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That pylons thing? What the hell is this? How is this a real TV channel? Lmao1
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Please stop it.bexleyaddick said:And this is the declaration Mr. Catt refers to.... it appears to have many highly educated/qualified people from all over the world as signatories. I stress that I am not necessarily saying that they are correct, just putting it here as some balance seeing as so many have suggested that man made climate change is undeniable.
https://clintel.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/06/WCD-version-06272215121.pdf
https://www.euronews.com/my-europe/2022/09/16/fact-check-did-1200-climate-experts-sign-declaration-denying-climate-emergency
"When looking closer at the list of signatories, there are precisely 1,107, including six people who are dead. Less than 1% of the names listed describe themselves as climatologists or climate scientists."
"According to an independent 2019 count of the declaration's signatories, 21% were engineers, many linked to the fossil fuel industry. Others were lobbyists, and some even worked as fishermen or airline pilots."
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_consensus_on_climate_change
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On a wider note, sharing stuff like bexleyaddick has shared and saying "I'm not saying this but here's some balance" is so WILDLY dangerous and misinformative.
THIS IS NOT BALANCE.
This sort of "balance" is "ahh for balance, here's some sources saying the Moon landing was faked" and going straight into the flag fluttering nonsense.
I have zero tolerance for this and even if the poster is trying to qualify it by saying "oh but I don't necessarily agree" - THEN DON'T SHARE IT!12 -
Most of the world is non-white. Some weird comments on this thread.blackpool72 said:
This is quite simply the biggest threat to the planet.R0TW said:The guess is that there were 4 billion in 1974.
There are 8 billion now.
Is there a trend here?
Trouble is the countries that's population is increasing out of control are non white.
So any debate about doing something about it is shouted down as being racist.
What debate do you want to have, kill off the minorities?3 -
I'd like a sensible debate about how the world's population is continuing to increase year on year.SELR_addicks said:
Most of the world is non-white. Some weird comments on this thread.blackpool72 said:
This is quite simply the biggest threat to the planet.R0TW said:The guess is that there were 4 billion in 1974.
There are 8 billion now.
Is there a trend here?
Trouble is the countries that's population is increasing out of control are non white.
So any debate about doing something about it is shouted down as being racist.
What debate do you want to have, kill off the minorities?
I doubt that debate will be with you though.9 -
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Maybe start off with JSO protesters and see how it goes
Most of the world is non-white. Some weird comments on this thread.blackpool72 said:
This is quite simply the biggest threat to the planet.R0TW said:The guess is that there were 4 billion in 1974.
There are 8 billion now.
Is there a trend here?
Trouble is the countries that's population is increasing out of control are non white.
So any debate about doing something about it is shouted down as being racist.
What debate do you want to have, kill off the minorities?9 -
I think I'll take up smoking. The jury is out on if it's bad for your health or not 🙄0
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Tbf I would absolutely love it if we invaded FranceME14addick said:We have a Government that is about to ditch its promises on Climate Change and issue new licences for oil and gas exploration, this mustn't happen and people are risking being put in prison by a Government that has removed the right to peaceful protest. We're becoming more like Russia every day.3 -
World population trend is one of decline. Forecasts for the end of this century were at 8.5 10 billion that’s likely to be closer to 6 billion. Given the way the climate is changing I’m guessing that through famine and disaster it could be even less.2
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Can bring swordfish back some duty free cigarettes0
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This isn't really a debatable issue though. There are so many wild and varying factors to human population/human overpopulation that it is impossible to discuss this concisely.blackpool72 said:
I'd like a sensible debate about how the world's population is continuing to increase year on year.SELR_addicks said:
Most of the world is non-white. Some weird comments on this thread.blackpool72 said:
This is quite simply the biggest threat to the planet.R0TW said:The guess is that there were 4 billion in 1974.
There are 8 billion now.
Is there a trend here?
Trouble is the countries that's population is increasing out of control are non white.
So any debate about doing something about it is shouted down as being racist.
What debate do you want to have, kill off the minorities?
I doubt that debate will be with you though.
The increase in the world's population is I think mainly due to advances in medical science: people are living longer. Birth rates are slowly falling to be fair but it is very difficult to verify this data and specify where this is happening/where there are increases in birth rates. But worldwide, they've been falling.
Saying "control population in country X" is basically impossible. How would you propose something is done about it?3 -
What debate would you like to have?blackpool72 said:
I'd like a sensible debate about how the world's population is continuing to increase year on year.SELR_addicks said:
Most of the world is non-white. Some weird comments on this thread.blackpool72 said:
This is quite simply the biggest threat to the planet.R0TW said:The guess is that there were 4 billion in 1974.
There are 8 billion now.
Is there a trend here?
Trouble is the countries that's population is increasing out of control are non white.
So any debate about doing something about it is shouted down as being racist.
What debate do you want to have, kill off the minorities?
I doubt that debate will be with you though.
You've just named a fact and left it at that.0 -
Fortunately it's not your forum so disagree by all means but another poster is equally entitled to do what you do, and post what they like (with a few obvious limits of course). And no, I don't agree with what they posted, or Mr Catt generally for that matter.PaddyP17 said:On a wider note, sharing stuff like bexleyaddick has shared and saying "I'm not saying this but here's some balance" is so WILDLY dangerous and misinformative.
THIS IS NOT BALANCE.
This sort of "balance" is "ahh for balance, here's some sources saying the Moon landing was faked" and going straight into the flag fluttering nonsense.
I have zero tolerance for this and even if the poster is trying to qualify it by saying "oh but I don't necessarily agree" - THEN DON'T SHARE IT!6 -
The world's population has increased decade on decade for the past 100 years.SELR_addicks said:
What debate would you like to have?blackpool72 said:
I'd like a sensible debate about how the world's population is continuing to increase year on year.SELR_addicks said:
Most of the world is non-white. Some weird comments on this thread.blackpool72 said:
This is quite simply the biggest threat to the planet.R0TW said:The guess is that there were 4 billion in 1974.
There are 8 billion now.
Is there a trend here?
Trouble is the countries that's population is increasing out of control are non white.
So any debate about doing something about it is shouted down as being racist.
What debate do you want to have, kill off the minorities?
I doubt that debate will be with you though.
You've just named a fact and left it at that.
It is continuing to increase despite some so called experts saying will soon decline.
Global warming is the biggest threat to civilisation and the longer the earth's population continues to increase the greater the demand on the earth's resources.
I have no idea how to tackle this problem but things will only get worse as the population increases.4 -
You're right, it's not my forum. So I'm going to call totally dangerous misinformative bullshit what it is - totally dangerous misinformative bullshit.cafcfan1990 said:
Fortunately it's not your forum so disagree by all means but another poster is equally entitled to do what you do, and post what they like (with a few obvious limits of course). And no, I don't agree with what they posted, or Mr Catt generally for that matter.PaddyP17 said:On a wider note, sharing stuff like bexleyaddick has shared and saying "I'm not saying this but here's some balance" is so WILDLY dangerous and misinformative.
THIS IS NOT BALANCE.
This sort of "balance" is "ahh for balance, here's some sources saying the Moon landing was faked" and going straight into the flag fluttering nonsense.
I have zero tolerance for this and even if the poster is trying to qualify it by saying "oh but I don't necessarily agree" - THEN DON'T SHARE IT!
Their entitlement to post is the same as mine, sure. Fine. And I am entitled to respond how I like (with a few obvious limits of course).3 -
Sounds like governments need to tackle the problem by reducing emissions per person in any way they can, don't you agree?blackpool72 said:
The world's population has increased decade on decade for the past 100 years.SELR_addicks said:
What debate would you like to have?blackpool72 said:
I'd like a sensible debate about how the world's population is continuing to increase year on year.SELR_addicks said:
Most of the world is non-white. Some weird comments on this thread.blackpool72 said:
This is quite simply the biggest threat to the planet.R0TW said:The guess is that there were 4 billion in 1974.
There are 8 billion now.
Is there a trend here?
Trouble is the countries that's population is increasing out of control are non white.
So any debate about doing something about it is shouted down as being racist.
What debate do you want to have, kill off the minorities?
I doubt that debate will be with you though.
You've just named a fact and left it at that.
It is continuing to increase despite some so called experts saying will soon decline.
Global warming is the biggest threat to civilisation and the longer the earth's population continues to increase the greater the demand on the earth's resources.
I have no idea how to tackle this problem but things will only get worse as the population increases.
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Absolutely, I would never suggest otherwise. But your post just screamed don't post it because "I have zero tolerance" for it which is unfair. No problem with you calling it out for being incorrect, my opinion on the content probably isn't too far from yours.PaddyP17 said:
You're right, it's not my forum. So I'm going to call totally dangerous misinformative bullshit what it is - totally dangerous misinformative bullshit.cafcfan1990 said:
Fortunately it's not your forum so disagree by all means but another poster is equally entitled to do what you do, and post what they like (with a few obvious limits of course). And no, I don't agree with what they posted, or Mr Catt generally for that matter.PaddyP17 said:On a wider note, sharing stuff like bexleyaddick has shared and saying "I'm not saying this but here's some balance" is so WILDLY dangerous and misinformative.
THIS IS NOT BALANCE.
This sort of "balance" is "ahh for balance, here's some sources saying the Moon landing was faked" and going straight into the flag fluttering nonsense.
I have zero tolerance for this and even if the poster is trying to qualify it by saying "oh but I don't necessarily agree" - THEN DON'T SHARE IT!
Their entitlement to post is the same as mine, sure. Fine. And I am entitled to respond how I like (with a few obvious limits of course).2 -
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Possibly.SELR_addicks said:
Sounds like governments need to tackle the problem by reducing emissions per person in any way they can, don't you agree?blackpool72 said:
The world's population has increased decade on decade for the past 100 years.SELR_addicks said:
What debate would you like to have?blackpool72 said:
I'd like a sensible debate about how the world's population is continuing to increase year on year.SELR_addicks said:
Most of the world is non-white. Some weird comments on this thread.blackpool72 said:
This is quite simply the biggest threat to the planet.R0TW said:The guess is that there were 4 billion in 1974.
There are 8 billion now.
Is there a trend here?
Trouble is the countries that's population is increasing out of control are non white.
So any debate about doing something about it is shouted down as being racist.
What debate do you want to have, kill off the minorities?
I doubt that debate will be with you though.
You've just named a fact and left it at that.
It is continuing to increase despite some so called experts saying will soon decline.
Global warming is the biggest threat to civilisation and the longer the earth's population continues to increase the greater the demand on the earth's resources.
I have no idea how to tackle this problem but things will only get worse as the population increases.
But for every extra million people on the planet the increase on resources such as food and water will increase.
Don't you agree.0 -
I do, let's gt and superglue ourselves to the Hornby factory gates. Show em what's whatSELR_addicks said:
Sounds like governments need to tackle the problem by reducing emissions per person in any way they can, don't you agree?blackpool72 said:
The world's population has increased decade on decade for the past 100 years.SELR_addicks said:
What debate would you like to have?blackpool72 said:
I'd like a sensible debate about how the world's population is continuing to increase year on year.SELR_addicks said:
Most of the world is non-white. Some weird comments on this thread.blackpool72 said:
This is quite simply the biggest threat to the planet.R0TW said:The guess is that there were 4 billion in 1974.
There are 8 billion now.
Is there a trend here?
Trouble is the countries that's population is increasing out of control are non white.
So any debate about doing something about it is shouted down as being racist.
What debate do you want to have, kill off the minorities?
I doubt that debate will be with you though.
You've just named a fact and left it at that.
It is continuing to increase despite some so called experts saying will soon decline.
Global warming is the biggest threat to civilisation and the longer the earth's population continues to increase the greater the demand on the earth's resources.
I have no idea how to tackle this problem but things will only get worse as the population increases.1 -
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Anyway they can?SELR_addicks said:
Sounds like governments need to tackle the problem by reducing emissions per person in any way they can, don't you agree?blackpool72 said:
The world's population has increased decade on decade for the past 100 years.SELR_addicks said:
What debate would you like to have?blackpool72 said:
I'd like a sensible debate about how the world's population is continuing to increase year on year.SELR_addicks said:
Most of the world is non-white. Some weird comments on this thread.blackpool72 said:
This is quite simply the biggest threat to the planet.R0TW said:The guess is that there were 4 billion in 1974.
There are 8 billion now.
Is there a trend here?
Trouble is the countries that's population is increasing out of control are non white.
So any debate about doing something about it is shouted down as being racist.
What debate do you want to have, kill off the minorities?
I doubt that debate will be with you though.
You've just named a fact and left it at that.
It is continuing to increase despite some so called experts saying will soon decline.
Global warming is the biggest threat to civilisation and the longer the earth's population continues to increase the greater the demand on the earth's resources.
I have no idea how to tackle this problem but things will only get worse as the population increases.
If I were in charge I'd ration most things.
Every household would get a certain amount of water, gas electricity a day.
Food, petrol clothes would be also rationed.
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As it also is when people with no qualifications saying man made climate change is undeniable.... why shouldn't I post articles that are relevant to the topic, are you suggesting that we should only post items that suit our own agenda?PaddyP17 said:On a wider note, sharing stuff like bexleyaddick has shared and saying "I'm not saying this but here's some balance" is so WILDLY dangerous and misinformative.
THIS IS NOT BALANCE.
This sort of "balance" is "ahh for balance, here's some sources saying the Moon landing was faked" and going straight into the flag fluttering nonsense.
I have zero tolerance for this and even if the poster is trying to qualify it by saying "oh but I don't necessarily agree" - THEN DON'T SHARE IT!
I'm sure we would all welcome renewables as our only source of power but it IS a fact that they currently cannot supply the level of energy needed to run our infrastructure and no level of investment can provide an iron clad guarantee that we will ever be able to harness enough from that source. And thats before we all have to convert to electric vehicles, so what will we do when all the oil and gas reserves have run out and we still don't have sufficient power from renewables?3 -
How about starting small such as refusing to give out licenses to oil and banning Diesel cars?clb74 said:
Anyway they can?SELR_addicks said:
Sounds like governments need to tackle the problem by reducing emissions per person in any way they can, don't you agree?blackpool72 said:
The world's population has increased decade on decade for the past 100 years.SELR_addicks said:
What debate would you like to have?blackpool72 said:
I'd like a sensible debate about how the world's population is continuing to increase year on year.SELR_addicks said:
Most of the world is non-white. Some weird comments on this thread.blackpool72 said:
This is quite simply the biggest threat to the planet.R0TW said:The guess is that there were 4 billion in 1974.
There are 8 billion now.
Is there a trend here?
Trouble is the countries that's population is increasing out of control are non white.
So any debate about doing something about it is shouted down as being racist.
What debate do you want to have, kill off the minorities?
I doubt that debate will be with you though.
You've just named a fact and left it at that.
It is continuing to increase despite some so called experts saying will soon decline.
Global warming is the biggest threat to civilisation and the longer the earth's population continues to increase the greater the demand on the earth's resources.
I have no idea how to tackle this problem but things will only get worse as the population increases.
If I were in charge I'd ration most things.
Every household would get a certain amount of water, gas electricity a day.
Food, petrol clothes would be also rationed.0 -
Perhaps but currently governments are doing sweet f all, so you can't really blame the people when nothing is being done from the top.blackpool72 said:
Possibly.SELR_addicks said:
Sounds like governments need to tackle the problem by reducing emissions per person in any way they can, don't you agree?blackpool72 said:
The world's population has increased decade on decade for the past 100 years.SELR_addicks said:
What debate would you like to have?blackpool72 said:
I'd like a sensible debate about how the world's population is continuing to increase year on year.SELR_addicks said:
Most of the world is non-white. Some weird comments on this thread.blackpool72 said:
This is quite simply the biggest threat to the planet.R0TW said:The guess is that there were 4 billion in 1974.
There are 8 billion now.
Is there a trend here?
Trouble is the countries that's population is increasing out of control are non white.
So any debate about doing something about it is shouted down as being racist.
What debate do you want to have, kill off the minorities?
I doubt that debate will be with you though.
You've just named a fact and left it at that.
It is continuing to increase despite some so called experts saying will soon decline.
Global warming is the biggest threat to civilisation and the longer the earth's population continues to increase the greater the demand on the earth's resources.
I have no idea how to tackle this problem but things will only get worse as the population increases.
But for every extra million people on the planet the increase on resources such as food and water will increase.
Don't you agree.0 -
I agree.SELR_addicks said:
Perhaps but currently governments are doing sweet f all, so you can't really blame the people when nothing is being done from the top.blackpool72 said:
Possibly.SELR_addicks said:
Sounds like governments need to tackle the problem by reducing emissions per person in any way they can, don't you agree?blackpool72 said:
The world's population has increased decade on decade for the past 100 years.SELR_addicks said:
What debate would you like to have?blackpool72 said:
I'd like a sensible debate about how the world's population is continuing to increase year on year.SELR_addicks said:
Most of the world is non-white. Some weird comments on this thread.blackpool72 said:
This is quite simply the biggest threat to the planet.R0TW said:The guess is that there were 4 billion in 1974.
There are 8 billion now.
Is there a trend here?
Trouble is the countries that's population is increasing out of control are non white.
So any debate about doing something about it is shouted down as being racist.
What debate do you want to have, kill off the minorities?
I doubt that debate will be with you though.
You've just named a fact and left it at that.
It is continuing to increase despite some so called experts saying will soon decline.
Global warming is the biggest threat to civilisation and the longer the earth's population continues to increase the greater the demand on the earth's resources.
I have no idea how to tackle this problem but things will only get worse as the population increases.
But for every extra million people on the planet the increase on resources such as food and water will increase.
Don't you agree.
So in the meantime the population continues to increase and the problem continues to get worse.0 -
I think @blackpool72 point has just been proven!!SELR_addicks said:
Most of the world is non-white. Some weird comments on this thread.blackpool72 said:
This is quite simply the biggest threat to the planet.R0TW said:The guess is that there were 4 billion in 1974.
There are 8 billion now.
Is there a trend here?
Trouble is the countries that's population is increasing out of control are non white.
So any debate about doing something about it is shouted down as being racist.
What debate do you want to have, kill off the minorities?You've even highlighted his text but not once does he say he wants to debate killing off the minorities. In fact, he doesn't mention killing!!!!
I took the comment as educating on birth control, you took it as ethnic cleansing. I wonder who the weird one is16 -
If we don't have the energy levels needed to run our infrastructure, is it only because of a shortage of the energy needed?
Could it be that the infrastructure we demand or expect or hope for is maybe too much?
Less demand for energy is less shortages and less pollution.
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All hail the Boris Bikes0
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Totally agree, and I wish it could be so, but isn't it a bit of a too simplistic argument? Can you imagine the current generation going without their devices and social media (which in itself uses vast amounts of energy and water to maintain the huge servers needed to store all that data and keep them cool) etc.,? I sure can't.seth plum said:If we don't have the energy levels needed to run our infrastructure, is it only because of a shortage of the energy needed?
Could it be that the infrastructure we demand or expect or hope for is maybe too much?
Less demand for energy is less shortages and less pollution.0 -
And all hail the clear increase in vegan and vegetarian consumption judging by the way the shelves have changed in the shops in recent years.
(Some of the offerings of the veggie/vegan 'manufacturers' are rank mind you).1
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