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  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,764
    edited November 2021
    Confirmed play-off seeds:

    - Portugal
    - Italy
    - Scotland
    - Russia

    Confirmed play-off unseeded:

    - North Macedonia
    - Austria

    Confirmed play-offs (seed TBD):

    - Sweden
    - Poland
    - Wales
    - Czech Republic

    Potential play-off teams (to be decided tomorrow):

    - Turkey OR Norway OR Netherlands
    - Finland OR Ukraine
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,764
    These twelve teams will be drawn into groups of four (two seeded, two unseeded) to each play for one qualification place in a semi-final -> final format.


    For example for one qualifying place you could have:

    Scotland OR Austria vs Portugal OR North Macedonia 
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,304
    Callumcafc said:
    These twelve teams will be drawn into groups of four (two seeded, two unseeded) to each play for one qualification place in a semi-final -> final format.


    For example for one qualifying place you could have:

    Scotland OR Austria vs Portugal OR North Macedonia 
    Am sure Italy and Portugal will be kept apart as well ;)
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,844
    Italy not qualifying automatically just makes it more annoying how we lost to then in the summer
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,764
    ForeverAddickted said:
    Callumcafc said:
    These twelve teams will be drawn into groups of four (two seeded, two unseeded) to each play for one qualification place in a semi-final -> final format.


    For example for one qualifying place you could have:

    Scotland OR Austria vs Portugal OR North Macedonia 
    Am sure Italy and Portugal will be kept apart as well ;)
    I fully expect Italy, Portugal and Sweden to be at least two out of the three teams to make it through the play-off round. All three of them if they are kept apart.
  • MillwallFan
    MillwallFan Posts: 3,347
    killerandflash said:
    Italy not qualifying automatically just makes it more annoying how we lost to then in the summer
    Still guts me
  • North Lower Neil
    North Lower Neil Posts: 22,949
    Callumcafc said:
    North Lower Neil said:
    The playoffs, is it right only 4 teams qualify from 12?
    3 from 12.
    Cheers.
  • ValleyGary
    ValleyGary Posts: 37,975
    I wouldn’t expect anything from Sweden, they lost 2-0 to Georgia 
  • cafcdave123
    cafcdave123 Posts: 11,491
    Billy Gilmour was great for Scotland again tonight, how the hell he hasn't been getting a kick for Norwich amazes me
  • North Lower Neil
    North Lower Neil Posts: 22,949
    Callumcafc said:
    ForeverAddickted said:
    Callumcafc said:
    These twelve teams will be drawn into groups of four (two seeded, two unseeded) to each play for one qualification place in a semi-final -> final format.


    For example for one qualifying place you could have:

    Scotland OR Austria vs Portugal OR North Macedonia 
    Am sure Italy and Portugal will be kept apart as well ;)
    I fully expect Italy, Portugal and Sweden to be at least two out of the three teams to make it through the play-off round. All three of them if they are kept apart.
    Could still have Netherlands in there too.
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  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,304
    North Lower Neil said:
    Callumcafc said:
    ForeverAddickted said:
    Callumcafc said:
    These twelve teams will be drawn into groups of four (two seeded, two unseeded) to each play for one qualification place in a semi-final -> final format.


    For example for one qualifying place you could have:

    Scotland OR Austria vs Portugal OR North Macedonia 
    Am sure Italy and Portugal will be kept apart as well ;)
    I fully expect Italy, Portugal and Sweden to be at least two out of the three teams to make it through the play-off round. All three of them if they are kept apart.
    Could still have Netherlands in there too.
    Pretty impossible really

    Turkey would need to win 14-0 and Netherlands would have to draw with Norway

    If Turkey and Norway win on the other hand, Netherlands miss out on another World Cup
  • Swindon_Addick
    Swindon_Addick Posts: 1,633
    I think Netherlands could end up in the playoffs if they lose to Norway and Turkey fail to beat Montenegro. Not a particularly likely scenario, but not at all impossible.
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,304
    edited November 2021
    Swindon_Addick said:
    I think Netherlands could end up in the playoffs if they lose to Norway and Turkey fail to beat Montenegro. Not a particularly likely scenario, but not at all impossible.
    Cheers, didnt think of that scenario as had Turkey down for certain winners against Montenegro

    Really dont get how Turkey are so good in Qualifying, they were mega shit at the Euros
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,844
    cafcdave123 said:
    Billy Gilmour was great for Scotland again tonight, how the hell he hasn't been getting a kick for Norwich amazes me

  • se9addick
    se9addick Posts: 32,034
    cafcdave123 said:
    Billy Gilmour was great for Scotland again tonight, how the hell he hasn't been getting a kick for Norwich amazes me
    Hopefully Chelsea can recall him in January and send him somewhere else.
  • Albertan_Addick
    Albertan_Addick Posts: 173
    Exiled_Addick said:
    Chris_from_Sidcup said:
    Callumcafc said:
    Great wins for both Canada and the US. Still a long way to go in qualifying but you’d have to fancy they both have excellent chances at qualifying now.
    USA and Mexico will probably be the top 2, so Canada have to beat Panama to get 3rd and qualify.

    If they finish 4th they go into a play off, which is ok if they draw a side from Oceania or Asia, but if it's the team from South America i don't think they'd win.
    Canada are at home to Mexico on Tuesday and there’s a strong chance of snow by then (we’re already several weeks late in the year for there to be none on the ground yet). Mexico, I would imagine, are a bit better than Canada but the cold will level things up a bit. Canada were better than I expected last night. They played some really nice stuff last night, albeit against weak opponents, but tried to walk it in at times. They have a very decent chance of qualifying but I agree any South American side would start as strong favourites against them. 
    I was there on Friday too Exiled! they're predicting snow and -11c for Tuesday night. Not sure how Mexico will enjoy that ha ha!
  • North Lower Neil
    North Lower Neil Posts: 22,949
    cafcdave123 said:
    Billy Gilmour was great for Scotland again tonight, how the hell he hasn't been getting a kick for Norwich amazes me
    Terrible loan all round, Chelsea must be annoyed he's probably played less than he would have of he stayed and Farke can't have rated him.

    Maybe Dean Smith will.

    Gilmour and McGinn seem to have a really good partnership going.
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,764
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,764
    edited November 2021
    Guaranteed Pot 1 in WC 2022: Qatar, Belgium, Brazil, France, England, Spain.

    Could still join them: two of Argentina, Italy, Portugal, Mexico, Denmark

    Guaranteed Pot 2: Germany, Switzerland, Croatia.
  • North Lower Neil
    North Lower Neil Posts: 22,949
    One group is going to be so much softer for having Qatar over any of the other 7.

    Imagine being in Pot 4, thinking you've got no chance and getting Qatar, USA, and someone like Sweden.
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  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,764
    Would be good if a couple of those nations can miss out. Do not like the look of Uruguay and Colombia being in pot 3.
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,304
    Callumcafc said:
    Would be good if a couple of those nations can miss out. Do not like the look of Uruguay and Colombia being in pot 3.
    Especially if we pick Germany from pot two
  • ValleyGary
    ValleyGary Posts: 37,975
    Callumcafc said:
    Would be good if a couple of those nations can miss out. Do not like the look of Uruguay and Colombia being in pot 3.
    They’re both toilet. South American football is shocking. Outside of 3/4 possible European nations, there is nothing to fear.
  • Chris_from_Sidcup
    Chris_from_Sidcup Posts: 36,010
    I'm not at all worried about our WC draw, teams will want to avoid us, not us worrying about who's in pot 3!
  • hoof_it_up_to_benty
    hoof_it_up_to_benty Posts: 22,443
    It has cheered me up that Italy and Portugal have ended up in the playoffs.
  • Neil_Heaney
    Neil_Heaney Posts: 368
    ValleyGary said:
    Callumcafc said:
    Would be good if a couple of those nations can miss out. Do not like the look of Uruguay and Colombia being in pot 3.
    They’re both toilet. South American football is shocking. Outside of 3/4 possible European nations, there is nothing to fear.
    Uruguay knocked us out in 2014 and Colombia came within a whisker in 2018. They're not 'toilet' and South American qualifying is the most tough and competitive around. Brazil and Argentina are looking pretty strong again too. We should have enough to beat the lot of them but you can't go writing off strong footballing nations. 
  • cafcdave123
    cafcdave123 Posts: 11,491
    North Lower Neil said:
    cafcdave123 said:
    Billy Gilmour was great for Scotland again tonight, how the hell he hasn't been getting a kick for Norwich amazes me
    Terrible loan all round, Chelsea must be annoyed he's probably played less than he would have of he stayed and Farke can't have rated him.

    Maybe Dean Smith will.

    Gilmour and McGinn seem to have a really good partnership going.
    yeah I'd imagine they will be speaking to Smith/watching if/how Gilmour plays and potentially calling him back in January regardless.

    can see Gerard trying to get him to Villa in Jan 
  • johnnybev1987
    johnnybev1987 Posts: 11,410
    Callumcafc said:
    Guaranteed Pot 1 in WC 2022: Qatar, Belgium, Brazil, France, England, Spain.

    Could still join them: two of Argentina, Italy, Portugal, Mexico, Denmark

    Guaranteed Pot 2: Germany, Switzerland, Croatia.
    No doubt we will get Germany/ Croatia, Germany are a completely different team now following the shambles at the Euros so could be a tricky draw, although on the face of it we shouldn't fear anyone. 
  • Chris_from_Sidcup
    Chris_from_Sidcup Posts: 36,010
    Neil_Heaney said:
    ValleyGary said:
    Callumcafc said:
    Would be good if a couple of those nations can miss out. Do not like the look of Uruguay and Colombia being in pot 3.
    They’re both toilet. South American football is shocking. Outside of 3/4 possible European nations, there is nothing to fear.
    Uruguay knocked us out in 2014 and Colombia came within a whisker in 2018. They're not 'toilet' and South American qualifying is the most tough and competitive around. Brazil and Argentina are looking pretty strong again too. We should have enough to beat the lot of them but you can't go writing off strong footballing nations. 
    That was 7 years ago, we'd beat them now. 

    As things stand Uruguay won't even qualify anyway, they're currently 6th in a 10 team group.
  • Swindon_Addick
    Swindon_Addick Posts: 1,633
    Assuming the rules for setting up the groups are similar to previous world cups, I guess there's likely to be a rule that no more than 2 European countries go in one group, and no two from any other confederation? If so, given how many European countries look like being in pot 2, it's quite likely we'll get a European opponent from that pot and therefore not get a European from a lower pot? Just thinking here about where Scotland or Wales may end up in the event either of them makes it through the playoffs.

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