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Rumours Rumours - Summer 2021 edition (Deadline Day from p814)
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I'll certainly be having a little giggle when the team sheet gets announced if he's on thereeastterrace6168 said:
Fair enough but that's what we have been fed for ages isn't in "lots going on behind the scenes", nice and quiet, so who knows, could all be cleared paperwork wise for todayForeverAddickted said:
Its not been announced on the OS yet.Pavoren007 said:If he has signed on loan, does anybody know when? Is he eligible for today’s game?
So in that case I'd be extremely surprised if we've kept it quiet since midday yesterday.
I dont see why teams dont do it more... e.g. we didnt say anything about Forster-Caskey's injury ahead of the Sunderland game until that moment, so why not do it with signings as well if everything has been signed off in time.2 -
Only thing I'd question about Arter is why forest who are bottom of the league don't fancy him.
But he should still be good enough for L16 -
BigRedEvil said:Only thing I'd question about Arter is why forest who are bottom of the league don't fancy him.
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Similar reactions from Sheffield Wednesday fans when we signed Michael Morrison from them. For some reason it just doesn’t work at some clubs. I’d be happy with him back.12
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I agree but if we signed someone like Omole then Adkins could see him as LB and CB cover.DamoNorthStand said:Think that would leave us needing a left back, back up right sided centre back, and striker.0 -
Despite all the Watson jokes, I can't forget that the big fish came to us as Forest's player of the year.8
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This is why I'd advise caution for now. Admittedly, Arter has shown he can do it at a much higher level - but were Sunderland fans wrong about Dobson?2
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Arter would be a great signing at this level, add to that the “unfinished business”. He is getting on a bit though.0
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My mood has been lifted with the news that Harry Arter might be joining
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Think we need a quality out and out left back - especially for Adkins current system.cafcfan1990 said:
I agree but if we signed someone like Omole then Adkins could see him as LB and CB cover.DamoNorthStand said:Think that would leave us needing a left back, back up right sided centre back, and striker.7 -
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Arter certainly has all the signs of being a very good signing
Just being a little bit cautious for the time being that he's not going to be another Ben Watson and his best days are behind him - Unfortunately it gets to a point for all where players just cant perform to the level expected.1 -
I’ll be the voice of caution here…
flopped at his last three clubs (Cardiff, Fulham, Forrest) Now considered an injury prone and Forrest fans are delighted to get rid (and they are shite)
He’s 31 does he still have the hunger after earning Prem money? and means we now likely won’t be in for Dempsey or Lowery now.
Not exactly one for the future. I predict this doesn’t end well. Would much rather one of the above personally - young & hungry and a permanent.20 -
I don't disagree, I think we need a LB and a CB. But if we only sign one I can see us signing one that can play both, particularly given rumours of Bridge and Omole who both fit that.DamoNorthStand said:
Think we need a quality out and out left back - especially for Adkins current system.cafcfan1990 said:
I agree but if we signed someone like Omole then Adkins could see him as LB and CB cover.DamoNorthStand said:Think that would leave us needing a left back, back up right sided centre back, and striker.1 -
Yes, they were.Leuth said:This is why I'd advise caution for now. Admittedly, Arter has shown he can do it at a much higher level - but were Sunderland fans wrong about Dobson?
We haven’t given him someone to pass to in midfield who can then make plays. Dobson sits in front of the back four well and collects the ball to pass it on. Since the Wednesday game, we’ve simply reverted to our back four lumping it up to Stockley4 -
I'll be curious to see what happens with Tom Lowery if he remains @ Crewe beyond the Window.Maccn05 said:I’ll be the voice of caution here…
flopped at his last three clubs (Cardiff, Fulham, Forrest) Now considered an injury prone and Forrest fans are delighted to get rid (and they are shite)
He’s 31 does he still have the hunger after earning Prem money? and means we now likely won’t be in for Dempsey or Lowery now.
Not exactly one for the future. I predict this doesn’t end well. Would much rather one of the above personally - young & hungry and a permanent.
He's clearly not going to play, even for the U23s if he doesnt sign a new deal
So does he sign something with a bit of a pathetic release clause so they get something for him next season... Or does it drag on and Crewe end up selling him for even less come January, a bit like what we were forced to do with Doughty.1 -
I did I didn’t realise that arter was 31. That’s relatively young in terms of Charlton midfielders4
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Well he was a PL regular in 16-17 and again in 18-19 and now he's 31 and coming to league one, so i'd say it's pretty obvious his best days are behind him.ForeverAddickted said:Arter certainly has all the signs of being a very good signing
Just being a little bit cautious for the time being that he's not going to be another Ben Watson and his best days are behind him - Unfortunately it gets to a point for all where players just cant perform to the level expected.
But he should be more than capable of pulling the strings in this division, he's not past it. Unfair to compare him to Watson who is 36. I think he'll be a decent signing*
*i also thought this when Gunter signed.2 -
Any new player carries that risk. Arter is 31 not 36. At his age you would expect that major injury aside, he should be still 99% effective. Footballers these days are fitter and better prepared than ever before. A 31 year old who still has the mental drive should be still near his peak.ForeverAddickted said:Arter certainly has all the signs of being a very good signing
Just being a little bit cautious for the time being that he's not going to be another Ben Watson and his best days are behind him - Unfortunately it gets to a point for all where players just cant perform to the level expected.3 -
If that was the sum total of Dobson's job, you or I could do it. He's been torrid and has had to be substituted almost every gameCAFC_Norfolk said:
Yes, they were.Leuth said:This is why I'd advise caution for now. Admittedly, Arter has shown he can do it at a much higher level - but were Sunderland fans wrong about Dobson?
We haven’t given him someone to pass to in midfield who can then make plays. Dobson sits in front of the back four well and collects the ball to pass it on. Since the Wednesday game, we’ve simply reverted to our back four lumping it up to Stockley0 -
Totally disagree. He was mom against sheff w. He played well against Wigan and soon as he was substituted, our midfield collapsed. He was substituted because we changed tactics and formation, not because of performanceLeuth said:
If that was the sum total of Dobson's job, you or I could do it. He's been torrid and has had to be substituted almost every gameCAFC_Norfolk said:
Yes, they were.Leuth said:This is why I'd advise caution for now. Admittedly, Arter has shown he can do it at a much higher level - but were Sunderland fans wrong about Dobson?
We haven’t given him someone to pass to in midfield who can then make plays. Dobson sits in front of the back four well and collects the ball to pass it on. Since the Wednesday game, we’ve simply reverted to our back four lumping it up to Stockley
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Good signing for this level, experienced, good on ball, can play a pass. Midfield looking a lot better already0
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You weren't at Milton Keynes then!Todds_right_hook said:
Totally disagree. He was mom against sheff w. He played well against Wigan and soon as he was substituted, our midfield collapsed. He was substituted because we changed tactics and formation, not because of performanceLeuth said:
If that was the sum total of Dobson's job, you or I could do it. He's been torrid and has had to be substituted almost every gameCAFC_Norfolk said:
Yes, they were.Leuth said:This is why I'd advise caution for now. Admittedly, Arter has shown he can do it at a much higher level - but were Sunderland fans wrong about Dobson?
We haven’t given him someone to pass to in midfield who can then make plays. Dobson sits in front of the back four well and collects the ball to pass it on. Since the Wednesday game, we’ve simply reverted to our back four lumping it up to Stockley0 -
Football is chock full of players that for myriad reasons struggle at one club and thrive at another. It is the job of the Gallens of this world to identify those young players who for whatever reason don’t make the expected progress from their early potential and decide whether or not there is a bargain to be had. Sometimes it will pay off and other times it won’t. I certainly haven’t written off either Dobson or Clare. I very much doubt either we’re brought in to be immediate first team starters but as squad players with potential. I don’t think either were or are ready to carry the midfield or weight of expectation at Charlton. In a years time who knows.5
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Edited you post for accuracyShootersHillGuru said:Football is cock full of players that for myriad reasons struggle at one club and thrive at another. It is the job of the Gallens of this world to identify those young players who for whatever reason don’t make the expected progress from their early potential and decide whether or not there is a bargain to be had. Sometimes it will pay off and other times it won’t. I certainly haven’t written off either Dobson or Clare. I very much doubt either we’re brought in to be immediate first team starters but as squad players with potential. I don’t think either were or are ready to carry the midfield or weight of expectation at Charlton. In a years time who knows.2 -
Absolute nonsense .Leuth said:
If that was the sum total of Dobson's job, you or I could do it. He's been torrid and has had to be substituted almost every gameCAFC_Norfolk said:
Yes, they were.Leuth said:This is why I'd advise caution for now. Admittedly, Arter has shown he can do it at a much higher level - but were Sunderland fans wrong about Dobson?
We haven’t given him someone to pass to in midfield who can then make plays. Dobson sits in front of the back four well and collects the ball to pass it on. Since the Wednesday game, we’ve simply reverted to our back four lumping it up to Stockley9 -
Even if true that makes it more good games than bad and certainly not "torrid." He's never going to be a dynamic playmaker type but we don't need him to be.Leuth said:
You weren't at Milton Keynes then!Todds_right_hook said:
Totally disagree. He was mom against sheff w. He played well against Wigan and soon as he was substituted, our midfield collapsed. He was substituted because we changed tactics and formation, not because of performanceLeuth said:
If that was the sum total of Dobson's job, you or I could do it. He's been torrid and has had to be substituted almost every gameCAFC_Norfolk said:
Yes, they were.Leuth said:This is why I'd advise caution for now. Admittedly, Arter has shown he can do it at a much higher level - but were Sunderland fans wrong about Dobson?
We haven’t given him someone to pass to in midfield who can then make plays. Dobson sits in front of the back four well and collects the ball to pass it on. Since the Wednesday game, we’ve simply reverted to our back four lumping it up to Stockley3 -
Didn't change it to 'Carlton', deducted marksKiwiValley said:
Edited you post for accuracyShootersHillGuru said:Football is cock full of players that for myriad reasons struggle at one club and thrive at another. It is the job of the Gallens of this world to identify those young players who for whatever reason don’t make the expected progress from their early potential and decide whether or not there is a bargain to be had. Sometimes it will pay off and other times it won’t. I certainly haven’t written off either Dobson or Clare. I very much doubt either we’re brought in to be immediate first team starters but as squad players with potential. I don’t think either were or are ready to carry the midfield or weight of expectation at Charlton. In a years time who knows.0 -
He didn’t flop at Cardiff. Was their best player in their Premier League season.Maccn05 said:I’ll be the voice of caution here…
flopped at his last three clubs (Cardiff, Fulham, Forrest) Now considered an injury prone and Forrest fans are delighted to get rid (and they are shite)
He’s 31 does he still have the hunger after earning Prem money? and means we now likely won’t be in for Dempsey or Lowery now.
Not exactly one for the future. I predict this doesn’t end well. Would much rather one of the above personally - young & hungry and a permanent.0 -
This is literally Ben Watson 2.0.His legs have gone2
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Firstly. WIOTOS.....so lets temper our excitement a bit shall we.
Secondly. Doesn't really fit in with our "lowering the age of the squad" mantra.
Thirdly. Smacks of desperation & not a position we really need filling - unless he is going to play left back.
But is an ex player & everyone wets their pants wanting to sign those so lets crack on with the " now we are going to storm the league".
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