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  • CAFCsayer
    CAFCsayer Posts: 10,223



    This one keeps dragging me into the pub, not sure why he like it in there so muhc
  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,344
    edited May 2024

    We haven’t managed to get Boots to the beach yet.
    He still gets sick in the car.
    Any advice gladly received 🙏🏻💚
    There's better advice on the thread, but my best mate has to give his dog a relaxant (vet prescribed some kind of gel they rub on his gums - the dog not my mate) and the dog pretty much sleeps the journey now. Takes about 2 hours to wear off, less time if you get him out in the fresh air and moving. 

  • T_C_E
    T_C_E Posts: 16,418
    “A Relaxant “ ie “A sedative” 
    it’s not a cure it’s a means to an end.
    Time, love and patience is a cure not a tablet. 
    Sadly a lot of people want a quick fix, they are animals not robots.
    I get asked all the time “how long does it take to get a dog trained to the standard my dogs are at? 
    The answer is the dogs age, everyday is training day, it’s all about repetition.
    Everyday my dogs visit the school, when the lead goes on and the doors open there is an acceptable level of behaviour, replace that with getting in the car everyday and you will get your results.
    It’s easy to prescribe and administer a tablet but how many people check to see want that tablet contains or it’s side effects on our animals? Many flea treatments contain chemicals with potential horrific side effects but we give them to our animals because they are advertising them on tv, so they must be ok.
    Wrong, in some cases it’s the toss of a coin, your animal maybe ok it may not it’s that simple.

  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,728
    T_C_E said:
    “A Relaxant “ ie “A sedative” 
    it’s not a cure it’s a means to an end.
    Time, love and patience is a cure not a tablet. 
    Sadly a lot of people want a quick fix, they are animals not robots.
    I get asked all the time “how long does it take to get a dog trained to the standard my dogs are at? 
    The answer is the dogs age, everyday is training day, it’s all about repetition.
    Everyday my dogs visit the school, when the lead goes on and the doors open there is an acceptable level of behaviour, replace that with getting in the car everyday and you will get your results.
    It’s easy to prescribe and administer a tablet but how many people check to see want that tablet contains or it’s side effects on our animals? Many flea treatments contain chemicals with potential horrific side effects but we give them to our animals because they are advertising them on tv, so they must be ok.
    Wrong, in some cases it’s the toss of a coin, your animal maybe ok it may not it’s that simple.

    Yes, the vets kept pushing flea treatment for JJ. But he hated it and would be angry with us for a day or two after. I asked advice on here and you pointed out we were effectively administering poison to the dog once a month. He has caught fleas a couple of times since but we give him a bath with a suitable shampoo and get rid of them. I suppose it helps he has a short coat and we give him a regular check with a nit comb which he absolutely loves.
  • arny23394
    arny23394 Posts: 1,180
    T_C_E said:
    “A Relaxant “ ie “A sedative” 
    it’s not a cure it’s a means to an end.
    Time, love and patience is a cure not a tablet. 
    Sadly a lot of people want a quick fix, they are animals not robots.
    I get asked all the time “how long does it take to get a dog trained to the standard my dogs are at? 
    The answer is the dogs age, everyday is training day, it’s all about repetition.
    Everyday my dogs visit the school, when the lead goes on and the doors open there is an acceptable level of behaviour, replace that with getting in the car everyday and you will get your results.
    It’s easy to prescribe and administer a tablet but how many people check to see want that tablet contains or it’s side effects on our animals? Many flea treatments contain chemicals with potential horrific side effects but we give them to our animals because they are advertising them on tv, so they must be ok.
    Wrong, in some cases it’s the toss of a coin, your animal maybe ok it may not it’s that simple.

    How do you go about keeping fleas at bay? My pup seems to have sensitive skin so I'd prefer to not have to use frontline or whatever. 
  • T_C_E
    T_C_E Posts: 16,418
    If your asking what I use?
    I use garlic.
    A crushed clove of garlic once a month in their food twice a month in the warmer months, obviously regular grooming (daily) or twice daily in the warmer months will also help keep ticks at bay. (apple cider vinegar is also a help in their water)
    Again be advised garlic is a part of the onion family which is toxic to dogs but quantities are relevant to the dogs size and I have 50kg dogs. 
    Another way to naturally treat your animals is Diatomaceous Earth is a non-toxic way to protect your dog from fleas, worms and internal parasites and is available from lot of outlets (google is your friend).
    Just sprinkled/mixed in their food.
    Just for the record, a charity our Therapy dogs used to represent had a photographic competition which Valli won with the photo below.
    The following year all Raw fed and naturally treated (No jabs, flea treatments etc) dogs were told their membership was no longer valid, no surprises the charities board was made up of high ranking directors of pharmaceutical companies and kibble manufacturers.
    You can make your own judgement on what the agenda is there!


  • ElfsborgAddick
    ElfsborgAddick Posts: 29,031
    CAFCsayer said:



    This one keeps dragging me into the pub, not sure why he like it in there so muhc
    The boozer is at the top of the mountain?

    Gorgeous pooch, I love brown four legged friends.
  • T_C_E
    T_C_E Posts: 16,418
    arny23394 said:
    T_C_E said:
    “A Relaxant “ ie “A sedative” 
    it’s not a cure it’s a means to an end.
    Time, love and patience is a cure not a tablet. 
    Sadly a lot of people want a quick fix, they are animals not robots.
    I get asked all the time “how long does it take to get a dog trained to the standard my dogs are at? 
    The answer is the dogs age, everyday is training day, it’s all about repetition.
    Everyday my dogs visit the school, when the lead goes on and the doors open there is an acceptable level of behaviour, replace that with getting in the car everyday and you will get your results.
    It’s easy to prescribe and administer a tablet but how many people check to see want that tablet contains or it’s side effects on our animals? Many flea treatments contain chemicals with potential horrific side effects but we give them to our animals because they are advertising them on tv, so they must be ok.
    Wrong, in some cases it’s the toss of a coin, your animal maybe ok it may not it’s that simple.

    How do you go about keeping fleas at bay? My pup seems to have sensitive skin so I'd prefer to not have to use frontline or whatever. 
    What are the issues with your dogs skin, there normally something we take for granted thats the cause!
    For example, plug in smelly things around the house, carpet cleaning fluid, air freshener, certainly dont use fly spray around your dog, it could even be its grub. 
    Drop the details on here and I'll see if I can help, if I cant I'll ask on your behalf someone that will. ;)
  • T_C_E
    T_C_E Posts: 16,418
    On Thursday while running our dogs in the school fields I noticed a new face amongst the Indian Groundstaff/coaching lads and although we waved to acknowledge them all we got about exercising the dogs as normal. As we walked the dogs around the perimeter it was very apparent our new visitor was wary of the dogs.
    Returning on Friday he was alone working on the second elevens pitch and no sooner he heard the dogs he was off to join the others working elsewhere, after a few minutes I saw the cart the use to haul the cut grass approaching us with our dogs pal also from India and our new face.
    A Beaming smile as he left the cart to welcome both Bow and Valli on his knees as our new sat nervously in the cart, introducing our dogs to his mate he showed him how to correctly meet the dogs all of which we’d shown him some 3 years previously as he beckoned him to join him which he did in seconds. Slowly introducing himself to Bow and Valli in turn following by lots of stroking as his smile became as wide as his mates they took photos which in seconds were whizzing their way to his family back home.
    Today Bowyer's new friend approached us to say hello, he greeted Bow with respect and this was of course reciprocated by Bowyer who loves nothing more than a fuss, of course we stopped for more photos for his parents to see back home. 

  • ElfsborgAddick
    ElfsborgAddick Posts: 29,031

    Our local fruit supermarket caters for animals.

    Lola barked when we got to the strawberries :)
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  • T_C_E
    T_C_E Posts: 16,418

    Our local fruit supermarket caters for animals.

    Lola barked when we got to the strawberries :)
    Good luck getting one of our dogs in there, we have to fold him in half to get him a bmw tourer 😂
    Here’s Bow, insisting the Groundstaff stop and fuss him. 😉


  • arny23394
    arny23394 Posts: 1,180
    T_C_E said:
    arny23394 said:
    T_C_E said:
    “A Relaxant “ ie “A sedative” 
    it’s not a cure it’s a means to an end.
    Time, love and patience is a cure not a tablet. 
    Sadly a lot of people want a quick fix, they are animals not robots.
    I get asked all the time “how long does it take to get a dog trained to the standard my dogs are at? 
    The answer is the dogs age, everyday is training day, it’s all about repetition.
    Everyday my dogs visit the school, when the lead goes on and the doors open there is an acceptable level of behaviour, replace that with getting in the car everyday and you will get your results.
    It’s easy to prescribe and administer a tablet but how many people check to see want that tablet contains or it’s side effects on our animals? Many flea treatments contain chemicals with potential horrific side effects but we give them to our animals because they are advertising them on tv, so they must be ok.
    Wrong, in some cases it’s the toss of a coin, your animal maybe ok it may not it’s that simple.

    How do you go about keeping fleas at bay? My pup seems to have sensitive skin so I'd prefer to not have to use frontline or whatever. 
    What are the issues with your dogs skin, there normally something we take for granted thats the cause!
    For example, plug in smelly things around the house, carpet cleaning fluid, air freshener, certainly dont use fly spray around your dog, it could even be its grub. 
    Drop the details on here and I'll see if I can help, if I cant I'll ask on your behalf someone that will. ;)
    Sorry, only just seen this. He’s all sorted now, but I appreciate the willingness to help! I took him to the vets and he has dandruff mites. 
  • arny23394
    arny23394 Posts: 1,180

    Our local fruit supermarket caters for animals.

    Lola barked when we got to the strawberries :)
    It was nice of your wife to let you out of the cage for a photo.
  • CafcWest
    CafcWest Posts: 6,167
    My poor cat (12 years old) has just had more teeth out and only 4 left.  They discovered a lump in her gums and tests have revealed cancer.  She's still eating as long as I give her painkiller every morning but it's only a matter of time I guess.  Dreading making the decision even though I know it will happen soon.  Will be very hard.
  • KBslittlesis
    KBslittlesis Posts: 8,602
    CafcWest said:
    My poor cat (12 years old) has just had more teeth out and only 4 left.  They discovered a lump in her gums and tests have revealed cancer.  She's still eating as long as I give her painkiller every morning but it's only a matter of time I guess.  Dreading making the decision even though I know it will happen soon.  Will be very hard.
    Sending much love to you.
    Its an awful decision to make ♥️
  • seth plum
    seth plum Posts: 53,448
    CafcWest said:
    My poor cat (12 years old) has just had more teeth out and only 4 left.  They discovered a lump in her gums and tests have revealed cancer.  She's still eating as long as I give her painkiller every morning but it's only a matter of time I guess.  Dreading making the decision even though I know it will happen soon.  Will be very hard.
    I imagine this is sad and shocking news and a hard decision to make.
    Best wishes.
  • usetobunkin
    usetobunkin Posts: 2,182
    CafcWest said:
    My poor cat (12 years old) has just had more teeth out and only 4 left.  They discovered a lump in her gums and tests have revealed cancer.  She's still eating as long as I give her painkiller every morning but it's only a matter of time I guess.  Dreading making the decision even though I know it will happen soon.  Will be very hard.
    I am what you would call a man’s man, I worked as a Truck mechanic for 35 years. 
    In the early 80, I had a hard time with both life and work. 
    I bought a Tabby cat for 50p from a corner shop in Greenwich. She became my constant companion and at times my only contact with reality. 
    She was 13 years old when I found out she was suffering from cancer, and had to make the decision to end her suffering. 
    I vividly recall holding her when she was euthanased. I also recall my tears falling from my cheeks and landing on her lovely soft coat.
    I never thought I would get over it.

  • LargeAddick
    LargeAddick Posts: 32,559
    CafcWest said:
    My poor cat (12 years old) has just had more teeth out and only 4 left.  They discovered a lump in her gums and tests have revealed cancer.  She's still eating as long as I give her painkiller every morning but it's only a matter of time I guess.  Dreading making the decision even though I know it will happen soon.  Will be very hard.
    I am what you would call a man’s man, I worked as a Truck mechanic for 35 years. 
    In the early 80, I had a hard time with both life and work. 
    I bought a Tabby cat for 50p from a corner shop in Greenwich. She became my constant companion and at times my only contact with reality. 
    She was 13 years old when I found out she was suffering from cancer, and had to make the decision to end her suffering. 
    I vividly recall holding her when she was euthanased. I also recall my tears falling from my cheeks and landing on her lovely soft coat.
    I never thought I would get over it.

    Have had to have four cats put down over the years, never easy and it takes a while to get over but time is a great healer. Each of our cats had their own personality, each completely different to the others and I look back now and remember each of them with fondness and know that we gave them a great home for the time each was with us.
  • ElfsborgAddick
    ElfsborgAddick Posts: 29,031
    arny23394 said:

    Our local fruit supermarket caters for animals.

    Lola barked when we got to the strawberries :)
    It was nice of your wife to let you out of the cage for a photo.
    The dog is better behaved, this is true.
  • Powell2ThePeople
    Powell2ThePeople Posts: 385
    edited May 2024
    Just having a pint with this mook!


    What's he drinking?!

    A beautiful dog, what is it?
    He’s on water but he’s hoovered a bag of pork scratchings 

    he’s a Hungarian Vizsla 
    Special breed.   I have 2!  🫚🫚

    But, of course, they’re all special, regardless of breed.    The moggies too.   🙏🏼
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  • DaveMehmet
    DaveMehmet Posts: 21,595

    Our local fruit supermarket caters for animals.

    Lola barked when we got to the strawberries :)
    Didn’t know Les Dennis was a dog lover 
  • usetobunkin
    usetobunkin Posts: 2,182
    Remember who LDs first wife was?
  • Fanny Fanackapan
    Fanny Fanackapan Posts: 18,737
    Remember who LDs first wife was?
    A dog ?  B)
  • T_C_E
    T_C_E Posts: 16,418
    T_C_E said:
    On Thursday while running our dogs in the school fields I noticed a new face amongst the Indian Groundstaff/coaching lads and although we waved to acknowledge them all we got about exercising the dogs as normal. As we walked the dogs around the perimeter it was very apparent our new visitor was wary of the dogs.
    Returning on Friday he was alone working on the second elevens pitch and no sooner he heard the dogs he was off to join the others working elsewhere, after a few minutes I saw the cart the use to haul the cut grass approaching us with our dogs pal also from India and our new face.
    A Beaming smile as he left the cart to welcome both Bow and Valli on his knees as our new sat nervously in the cart, introducing our dogs to his mate he showed him how to correctly meet the dogs all of which we’d shown him some 3 years previously as he beckoned him to join him which he did in seconds. Slowly introducing himself to Bow and Valli in turn following by lots of stroking as his smile became as wide as his mates they took photos which in seconds were whizzing their way to his family back home.
    Today Bowyer's new friend approached us to say hello, he greeted Bow with respect and this was of course reciprocated by Bowyer who loves nothing more than a fuss, of course we stopped for more photos for his parents to see back home. 

    Dog fears you say?
    10 days ago, he was heading for the club house.


  • JohnBoyUK
    JohnBoyUK Posts: 9,017
    edited May 2024


    Kit Kat & Milo the kittens are settling in well.

    What with their Mum in the house as well, it has been an adjustment as we can't just leave doors and windows open now as we would usually in this nice weather.  We've got them limited to our kitchen/diner/snug and the utility room at the moment and the Mum is allowed in to our adults only living room in the evening once we've got the girls into bed.

    Our eldest, the 5yo has been brilliant with them.  She'll quite happily sit there, watch them play and stroke them whenever they come close and the Milo seems to have made friends with her as he'll just come and sit on her lap.  Where as the 2yo likes to shout at them and run after them, which as you can imagine, isn't really conducive to building a relationship with them.

    Last weekend, when my wife took the eldest to a birthday party, I sat in with the 2yo and told her to sit quiet for 5 minutes with me (trust me, for her to do that is a bloody miracle as she's the noisest, loudest child I've ever met!) and both kittens came out and played happily in front of her and the Mum jumped on the back of the sofa and was curled up behind us.

    I'm not quite at the stage of being able to take my eye off the 2yo or leave her alone with them, just in case.  I'm sure it will get easier when the 2yo grows up a little more and the kittens get a little bit bigger.

    Mum is going in for her op next week as we can't risk letting her out and getting any more kittens lol.
  • KBslittlesis
    KBslittlesis Posts: 8,602
    They are gorgeous 😻😻
  • seth plum
    seth plum Posts: 53,448
    Oh my goodness to Kit Kat and Milo.
  • T_C_E
    T_C_E Posts: 16,418
    Both girls a little under the weather so enjoying the Therapy, Millie with a cold and Valli with a slight hamstring strain confines to just her school work without the physical exercise. 

  • Shag
    Shag Posts: 4,555
    It’s heartbreaking, had to say goodbye to our Newfie yesterday, Nelson 🥲


  • WSA
    WSA Posts: 1,912
    Bless him.  RIP Nelson