The Queen: Shamrock Rovers and the FAI condemn 'callous' chants

ken_shabby said:

Chippycafc said:

clb74 said:

This thread has surprised me.
I really thought more people would of wanted to the game of football to standstill for 1  game.

Principles and standards mate, some have em some dont. The amount of football lost through covid, yet few complained, but asking fans to sit out 1 match in respect of the monarch, you would think some of them were being asked to donate their kidney.

Twice in two days you've decided to stick in a snide 'decency' comment. Neither the time or the place to go signalling other people's 'decency'. Knock it off.

CharltonMadrid said:

I imagine it could have been unpleasant at Celtic but I wouldn't have thought any other fans would have been disrespectful. I think the tributes and the sense of honour and unity would have actually been amazing to see at football grounds.

AddicksAddict said:

Stu_of_Kunming said:

jimmymelrose said:

colthe3rd said:

FishCostaFortune said:

colthe3rd said:

BR7_addick said:

colthe3rd said:

BR7_addick said:

colthe3rd said:

Actually surprised many want games to go ahead this weekend, I'd have thought any supporter of the Royals would have wanted games to be postponed this weekend at a minimum.

People grieve in their own way.  Some would want to be indoors, others might want to carry on.  

At least if the sport is on you have a choice whatever your thoughts are.  

But what about people who have to work at events that aren't postponed, they won't exactly have a choice. It all smacks a bit of I want to show I care but don't inconvenience me.

Well it’s unfortunate if you don’t have a choice but what can we do about that.  You can show you care in a number of ways, cancelling football doesn’t have to be one of them.  And by the way I’m not gonna be angry if it is cancelled I just can’t see why it should be.  

Just to be a pedant, it's not cancelled it's postponed. I'm no royalist by any means so personally I don't care either way. I just can't understand those that are and would be going and having fun in what is an official period of mourning. Seems hypocritical to me.

Why does mourning not have to be about going and having 'fun'. It should be a chance to celebrate someone's life, especially someone who has lived so long and had such an impact on the nation. 

Because the word mourning literally means expressing sorrow. Fun and sorrow do not go together. Some great mental gymnastics in this thread.

Ok, but do you expect children to mourn and express sorrow. Why should children be having their matches cancelled?

I can only assume that The Queen's great grandchildren will be prevented from playing games for two weeks. They won't be outdoors kicking a ball about, surely? 

No one has been banned from kicking a ball about, don’t be a wally.

Football has hit this spot on. The other sports have messed it up. 

Er, yes they have.

BR7_addick said:

BR7_addick said:

I’ve seen arguments for it being called off due to worries about crowd reactions, the mail ran a story but to be fair they’re probably just stirring as usual to get us all foaming at the mouth at Celtic and Liverpool.  But let’s assume they’re correct for a second.  

Since when did we give in to a minority of idiots?  I’m no monarchist that’s for sure, but that’s what anyone booing would be, an idiot.  

shirty5 said:

Statement from Millwall about their next 2 home games 

 

As it stands, there is currently no obligation for a similar postponement of fixtures next week, during which Millwall are set to play at The Den on Wednesday 14th and Saturday 17th.

 

The club has every intention and desire to fulfill these fixtures as scheduled and believes that its supporters would like the opportunity to pay an emotional and memorable tribute to Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth ll.

 

There are, however, considerable demands on police resources at this unprecedented time - particularly in London - and such pressures are extending into the stewarding industry. The club is conscious of the impact of these factors but is working tirelessly to overcome such hurdles in order to meet the necessary safety regulations required to host the two matches as planned.

aliwibble said:

BR7_addick said:

I’ve seen arguments for it being called off due to worries about crowd reactions, the mail ran a story but to be fair they’re probably just stirring as usual to get us all foaming at the mouth at Celtic and Liverpool.  But let’s assume they’re correct for a second.  

Since when did we give in to a minority of idiots?  I’m no monarchist that’s for sure, but that’s what anyone booing would be, an idiot.  

Since we stopped routinely having minute's silences and having minute's applauses instead. While I'm sure the vast majority of fans would observe it impeccably, it only takes a handful of pissed-up dickheads rocking up late and making a row, and nearby fans reacting angrily to that to disrupt the whole thing. And that's before we get to more organised disruption - I'd hope that anti-monarchist/anti-nationalist elements in certain fanbases would have the decency to not try to use it to make a political point, but I wouldn't bet my reputation on it, and I assume that the football authorities have made the same calculation. Given the decision had to be made less than 24 hours after there was any inkling that the Queen was ill, let alone that she had died, in order to allow clubs and fans to change their travel plans, I'm not going to give them a kicking for possibly getting it wrong. The postponements also allow more time to make a considered decision about what kind of tribute is appropriate at matches, and make everyone aware of it before the game.

BR7_addick said:

Covered End said:

aliwibble said:

BR7_addick said:

I’ve seen arguments for it being called off due to worries about crowd reactions, the mail ran a story but to be fair they’re probably just stirring as usual to get us all foaming at the mouth at Celtic and Liverpool.  But let’s assume they’re correct for a second.  

Since when did we give in to a minority of idiots?  I’m no monarchist that’s for sure, but that’s what anyone booing would be, an idiot.  

Since we stopped routinely having minute's silences and having minute's applauses instead. While I'm sure the vast majority of fans would observe it impeccably, it only takes a handful of pissed-up dickheads rocking up late and making a row, and nearby fans reacting angrily to that to disrupt the whole thing. And that's before we get to more organised disruption - I'd hope that anti-monarchist/anti-nationalist elements in certain fanbases would have the decency to not try to use it to make a political point, but I wouldn't bet my reputation on it, and I assume that the football authorities have made the same calculation. Given the decision had to be made less than 24 hours after there was any inkling that the Queen was ill, let alone that she had died, in order to allow clubs and fans to change their travel plans, I'm not going to give them a kicking for possibly getting it wrong. The postponements also allow more time to make a considered decision about what kind of tribute is appropriate at matches, and make everyone aware of it before the game.

Exactly. There is no way anyone can guarantee that there wouldn't have been an unsavoury incident somewhere.
The Valley is one of the best as are Charlton fans.

Yet first game of the season a Derby fan ran on the pitch during the minute's applause, removed the corner flag and then ran on again like a crazed loony.

Imagine if that was broadcast around the world showing what scum we have in this country?

Charlton fans abusing the people of Wycombe all day long acouple of weeks ago, punching a hole in the roof of a bus and throwing the plastic bits at people on the bus, trying to provoke rows with Wycombe supporters who were probably about 80 years old.

There is no way you can rely on every football fan to show respect and to postpone the games were undoubtedly correct.

I think both this and Aliwibble’s post make some sense, however I can’t agree with postponing stuff and letting idiots win.  

Covered End said:

BR7_addick said:

Covered End said:

aliwibble said:

BR7_addick said:

I’ve seen arguments for it being called off due to worries about crowd reactions, the mail ran a story but to be fair they’re probably just stirring as usual to get us all foaming at the mouth at Celtic and Liverpool.  But let’s assume they’re correct for a second.  

Since when did we give in to a minority of idiots?  I’m no monarchist that’s for sure, but that’s what anyone booing would be, an idiot.  

Since we stopped routinely having minute's silences and having minute's applauses instead. While I'm sure the vast majority of fans would observe it impeccably, it only takes a handful of pissed-up dickheads rocking up late and making a row, and nearby fans reacting angrily to that to disrupt the whole thing. And that's before we get to more organised disruption - I'd hope that anti-monarchist/anti-nationalist elements in certain fanbases would have the decency to not try to use it to make a political point, but I wouldn't bet my reputation on it, and I assume that the football authorities have made the same calculation. Given the decision had to be made less than 24 hours after there was any inkling that the Queen was ill, let alone that she had died, in order to allow clubs and fans to change their travel plans, I'm not going to give them a kicking for possibly getting it wrong. The postponements also allow more time to make a considered decision about what kind of tribute is appropriate at matches, and make everyone aware of it before the game.

Exactly. There is no way anyone can guarantee that there wouldn't have been an unsavoury incident somewhere.
The Valley is one of the best as are Charlton fans.

Yet first game of the season a Derby fan ran on the pitch during the minute's applause, removed the corner flag and then ran on again like a crazed loony.

Imagine if that was broadcast around the world showing what scum we have in this country?

Charlton fans abusing the people of Wycombe all day long acouple of weeks ago, punching a hole in the roof of a bus and throwing the plastic bits at people on the bus, trying to provoke rows with Wycombe supporters who were probably about 80 years old.

There is no way you can rely on every football fan to show respect and to postpone the games were undoubtedly correct.

I think both this and Aliwibble’s post make some sense, however I can’t agree with postponing stuff and letting idiots win.  

The alternative was risking the idiots/scum being a huge embarrassment to this country, broadcast around the world and quite possibly never forgotten, depending upon the severity.
Personally, I'm pleased we took the guaranteed safe option and not risk the country's reputation relying on good behaviour from people that never show good behaviour and wouldn't even understand the meaning of respect.