Absolutely baffling denouement to his Charlton career. How the fuck did someone who looked a class above a couple years back become so, SO bad?
Hope he has a good reset north of the border or something. Wonder if there's some sort of footballing mental block at play that a clean break can see him get over.
Absolutely baffling denouement to his Charlton career. How the fuck did someone who looked a class above a couple years back become so, SO bad?
Hope he has a good reset north of the border or something. Wonder if there's some sort of footballing mental block at play that a clean break can see him get over.
I'm guessing a bit here but I suspect being paid more than you ever have before on a long contract takes away some motivation and then living hundreds of miles away from your family is the cherry on top. Not that I'm excusing it at all but I do understand how it happens
Certainly seen worse in recent memory, but he was a constant disappointment and someone many fans gave a free pass, despite becoming almost entirely immobile.
Awww we won’t get to see that look of shock on his face anymore when someone takes the ball off of him on in our half after he has spent about 5 seconds turning on the spot 😂
Great to see him finally gone. Synonymous with the failed transfer policy of many years now. Overpaid, overrated and simply didn’t work hard enough, and it obvious he thought he could get by by putting the bare minimum in
Granted he had a lot of other equally mediocre players around him in that time, managerial change, but very happy to see him go
At his best he was an influential player who scored, created and could deliver a wonderful dead ball but for whatever reason he lost his mojo with us a while ago.
The constant changes in personell, five or six different managers and possibly most important to him, the quite reasonable desire to be with his family can't have helped and mean that this is good for him and good for us.
Doesn't fit Jones' style of play and while there is probably a small financial advantage to us ie the pay off is less than what another year of his wages would have been, it suits Scott too in that he gets a lump sum, will presumably get a longer contract on a lower wages in Scotland and is with his wife and children.
Meanwhile, we don't have an unhappy and unwanted player around the place although there is no indication that he has ever been anything less than professional at the training ground.
At least something was achieved on the final day. Unhappy players are like poison. Harry Redknapp said half the players at QPR loved him, they were the ones involved. The rest hated him Lol
I never understand the hatred towards a player when they get a contract at CAFC that they can't live up to. Kirk and Fraser both appeared decent signings at the time(I didn't know much about Kirk)but ended in failure. Charlie started off poor and then feel away ! Fraser had some decent moments but was too easy to knock off the ball. Both Scott and Charlie are the antithesis of the type of players that Nathan Jones wants at CAFC.
Any one who tell a player to "fuck off" on-line reflects more on them than the player.
I'm pleased both players have moved on even if CAFC had to take a Financial hit.
Had one decent season for us but came across as a player who used to see himself as a top L1 player and had ambitions of playing in the Championship, but has now given up on that and will happily go back to Scotland.
Understandable why he’d put his family first, but not what you want in a squad aiming for promotion.
If he was as good as we hoped Ipswich wouldn’t have sold him to us.
Even at his best he lacked the qualities NJ wants in players, and he wasn’t so good creatively that you’d make allowances and build a team around him.
High hopes when we got him but he couldn't get in Ipswich's side so we probably should have heeded that warning. Glad he's gone and we are not paying his wages anymore, an instantly forgettable player.
One of those players that undoubtedly has that bit of skill that most other lower league players don't have. And on his day can be a play maker. But doesn't actually have any days, doesn't give a shit either, and isn't going to fight for anything.
Good luck to him, I hope now he is back with his family he can kick start his performances.. Let's see if he ends up at Dundee. Reminds me of the midfielder we had that was homesick for up north and ended up at Brighton, or the case for Dowie ending up at Charlton.
I do wonder withFraser, not withstanding he was poor for Ipswich, if the bout of covid permanently affected his energy levels
When his name's mentioned in a few years time I'll think 'decorator guy' rather than anything specific he did for us on the pitch. That's pretty damning for a marquee signing.
I spent hours separating the good apples from the bad in my garden yesterday. It now serves as an anology for the new Charlton team management, thank God, at last.
Certainly seen worse in recent memory, but he was a constant disappointment and someone many fans gave a free pass, despite becoming almost entirely immobile.
Good luck to him, I hope now he is back with his family he can kick start his performances.. Let's see if he ends up at Dundee. Reminds me of the midfielder we had that was homesick for up north and ended up at Brighton, or the case for Dowie ending up at Charlton.
I do wonder withFraser, not withstanding he was poor for Ipswich, if the bout of covid permanently affected his energy levels
To be fair to Fraser, he was signed by Ipswich to play CM but their playing style didn't accommodate him, and invariably was used wide midfield. With his lack of pace and playing out of position, that was never going to get the best out of him.
That's a very good point about the Covid @K@Kap10 I believe I read that Fraser is asthmatic. I remember soon after he signed, he went down with Covid and was out for quite a long time, no surprise really if he is asthmatic.
It may be a good reason as to why he had no engine.
BTW don't think I've a soft spot for him. Just there's always context to be taken into consideration.
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Hope he has a good reset north of the border or something. Wonder if there's some sort of footballing mental block at play that a clean break can see him get over.
Shame he wasn't playing for us at the time
Granted he had a lot of other equally mediocre players around him in that time, managerial change, but very happy to see him go
The constant changes in personell, five or six different managers and possibly most important to him, the quite reasonable desire to be with his family can't have helped and mean that this is good for him and good for us.
Doesn't fit Jones' style of play and while there is probably a small financial advantage to us ie the pay off is less than what another year of his wages would have been, it suits Scott too in that he gets a lump sum, will presumably get a longer contract on a lower wages in Scotland and is with his wife and children.
Meanwhile, we don't have an unhappy and unwanted player around the place although there is no indication that he has ever been anything less than professional at the training ground.
Best wishes and good luck, Scott.
Kirk and Fraser both appeared decent signings at the time(I didn't know much about Kirk)but ended in failure. Charlie started off poor and then feel away ! Fraser had some decent moments but was too easy to knock off the ball. Both Scott and Charlie are the antithesis of the type of players that Nathan Jones wants at CAFC.
Any one who tell a player to "fuck off" on-line reflects more on them than the player.
I'm pleased both players have moved on even if CAFC had to take a Financial hit.
Had been playing down south since the 18/19 season so took a bit for his home sickness to kick in and effect his game.
Well, will always have the memory of league one's best playmaker, the Scottish Pirlo, being brushed aside by Cray valley paper mill.
Thanks Scotty.
We lost 1-0 at the Valley when he was MOM but in the reverse fixture at MK dons, Pratley, man marked him out of the game and from memory we won 1-0.
Understandable why he’d put his family first, but not what you want in a squad aiming for promotion.
If he was as good as we hoped Ipswich wouldn’t have sold him to us.
Even at his best he lacked the qualities NJ wants in players, and he wasn’t so good creatively that you’d make allowances and build a team around him.
I do wonder withFraser, not withstanding he was poor for Ipswich, if the bout of covid permanently affected his energy levels
This scenario arises because they've been rubbish, and no one else wants them or is willing to gamble a reasonable amount of money on them.
It now serves as an anology for the new Charlton team management, thank God, at last.
With his lack of pace and playing out of position, that was never going to get the best out of him.
That's a very good point about the Covid @K@Kap10
I believe I read that Fraser is asthmatic. I remember soon after he signed, he went down with Covid and was out for quite a long time, no surprise really if he is asthmatic.
It may be a good reason as to why he had no engine.
BTW don't think I've a soft spot for him.
Just there's always context to be taken into consideration.