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Sport in the aftermath - What should happen? (EFL fixtures resume Tues 13th Sept - p20)
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"Concern that tributes to the Queen may not have been universally respected, and the potential for global embarrassment if fans were disrespectful, was a factor in the decision to call off all football in the U.K. this weekend."
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Well it's a good job that those idiots won't be able to make the games to come when other people do get a chance to act with dignity and express their admiration for the Queen.SELR_addicks said:"Concern that tributes to the Queen may not have been universally respected, and the potential for global embarrassment if fans were disrespectful, was a factor in the decision to call off all football in the U.K. this weekend."1 -
If that’s the case, then surely all football until after the funeral on Monday should be called off?SELR_addicks said:"Concern that tributes to the Queen may not have been universally respected, and the potential for global embarrassment if fans were disrespectful, was a factor in the decision to call off all football in the U.K. this weekend."0 -
That’s called bending over for idiots mate, we don’t do that here.Addick Addict said:
Well it's a good job that those idiots won't be able to make the games to come when other people do get a chance to act with dignity and express their admiration for the Queen.SELR_addicks said:"Concern that tributes to the Queen may not have been universally respected, and the potential for global embarrassment if fans were disrespectful, was a factor in the decision to call off all football in the U.K. this weekend."3 -
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Yes but you don't get any football supporters that like cricket too which is why the behaviour was so impeccable.killerandflash said:
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Disappointed with that - the only embarrassment would be to those that chose to show disrespect at this time - they would have only been showing themselves up in front of the world and damaging their own brand. Should have let the world see what these people are all about.SELR_addicks said:"Concern that tributes to the Queen may not have been universally respected, and the potential for global embarrassment if fans were disrespectful, was a factor in the decision to call off all football in the U.K. this weekend."4 -
Let’s be honest about it. The only club in England that I think anyone suspects this would be an issue with is Liverpool, based on their fans’ recent behaviour in cup finals.If there is even the slightest shred of truth in the fact that they called off the *entire pyramid* all because they were fearful of what those idiots would do, then shame on them.7
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A decision taken by puffed up twats who forgot that their bank accounts are puffed up by the very people whom they choose to deride. Absolutely unforgiveable.SELR_addicks said:"Concern that tributes to the Queen may not have been universally respected, and the potential for global embarrassment if fans were disrespectful, was a factor in the decision to call off all football in the U.K. this weekend."
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I said on page 1 of this thread we should have had a 2 minute silence followed by the national anthem.
I have read nothing since that changes my mind.
And having watched the start of the cricket I now know I'm right.8 - Sponsored links:
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...and there is a simple way of mitigating that - just don't televise it or give it a platform. Heavily edited highlights on MOTD for the game if they must.cafctom said:Let’s be honest about it. The only club in England that I think anyone suspects this would be an issue with is Liverpool, based on their fans’ recent behaviour in cup finals.If there is even the slightest shred of truth in the fact that they called off the *entire pyramid* all because they were fearful of what those idiots would do, then shame on them.0 -
Unfortunately we have a number of highly successful outrage-peddling media outlets in this country that would have loved that story.Manic_mania said:
...and there is a simple way of mitigating that - just don't televise it or give it a platform. Heavily edited highlights on MOTD for the game if they must.cafctom said:Let’s be honest about it. The only club in England that I think anyone suspects this would be an issue with is Liverpool, based on their fans’ recent behaviour in cup finals.If there is even the slightest shred of truth in the fact that they called off the *entire pyramid* all because they were fearful of what those idiots would do, then shame on them.6 -
That’s an excellent point. Because whatever you think of Liverpool fans, the daily mail/sun/telegraph are bigger w*nkers by a country mile. I’m glad they haven’t got their story to fuel more division with.Chunes said:
Unfortunately we have a number of highly successful outrage-peddling media outlets in this country that would have loved that story.Manic_mania said:
...and there is a simple way of mitigating that - just don't televise it or give it a platform. Heavily edited highlights on MOTD for the game if they must.cafctom said:Let’s be honest about it. The only club in England that I think anyone suspects this would be an issue with is Liverpool, based on their fans’ recent behaviour in cup finals.If there is even the slightest shred of truth in the fact that they called off the *entire pyramid* all because they were fearful of what those idiots would do, then shame on them.1 -
Surely it just comes down to numbers. Rugby has about 8 pro matches going on this weekend with much smaller crowds, cricket one game. The football leagues must have around 40 matches going on with tens of thousands of people travelling around the country, particularly around the capital which is seeing a huge influx of people not to mention all the pageantry going on today. Seems like a sensible decision to me. Not sure why kids games are postponed though think it’s a nice way for kids to remember the history of what’s going on by participating in a minutes silence.1
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I am not a royalist but I have a lot of respect for the Queen, I am saddened by her death and feel cheated by the efl that I cannot show that respect, collectively with fellow football fans. Whenever, there is a 1 or 2 minute silence there is always the odd idiot who makes a noise and nobody apart from that person themselves can stop that. I very much doubt outside the couple of clubs already mentioned there would have been a real problem and if there was it would be the clubs shamed by their own supporters for the world to see, instead we all seemingly have to bow down and miss a game of football, but more importantly a precious moment to get together and mark her life and show our respect.6
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For anyone missing the football stick the cricket on (sky sports 1, Now Tv, dodgy stream) Cracking start to the game so far.0
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Everyone will have the opportunity to show their respects to the Queen when matches resume, it doesn't have to be today.6
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Or don’t even have the anthem/minute silence at their stadium.Manic_mania said:
...and there is a simple way of mitigating that - just don't televise it or give it a platform. Heavily edited highlights on MOTD for the game if they must.cafctom said:Let’s be honest about it. The only club in England that I think anyone suspects this would be an issue with is Liverpool, based on their fans’ recent behaviour in cup finals.If there is even the slightest shred of truth in the fact that they called off the *entire pyramid* all because they were fearful of what those idiots would do, then shame on them.
Its not a cup final at Wembley, so they wouldn’t be obliged to do it.
Let them have to explain that to the world and see what it does for their ‘brand’.
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It wouldn’t harm their brand, it would nationally but not worldwide they’d get abundant support from parts of Ireland, US, parts of the Middle East and Far East.cafctom said:
Or don’t even have the anthem/minute silence at their stadium.Manic_mania said:
...and there is a simple way of mitigating that - just don't televise it or give it a platform. Heavily edited highlights on MOTD for the game if they must.cafctom said:Let’s be honest about it. The only club in England that I think anyone suspects this would be an issue with is Liverpool, based on their fans’ recent behaviour in cup finals.If there is even the slightest shred of truth in the fact that they called off the *entire pyramid* all because they were fearful of what those idiots would do, then shame on them.
Its not a cup final at Wembley, so they wouldn’t be obliged to do it.
Let them have to explain that to the world and see what it does for their ‘brand’.0 -
I find the lazy and petty tribal assumption that Liverpool fans were uniquely likely to be disruptive, almost as offensive as the “reasoning” of the FAPL. It certainly gives them cover for it.cafctom said:
Or don’t even have the anthem/minute silence at their stadium.Manic_mania said:
...and there is a simple way of mitigating that - just don't televise it or give it a platform. Heavily edited highlights on MOTD for the game if they must.cafctom said:Let’s be honest about it. The only club in England that I think anyone suspects this would be an issue with is Liverpool, based on their fans’ recent behaviour in cup finals.If there is even the slightest shred of truth in the fact that they called off the *entire pyramid* all because they were fearful of what those idiots would do, then shame on them.
Its not a cup final at Wembley, so they wouldn’t be obliged to do it.
Let them have to explain that to the world and see what it does for their ‘brand’.8 - Sponsored links:
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If today is the mark of respect from the FA and EFL, I can get behind that, no problem, but if this approach extends to beyond the funeral, I think it will be over the top. Cancelling youth football, I thought was just plain daft, but got a lie in. For those with BT Sport and craving for a fix of football, they have live Serie A and Ligue 1 matches today - watched Lens vs Troyes last night - passionate bunch of fans in Lens, that’s for sure.0
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I don’t actually think Liverpool fans (or any clubs fans) would have disrupted the minutes silence. Really silly if this was a factor in the decision making.1
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It won't extend beyond the Queen's funeral . The 7 days of mourning after the funeral is for The Royal Family, their households and I believe the military.Pavoren007 said:If today is the mark of respect from the FA and EFL, I can get behind that, no problem, but if this approach extends to beyond the funeral, I think it will be over the top. Cancelling youth football, I thought was just plain daft, but got a lie in. For those with BT Sport and craving for a fix of football, they have live Serie A and Ligue 1 matches today - watched Lens vs Troyes last night - passionate bunch of fans in Lens, that’s for sure.0 -
It is a little bit lazy but not completely inaccurate. They call themselves the socialist club ,or the peoples club. Which is not a bad thing at all, but there are extremes within all clubs, I’d argue they’re the most likely English club to boo in numbers without doubt. But it’s no reason to postpone games.PragueAddick said:
I find the lazy and petty tribal assumption that Liverpool fans were uniquely likely to be disruptive, almost as offensive as the “reasoning” of the FAPL. It certainly gives them cover for it.cafctom said:
Or don’t even have the anthem/minute silence at their stadium.Manic_mania said:
...and there is a simple way of mitigating that - just don't televise it or give it a platform. Heavily edited highlights on MOTD for the game if they must.cafctom said:Let’s be honest about it. The only club in England that I think anyone suspects this would be an issue with is Liverpool, based on their fans’ recent behaviour in cup finals.If there is even the slightest shred of truth in the fact that they called off the *entire pyramid* all because they were fearful of what those idiots would do, then shame on them.
Its not a cup final at Wembley, so they wouldn’t be obliged to do it.
Let them have to explain that to the world and see what it does for their ‘brand’.0 -
Just to add my vote / opinion!
My 94 year mother died a few years ago and I felt a lot of grieving emotions as to be expected.
But the idea that I would not go to a match or play football three days afterwards is absurd. Of course, I had my own private minute silence before the next game I went to and really wished she could be with us. I think that is normal behaviour.
I actually find all the continuous TV binging on her death quite disturbing and try to avoid it even though I did actually like the queen and can understand why she is so well respected!
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Football is hugely significant in this Country, not least in terms of the huge public attendances. You can’t even compare it to other sports, or going to the cinema ffs.
I could understand either approach but it feels to me that given footballs unparalleled significance, cancelling it does reflect and respect the enormity and historical significance of the occasion we are in the midst of.
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I have no affiliation for or against Liverpool, so no reason for you to suggest there is tribalism in what I said.PragueAddick said:
I find the lazy and petty tribal assumption that Liverpool fans were uniquely likely to be disruptive, almost as offensive as the “reasoning” of the FAPL. It certainly gives them cover for it.cafctom said:
Or don’t even have the anthem/minute silence at their stadium.Manic_mania said:
...and there is a simple way of mitigating that - just don't televise it or give it a platform. Heavily edited highlights on MOTD for the game if they must.cafctom said:Let’s be honest about it. The only club in England that I think anyone suspects this would be an issue with is Liverpool, based on their fans’ recent behaviour in cup finals.If there is even the slightest shred of truth in the fact that they called off the *entire pyramid* all because they were fearful of what those idiots would do, then shame on them.
Its not a cup final at Wembley, so they wouldn’t be obliged to do it.
Let them have to explain that to the world and see what it does for their ‘brand’.
Unless you can remind me of another English club which has repeatedly disrespected the national anthem in recent times, and are happily willing to do so by their own admission, then I’d like you to explain what is ‘lazy’ about it too?0 -
It is a confirmation that compared to 1952, the dickhead to normal person ratio in this country has shifted inexorably the wrong way.
Show some respect and go watch your sport next week.1 -
This is a quote from a made up story in the Daily Mail. Would urge caution in letting it shape opinion generally. It is a 'journalist's' attempt to stir emotions based on what may or may not have happened at a shamrock rovers game.SELR_addicks said:"Concern that tributes to the Queen may not have been universally respected, and the potential for global embarrassment if fans were disrespectful, was a factor in the decision to call off all football in the U.K. this weekend."
Source-https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-11198513/AHEAD-GAME-Fear-fan-dissent-Queen-tributes-factor-Premier-League-halt.html
Fwiw, I am appalled at the football authorities decision to cancel games. We are being taken for fools yet again.
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Football may have to stop, but the culture war continues unabated it seemsswords_alive said:
This is a quote from a made up story in the Daily Mail. Would urge caution in letting it shape opinion generally. It is a 'journalist's' attempt to stir emotions based on what may or may not have happened at a shamrock rovers game.SELR_addicks said:"Concern that tributes to the Queen may not have been universally respected, and the potential for global embarrassment if fans were disrespectful, was a factor in the decision to call off all football in the U.K. this weekend."
Source-https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-11198513/AHEAD-GAME-Fear-fan-dissent-Queen-tributes-factor-Premier-League-halt.html
Fwiw, I am appalled at the football authorities decision to cancel games. We are being taken for fools yet again.0
