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Bowyer progress at Birmingham
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Strange protest @ Birmingham tonight, understand it though
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Sounds like they've taken inspiration from our whistle protest0
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That lead didn't last long.
Taylor 61 mins 1-0
Sharp 64 mins 1-10 -
Omar Jayden Bogle puts Sheff United 2-1 up, Bowyer booked for protesting0
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If it weren't for the fact that the bottom 4 are a bit adrift of the pack then Birmingham could be in trouble. They have played 2 or 3 more games than others around them. Could easily be 5th bottom in a week or 2.1
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I must have been watching a different team to for the vast majority of the Bowyer years then because not sure any of it could be described as 'hoofball'.Swisdom said:I was reading some Birmingham stuff last night. They are not happy with their owner and assorted shenanigans there but they are also massively turning on Bowyer. Apparently using long throws a lot and “hoofball” tactics are neither pretty nor effective. He also seems to be stuck as to what to do to remedy the situation. All rings vaguely familiar if you ask me and I’d suggest he’ll be on his toes before the end of the season
Even if it was our football has hardly been any better since he left, both in style and results.
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I must have been watching a different team to for the vast majority of the Bowyer years then because not sure any of it could be described as 'hoofball'.Swisdom said:I was reading some Birmingham stuff last night. They are not happy with their owner and assorted shenanigans there but they are also massively turning on Bowyer. Apparently using long throws a lot and “hoofball” tactics are neither pretty nor effective. He also seems to be stuck as to what to do to remedy the situation. All rings vaguely familiar if you ask me and I’d suggest he’ll be on his toes before the end of the season
Even if it was our football has hardly been any better since he left, both in style and results.Some fans think anything more direct that Spain 2010 tiki-taka is hoofball. Most fans under 30 have never seen a genuine long ball team play in the way a Crazy Gang, or John Beck's Cambridge did. Even Allardyce's Bolton weren't true long ball and that's probably the last time anyone in the top flight played anything close to that direct.When we had the players to do it, we played good football under Bowyer. Our first goal in the playoff at Wembley, for example, is really underrated and wouldn't look out of place if Man City scored it. The quality of player available as the budgets got tighter and tighter meant we couldn't keep that standard up. Curbs suffered the same thing and pragmatism in search of results and survival had to take precedent over ideals of football purism.Some fans made their mind up that Bowyer was at the root of all our issues last season, though, and, even though very little has got better since he left, they will doggedly stick to that assertion until the day they die.17 -
Same old. Refs fault for the 2nd SU goal. So I found the goals at it was onside.2
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Bowyer hasn’t been the same manager since our relegation.0
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World against him or his managing ability?J BLOCK said:Bowyer hasn’t been the same manager since our relegation.
Usual Lock Stock kinda lines..."The second one shouldn't have stood. Simple as that. It was offside. The linesman said their player wasn't close enough to be interfering with play.
"The fans shouldn't be going home too disappointed. But they're upset, I'm upset and the officials will go home, and sleep like a baby and won't have a problem."
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mendonca said:
World against him or his managing ability?J BLOCK said:Bowyer hasn’t been the same manager since our relegation.
Usual Lock Stock kinda lines..."The second one shouldn't have stood. Simple as that. It was offside. The linesman said their player wasn't close enough to be interfering with play.
"The fans shouldn't be going home too disappointed. But they're upset, I'm upset and the officials will go home, and sleep like a baby and won't have a problem."
He's very good at the "siege" type mentality - the situation isn't just affecting him. He used it before with the players in the Taylor/Solly/Davis episode and he uses it here, as he has done before in post match criticism of the officials, with the "fans shouldn't be going home too disappointed. But they're upset, I'm upset" but the "officials will go home, and sleep like a baby and won't have a problem." Any professional worth their salt will be critical of their own performance and I doubt that the Ref and Linesman are any different. The only way he will truly know if that is the case is if he is actually sleeping with them!
Bowyer should, perhaps, look a bit closer to home if he wants to start attaching blame - I've yet to hear him come out in a post match press conference and attribute a good result to the ineptitude of the officials. Perhaps that's because they've never ever made a mistake that has worked in his favour. In which case he really is THE unluckiest manager of all time.2 -
The 2nd goal was clearly offside, Bowyer was correct and Quest agreed.mendonca said:
World against him or his managing ability?J BLOCK said:Bowyer hasn’t been the same manager since our relegation.
Usual Lock Stock kinda lines..."The second one shouldn't have stood. Simple as that. It was offside. The linesman said their player wasn't close enough to be interfering with play.
"The fans shouldn't be going home too disappointed. But they're upset, I'm upset and the officials will go home, and sleep like a baby and won't have a problem."
It wasn't the scorer, but earlier on when the offside player ran through and the goalie had to come out to clear.2 -
But the man himself says it is what it is.Covered End said:
The 2nd goal was clearly offside, Bowyer was correct and Quest agreed.mendonca said:
World against him or his managing ability?J BLOCK said:Bowyer hasn’t been the same manager since our relegation.
Usual Lock Stock kinda lines..."The second one shouldn't have stood. Simple as that. It was offside. The linesman said their player wasn't close enough to be interfering with play.
"The fans shouldn't be going home too disappointed. But they're upset, I'm upset and the officials will go home, and sleep like a baby and won't have a problem."
It wasn't the scorer, but earlier on when the offside player ran through and the goalie had to come out to clear.1 -
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Very state media brodcast-esque.Scoham said:
Wouldn't look out of place being uttered by the country that shall not be named for fear of it ecompassing each and every citizen and causing unnecessary hatred or malignment.0 -
Is thus the C*****e way of backing a manager?Big_Bad_World said:
Very state media brodcast-esque.Scoham said:
Wouldn't look out of place being uttered by the country that shall not be named for fear of it ecompassing each and every citizen and causing unnecessary hatred or malignment.
Publicly stated support a week before they 'disappear'.
I fear 30 years in a prison camp is looming for Bowyer if they don't go up...
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Nah.
No door being eased open for a bit of casual anti Chinese racism here.1 -
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Then don’t mention it would be more appropriate.
If the person is an absolute tool then that is all that needs to be said or alluded to.4 - Sponsored links:
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Fair enough.SELR_addicks said:0 -
To be fair, I'm sure he does give himself a bit of blame privately. People ask for humility from managers but the reality is if you had a manager who was coming out every other week blaming thsmelves for losses they wouldn't last long in the job. Bowyer has taken the Alex Ferguson approach of siege mentality, everyone is against us, fight the conspiracy. The sad thing for him is he hasn't got the self-control to do the other side of it, which is keep everything in-house, never criticise your players publicly even if you then go back and beat them to death in the dressing room afterwards. If Quinton Fortune scored an own goal Ferguson would blame the length of the grass, say it was Arsene Wenger's fault even if they were playing Coventry and scream at anyone who crticised Fortune...and then make him run 20 laps the next training session.Addick Addict said:mendonca said:
World against him or his managing ability?J BLOCK said:Bowyer hasn’t been the same manager since our relegation.
Usual Lock Stock kinda lines..."The second one shouldn't have stood. Simple as that. It was offside. The linesman said their player wasn't close enough to be interfering with play.
"The fans shouldn't be going home too disappointed. But they're upset, I'm upset and the officials will go home, and sleep like a baby and won't have a problem."
He's very good at the "siege" type mentality - the situation isn't just affecting him. He used it before with the players in the Taylor/Solly/Davis episode and he uses it here, as he has done before in post match criticism of the officials, with the "fans shouldn't be going home too disappointed. But they're upset, I'm upset" but the "officials will go home, and sleep like a baby and won't have a problem." Any professional worth their salt will be critical of their own performance and I doubt that the Ref and Linesman are any different. The only way he will truly know if that is the case is if he is actually sleeping with them!
Bowyer should, perhaps, look a bit closer to home if he wants to start attaching blame - I've yet to hear him come out in a post match press conference and attribute a good result to the ineptitude of the officials. Perhaps that's because they've never ever made a mistake that has worked in his favour. In which case he really is THE unluckiest manager of all time.
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Bowyer probably misses Roland0
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“Meet on the day…to compare dildos” !!!!!!!!!
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Directly copying what we did. I always thought such tactics were really effective, the pitch covered in something silly like rubber pigs or taxis makes a brilliant news story, creating far more publicity than normal protests3
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Problem is the ‘object’ of choice here is regarded as a bit unsavoury so any reporting may just be blocked 🤷🏻♂️killerandflash said:Directly copying what we did. I always thought such tactics were really effective, the pitch covered in something silly like rubber pigs or taxis makes a brilliant news story, creating far more publicity than normal protestsThey’ve been a bit low brow with their ideas here really.5 -
I agree. It's fine to protest by throwing non aggressive things onto the pitch but to make it news worthy to ALL media outlets its good to make it non confrontational & appropriate. Lots of kids attend football matches as well as watching highlight programmes afterwards. This might get coverage but for all the wrong reasonsEugenesAxe said:
Problem is the ‘object’ of choice here is regarded as a bit unsavoury so any reporting may just be blocked 🤷🏻♂️killerandflash said:Directly copying what we did. I always thought such tactics were really effective, the pitch covered in something silly like rubber pigs or taxis makes a brilliant news story, creating far more publicity than normal protestsThey’ve been a bit low brow with their ideas here really.
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It reminds me of that West Ham fan/idiot on YouTube who gets selfies with players while waving a dildo about in the other hand, West Ham Dildo on tour or something.EugenesAxe said:
Problem is the ‘object’ of choice here is regarded as a bit unsavoury so any reporting may just be blocked 🤷🏻♂️killerandflash said:Directly copying what we did. I always thought such tactics were really effective, the pitch covered in something silly like rubber pigs or taxis makes a brilliant news story, creating far more publicity than normal protestsThey’ve been a bit low brow with their ideas here really.0 -
Does it have the club badge on? 🤔Charlton_Road_James said:
It reminds me of that West Ham fan/idiot on YouTube who gets selfies with players while waving a dildo about in the other hand, West Ham Dildo on tour or something.EugenesAxe said:
Problem is the ‘object’ of choice here is regarded as a bit unsavoury so any reporting may just be blocked 🤷🏻♂️killerandflash said:Directly copying what we did. I always thought such tactics were really effective, the pitch covered in something silly like rubber pigs or taxis makes a brilliant news story, creating far more publicity than normal protestsThey’ve been a bit low brow with their ideas here really.2
