OMG! MILLWALL MIGHT GET PROMOTED - but not in 2023 :)

SouthWest_Addicks said:

ShootersHillGuru said:

MuttleyCAFC said:

AllHailTheHen said:

Thing for Millwall now is do they carry on building slowly like they have been but run the risk of stagnating or going backwards or take a gamble on spending a bit more to go for promotion. The latter could cause big problems if it went awry. Which would be terrible.

My honest assessment is that they work very hard and compete for everything and break quickly but the actual lack of ability in the side makes it harder to make forward steps beyond where they are now. 

Yet they still got within a whisker of making the playoffs in a very competitive division. They’ve been slowly building and improving season on season. If they add a couple of decent signings like the Dutch bloke last summer, which is the logical thing to do then they can perhaps at least reproduce this season or better. For clubs without pots of cash, it’s the way to do it. A slow build. It’s what Charlton did under Curbs. It won’t be easy. it never is, but they are in with a shout. They’re doing exactly what we should have been doing albeit in a division lower. Instead we’re rudderless and doing the same inadequate building every season. 

From a betting perspective Millwall are a very interesting team to keep an eye out for. From a pure data point of view Millwall are terrible; lack of goals from open play etc. It doesn’t take a lot for teams like that to quickly drop down the table. 

Personally think that was their big shot last season. Leeds, Leicester and Southampton will make division stronger. Plus, Watford, Norwich, WBA & Swansea are always fancied to push on. 

RickAddick said:

ShootersHillGuru said:

MuttleyCAFC said:

AllHailTheHen said:

Thing for Millwall now is do they carry on building slowly like they have been but run the risk of stagnating or going backwards or take a gamble on spending a bit more to go for promotion. The latter could cause big problems if it went awry. Which would be terrible.

My honest assessment is that they work very hard and compete for everything and break quickly but the actual lack of ability in the side makes it harder to make forward steps beyond where they are now. 

Yet they still got within a whisker of making the playoffs in a very competitive division. They’ve been slowly building and improving season on season. If they add a couple of decent signings like the Dutch bloke last summer, which is the logical thing to do then they can perhaps at least reproduce this season or better. For clubs without pots of cash, it’s the way to do it. A slow build. It’s what Charlton did under Curbs. It won’t be easy. it never is, but they are in with a shout. They’re doing exactly what we should have been doing albeit in a division lower. Instead we’re rudderless and doing the same inadequate building every season. 

Disappointed that Millwall aren't going to be in the Prem next season, if only to see how far the slow-build approach can go in the 2020s.
Plenty of lessons for Charlton to learn from, if our owner(s) can be bothered. 

RickAddick said:

ShootersHillGuru said:

MuttleyCAFC said:

AllHailTheHen said:

Thing for Millwall now is do they carry on building slowly like they have been but run the risk of stagnating or going backwards or take a gamble on spending a bit more to go for promotion. The latter could cause big problems if it went awry. Which would be terrible.

My honest assessment is that they work very hard and compete for everything and break quickly but the actual lack of ability in the side makes it harder to make forward steps beyond where they are now. 

Yet they still got within a whisker of making the playoffs in a very competitive division. They’ve been slowly building and improving season on season. If they add a couple of decent signings like the Dutch bloke last summer, which is the logical thing to do then they can perhaps at least reproduce this season or better. For clubs without pots of cash, it’s the way to do it. A slow build. It’s what Charlton did under Curbs. It won’t be easy. it never is, but they are in with a shout. They’re doing exactly what we should have been doing albeit in a division lower. Instead we’re rudderless and doing the same inadequate building every season. 

Disappointed that Millwall aren't going to be in the Prem next season, if only to see how far the slow-build approach can go in the 2020s.
Plenty of lessons for Charlton to learn from, if our owner(s) can be bothered. 

BR7_addick said:

RickAddick said:

ShootersHillGuru said:

MuttleyCAFC said:

AllHailTheHen said:

Thing for Millwall now is do they carry on building slowly like they have been but run the risk of stagnating or going backwards or take a gamble on spending a bit more to go for promotion. The latter could cause big problems if it went awry. Which would be terrible.

My honest assessment is that they work very hard and compete for everything and break quickly but the actual lack of ability in the side makes it harder to make forward steps beyond where they are now. 

Yet they still got within a whisker of making the playoffs in a very competitive division. They’ve been slowly building and improving season on season. If they add a couple of decent signings like the Dutch bloke last summer, which is the logical thing to do then they can perhaps at least reproduce this season or better. For clubs without pots of cash, it’s the way to do it. A slow build. It’s what Charlton did under Curbs. It won’t be easy. it never is, but they are in with a shout. They’re doing exactly what we should have been doing albeit in a division lower. Instead we’re rudderless and doing the same inadequate building every season. 

Disappointed that Millwall aren't going to be in the Prem next season, if only to see how far the slow-build approach can go in the 2020s.
Plenty of lessons for Charlton to learn from, if our owner(s) can be bothered. 

Millwall are a fairly well run club, they have built slowly like you say, they have a competitive squad which is currently in no danger of going down, they’re not a big club and are mixing it with clubs superior to them and fair play.

But hopefully it all comes tumbling down and they end up in the national league, I assume that’s what you meant and it’s one massive typo?

guinnessaddick said:

BR7_addick said:

RickAddick said:

ShootersHillGuru said:

MuttleyCAFC said:

AllHailTheHen said:

Thing for Millwall now is do they carry on building slowly like they have been but run the risk of stagnating or going backwards or take a gamble on spending a bit more to go for promotion. The latter could cause big problems if it went awry. Which would be terrible.

My honest assessment is that they work very hard and compete for everything and break quickly but the actual lack of ability in the side makes it harder to make forward steps beyond where they are now. 

Yet they still got within a whisker of making the playoffs in a very competitive division. They’ve been slowly building and improving season on season. If they add a couple of decent signings like the Dutch bloke last summer, which is the logical thing to do then they can perhaps at least reproduce this season or better. For clubs without pots of cash, it’s the way to do it. A slow build. It’s what Charlton did under Curbs. It won’t be easy. it never is, but they are in with a shout. They’re doing exactly what we should have been doing albeit in a division lower. Instead we’re rudderless and doing the same inadequate building every season. 

Disappointed that Millwall aren't going to be in the Prem next season, if only to see how far the slow-build approach can go in the 2020s.
Plenty of lessons for Charlton to learn from, if our owner(s) can be bothered. 

Millwall are a fairly well run club, they have built slowly like you say, they have a competitive squad which is currently in no danger of going down, they’re not a big club and are mixing it with clubs superior to them and fair play.

But hopefully it all comes tumbling down and they end up in the national league, I assume that’s what you meant and it’s one massive typo?

Are they well run?
They lost £14m this season, the only difference between us & them, is the owner is happy to put money in. 

Covered End said:

Wellred said:

Their support must be feeling down but with the budget they had to work with & to finish 45 mins away from a playoff place
Once the dust settles they will definitely feel a sense of pride of what they achieved I know I would if that was us 

Some may.
Many are so proud they are calling for Rowett to be sacked.

Gut reaction for some just now but they will know deep down what a decent job he has & is doing for them but you will always get a few who can't see the woods for the tree's
& If they had to suffer what we have they would realize how lucky they are to have him & a owner who believes & backs him 

guinnessaddick said:

Wellred said:

Covered End said:

Wellred said:

Their support must be feeling down but with the budget they had to work with & to finish 45 mins away from a playoff place
Once the dust settles they will definitely feel a sense of pride of what they achieved I know I would if that was us 

Some may.
Many are so proud they are calling for Rowett to be sacked.

Gut reaction for some just now but they will know deep down what a decent job he has & is doing for them but you will always get a few who can't see the woods for the tree's
& If they had to suffer what we have they would realize how lucky they are to have him & a owner who believes & backs him 

They wanted him in Oct, when things weren’t going so good. 

iaitch said:

And we were second bottom.

MuttleyCAFC said:

RickAddick said:

ShootersHillGuru said:

MuttleyCAFC said:

AllHailTheHen said:

Thing for Millwall now is do they carry on building slowly like they have been but run the risk of stagnating or going backwards or take a gamble on spending a bit more to go for promotion. The latter could cause big problems if it went awry. Which would be terrible.

My honest assessment is that they work very hard and compete for everything and break quickly but the actual lack of ability in the side makes it harder to make forward steps beyond where they are now. 

Yet they still got within a whisker of making the playoffs in a very competitive division. They’ve been slowly building and improving season on season. If they add a couple of decent signings like the Dutch bloke last summer, which is the logical thing to do then they can perhaps at least reproduce this season or better. For clubs without pots of cash, it’s the way to do it. A slow build. It’s what Charlton did under Curbs. It won’t be easy. it never is, but they are in with a shout. They’re doing exactly what we should have been doing albeit in a division lower. Instead we’re rudderless and doing the same inadequate building every season. 

Disappointed that Millwall aren't going to be in the Prem next season, if only to see how far the slow-build approach can go in the 2020s.
Plenty of lessons for Charlton to learn from, if our owner(s) can be bothered. 

I think we can learn more from Luton and Sunderland.

lindos480 said:

Seeing that photo of the coach reminds me of the time I had to travel back from Bournemouth minus a window on a cold November day. Can't remember what the score was or what we did to upset them but it must have been pretty bad to set off Bournemouth fans!!

soapy_jones said:

This thread is cheering me up at the moment, long may it continue.

It has been discussed at length and many times here, there and every fucking where, but Millwall are part of the myth that arose around football hooliganism, proliferated in the 70's and 80's and which endures to this day. It was much publicised, televised in a much more restricted media and caught on.

We as clubs share the same demographics to a large extent, but they historically have the draw of sections of youth (or not so youthful as the years roll on...) that naturally go looking for that sort of "passtime".  Not to say that will not change, we have our share of ill educated, dragged up, no concience entitled yoof, like every football club in these Isles.

Sort of warms the cockles of my heart that that's where that sort  still go, including members of my extended family btw.  That grubby herbert in the playground all those years ago we all knew growing up in SE London, who wanted the thrill and kudos by association with a "firm", to exorcise his inadequaces is a part of our urban culture.  We are losing too much of that.

Let em crack on,  let em all go darn ta the Den.

Also.  Fuck em!

Professor Soapy T W Jones, Sociology BA(Hons)

DOUCHER said:

Such a shame the millwall boys have packed away for summer and aren’t discussing their chances for next season with us atm - may have been different if they’d won - never mind 

guinnessaddick said:

https://twitter.com/emilybastow_/status/1655857571972915205?s=46&t=l3gVPecVjs4wU2WBKFZZyw

The spanners players out on Monday, rumoured to have started just after 4pm.

ShootersHillGuru said:

I got spat at coming out of The New Den a few years back.

To be honest the only crap I have seen there is some our lot acting like prats but your always get the odd one or two but they don't come after us like they would at the old Den where they just wanted to give it to anyone who wasn't Millwall