'd be very hands on with it, outside of the summer holidays.Scoham said:
Thierry Small already has one.killerandflash said:Only 29, very young to be setting up an academy.
https://www.instagram.com/thierrysmallacademy?igsh=MTBvaWd6MTZuZzBpYg==0 -
So, signing for Derby County in the summer, then?fenaddick said:
He was there midweek recently, must be putting in the mileskillerandflash said:
As it's based in Birmingham, I can't imagine he'd be very hands on with it, outside of the summer holidays.Scoham said:
Thierry Small already has one.killerandflash said:Only 29, very young to be setting up an academy.
https://www.instagram.com/thierrysmallacademy?igsh=MTBvaWd6MTZuZzBpYg==
I'm sure this has happened before recently...1
