Aug 2024 Transfer Window Deadline Day Thread

I can see Birmingham, languishing 'only' 5th or 6th, firing this guy and approaching the manager of one of the teams in the top 3 in an attempt to sabotage them. Nathan, hope you're feeling comfy here... 

ShootersHillGuru said:

LargeAddick said:

Spending money guarantees nothing. I don't get the Brum are certainties to go up lark.

No it doesn’t guarantee success but it’s still a decent indicator of what’s likely to happen. They’ll have good quality all through the team and probably in depth too. At least as good as any other league one team and better than the vast majority. Can’t see anything other than top two sadly. There are only two footballers clubs that I loathe more and we know who they are. 

But money aside, if you asked the question are Birminghams current side any better than Boltons side last year? I would say no. Did Bolton get promoted? 

cafc_se7 said:

ShootersHillGuru said:

LargeAddick said:

Spending money guarantees nothing. I don't get the Brum are certainties to go up lark.

No it doesn’t guarantee success but it’s still a decent indicator of what’s likely to happen. They’ll have good quality all through the team and probably in depth too. At least as good as any other league one team and better than the vast majority. Can’t see anything other than top two sadly. There are only two footballers clubs that I loathe more and we know who they are. 

But money aside, if you asked the question are Birminghams current side any better than Boltons side last year? I would say no. Did Bolton get promoted? 

On paper, yes they are... but you don't win games on paper. A lot of foreign signings who should be way too good for this league, but who knows if they'll settle in

killerandflash said:

This window has been a bit of a reality check for Wrexham, I'm sure they weren't expecting to only sign one relatively unknown striker in the last week.

I did see  a Parkinson quote yesterday morning -  we have enough in our budget for one more signing . 😮
So that’s another window of Hollywood talk with very little action. 😂

Crispy said:

Cannot express how happy I would be if Birmingham didn’t go up

Well…..they have certainly put a massive fuck-off sized target on their back.

RonnieMoore said:

NabySarr said:

Still think we need to sign Potts, or another left sided centre back. Otherwise we are one injury to Gillesphey away from disaster 

Not really that’s why Ramsey played most of pre season the left side of the 3 … 

RamsAy 

Todds_right_hook said:

RonnieMoore said:

NabySarr said:

Still think we need to sign Potts, or another left sided centre back. Otherwise we are one injury to Gillesphey away from disaster 

Not really that’s why Ramsey played most of pre season the left side of the 3 … 

RamsAy 

Positive spelling?

soapy_jones said:

eastterrace6168 said:

RonnieMoore said:

FFP … does not include Birmingham clearly 

.....🤦‍♂️

There are certain football clubs where the rules seem to be more loosely applied, Sheffield Wednesday spring immediately to mind.  Birmingham  City i would contend sit safely i  that little group.

owners can put as much money as they like into a club in league 1. The spending limit is based on a percentage of turn over, that is wages of all staff, players and running costs including buying player contracts. excepted from this is academy costs.
Turn over is all the usual income generators, plus gifts, or equity investments, that is for example buying shares in the club.  What counts against a club is money acquired as a loan or a charge on the clubs assets.
So as long as the Birmingham owners are willing to risk a lossof10million pounds a season from their own money they are not breaking the rules.
This is as I understand it after reading through the EFL governance for league 1 clubs.

I’ll riot if we sign Hylton. Might as well sign me. 

Todds_right_hook said:

So Birmingham spend £10m in league 1 with the league 1 player getting to watch the pizza cup. Celtic break their transfer record with an £11m signing who gets European football. Crazy

20 million 

killerandflash said:

This window has been a bit of a reality check for Wrexham, I'm sure they weren't expecting to only sign one relatively unknown striker in the last week.

Wrexham have hit that ceiling: money is not everything, because there is even more money out there,

NorthernLights said:

killerandflash said:

I'm sure the EFL (or rather the clubs in the EFL) will change the rules to prevent Birmingham style spending in L1. Ludicrous when the biggest fee in the EFL ever is in L1.

I'm not sure they can do anything about it. The EFL is a private members' club, meaning that the rules are created and agreed by its members. Therefore, a consensus must be reached in order to change those rules, and turkeys tend not to vote for Christmas. Sadly, there are lots of other wannabe turkeys out there.

I can't imagine the other 23 clubs in L1 think Birmingham's level expenditure is a good thing, ditto the 24 in L2, while there will be clubs in the Championship thinking that it's grossly unfair that a L1 club can spend money that a Championship club isn't allowed to.

Covered_End_Lad said:

redman said:

Aren't there still financial rules in League 1? How can Birmingham pay that and not break them? 

There are but only judged against turnover, club owners can put money in as equity to add to that turnover, any money put in as a loan cannot be counted. So effectively at this level you can spend what you like if the owners are happy to lose it.

Had forgotten that, thanks.