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Police say they removed more than 500 e-scooters from the streets of London last week.
Officers confiscated 507 of the contraptions during "proactive patrols" across all boroughs.
The "week of action" was triggered by the increased usage of uninsured e-scooters in London, police said.
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What happens to them? I'm unclear whether all the businesses selling them do a thorough check on whether they will be used legally?clive said:Police say they removed more than 500 e-scooters from the streets of London last week.
Officers confiscated 507 of the contraptions during "proactive patrols" across all boroughs.
The "week of action" was triggered by the increased usage of uninsured e-scooters in London, police said.
We have a vehicle document so why not one for scooters?0 -
Exactly! I don't understand why/how it is so easy to buy them if they can only be used legally off road (which must be rare in the scheme of things) or if hiredhoof_it_up_to_benty said:
What happens to them? I'm unclear whether all the businesses selling them do a thorough check on whether they will be used legally?clive said:Police say they removed more than 500 e-scooters from the streets of London last week.
Officers confiscated 507 of the contraptions during "proactive patrols" across all boroughs.
The "week of action" was triggered by the increased usage of uninsured e-scooters in London, police said.
We have a vehicle document so why not one for scooters?0 -
It almost suggests the government haven't thought this through.PrincessFiona said:
Exactly! I don't understand why/how it is so easy to buy them if they can only be used legally off road (which must be rare in the scheme of things) or if hiredhoof_it_up_to_benty said:
What happens to them? I'm unclear whether all the businesses selling them do a thorough check on whether they will be used legally?clive said:Police say they removed more than 500 e-scooters from the streets of London last week.
Officers confiscated 507 of the contraptions during "proactive patrols" across all boroughs.
The "week of action" was triggered by the increased usage of uninsured e-scooters in London, police said.
We have a vehicle document so why not one for scooters?2 -
Told off and given a note for their parents in Sidcupclive said:Police say they removed more than 500 e-scooters from the streets of London last week.
Officers confiscated 507 of the contraptions during "proactive patrols" across all boroughs.
The "week of action" was triggered by the increased usage of uninsured e-scooters in London, police said.
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Should be an immediate confiscation.Wilma said:
Told off and given a note for their parents in Sidcupclive said:Police say they removed more than 500 e-scooters from the streets of London last week.
Officers confiscated 507 of the contraptions during "proactive patrols" across all boroughs.
The "week of action" was triggered by the increased usage of uninsured e-scooters in London, police said.
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It's okay - I'm sure they told PC Dan they'll never use them again.ME14addick said:
Should be an immediate confiscation.Wilma said:
Told off and given a note for their parents in Sidcupclive said:Police say they removed more than 500 e-scooters from the streets of London last week.
Officers confiscated 507 of the contraptions during "proactive patrols" across all boroughs.
The "week of action" was triggered by the increased usage of uninsured e-scooters in London, police said.
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'Pushed their scooter home'Wilma said:
Told off and given a note for their parents in Sidcupclive said:Police say they removed more than 500 e-scooters from the streets of London last week.
Officers confiscated 507 of the contraptions during "proactive patrols" across all boroughs.
The "week of action" was triggered by the increased usage of uninsured e-scooters in London, police said.
Yeah, OK mate.
Through the park gates, wnker sign and hopped on and ridden through the estate4 -
They are being collected in a location and can be reclaimed for a fee. Same as when a car ends up in the pound.hoof_it_up_to_benty said:
What happens to them? I'm unclear whether all the businesses selling them do a thorough check on whether they will be used legally?clive said:Police say they removed more than 500 e-scooters from the streets of London last week.
Officers confiscated 507 of the contraptions during "proactive patrols" across all boroughs.
The "week of action" was triggered by the increased usage of uninsured e-scooters in London, police said.
We have a vehicle document so why not one for scooters?0 -
The real problem isn’t the cycles, e-scooters etc it’s the people using them. Most folks have a brain, so far it seems that the majority of cyclists are clued up but when it comes to e-scooters it’s about 50/50.4
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London e-scooters could be '100 times more dangerous than bicycles'
https://www.mylondon.news/news/london-e-scooters-could-100-20662660
E-scooters 'are 100 times more dangerous than bicycles', admit transport chiefs - as trials for the vehicles begin in London next month. Electric scooter trials will begin in London next month – despite an admission by transport chiefs that they could be 100 times more dangerous than bicycles.22 May 2021
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As annoying as they are, I really don't see the difference between them and the electric bikes flying around. Some of those bikes are super quick and surely come under the same laws as the scooters.0
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It's legal to use electric bikes but there are regulations in place and they are supposed to be speed limited. I imagine this will just be another problem.Rob7Lee said:As annoying as they are, I really don't see the difference between them and the electric bikes flying around. Some of those bikes are super quick and surely come under the same laws as the scooters.
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There seems to be a difference in the people who use e-scooters and how they are used (generally)Rob7Lee said:As annoying as they are, I really don't see the difference between them and the electric bikes flying around. Some of those bikes are super quick and surely come under the same laws as the scooters.1 -
Glad to hear your department are working on it. I'm sure someone else will have already thought of it, but what would be the problem with making it mandatory to have an insurance badge fitted to all scooters and bikes? Something the size of a PSV badge would not be obtrusive, any scooter riden without a badge would be liable for confiscation. They could even be fitted with tracker chips to monitor speed and pavement use.usetobunkin said:I work for the DVSA, we have a whole dept looking into micro mobility, and the legal/construction and use questions, however one thing is becoming clear some form of registration and insurance for both cyclists, and e-scooters, powered skate boards will be needed.
The question is how do we enforce it as most vehicle legislation starts once the vehicle weighs above 35kgs and can exceed 10kph, (Fast walk). It might have to be done at point of sale( we were told good luck with that given the internet), however most cycles
are obviously well below 35kgs.
Most cyclist are only too aware what they might look like when the exit from the underside of any motor vehicle. Its only a matter of time before e-scooters start becoming a KSI statistic, in significant numbers.
For all the rhetoric it myself and Met Police colleagues who have to talk to drivers who have had a serious collision, and believe me it effects us all. Especially the guys and girls in the white hats who have to deliver the death message.
Cycle and drive with consideration for ALL road users, from the pedestrian with their ear phone in, to the disabled who might not be quite so nimble, to the cyclist who jumps the lights, don't get in a fluster,
just make sure YOU are as safe as you can be.2 -
"Glad to hear your department are working on it. I'm sure someone else will have already thought of it, but what would be the problem with making it mandatory to have an insurance badge fitted to all scooters and bikes? Something the size of a PSV badge would not be obtrusive, any scooter riden without a badge would be liable for confiscation. They could even be fitted with tracker chips to monitor speed and pavement use."
Badges (like registration plates) can be forged, copied, and stolen. And who would police it ? The Met? us (DVSA), Local Councils? As for tracker chips they can be blocked, and what about peoples right to privacy?
It will take an Act Of Parliament to address the whole, micro-mobility issue, remember the any act will have to include disable persons electric carriages, electric rickshaws, etc.
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Thanks for your response @usedtobunkin Obviously there are a lot of issues with it, perhaps there are more that you're aware of and I'm not. In response to your points, I'd say the following.
- Badges (like registration plates) can be forged, copied, and stolen.
- And who would police it ? The Met? us (DVSA), Local Councils?
- As for tracker chips they can be blocked, and what about peoples right to privacy?
- It will take an Act Of Parliament to address the whole, micro-mobility issue, remember the any act will have to include disable persons electric carriages, electric rickshaws, etc.
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16 year old boy on an E scooter killed in Bromley this morning.0
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Just to add a bit of context, it was a hit and run by a drunk driver at 1am this morning.Baldybonce said:16 year old boy on an E scooter killed in Bromley this morning.0 -
If they know the person was drunk, they've been caught?stop_shouting said:
Just to add a bit of context, it was a hit and run by a drunk driver at 1am this morning.Baldybonce said:16 year old boy on an E scooter killed in Bromley this morning.0 -
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While the kid lay dying on the floor someone nicked the scooter too.AddicksAddict said:
If they know the person was drunk, they've been caught?stop_shouting said:
Just to add a bit of context, it was a hit and run by a drunk driver at 1am this morning.Baldybonce said:16 year old boy on an E scooter killed in Bromley this morning.0 -
We are surrounded by scum.0
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Jesus Christ what is wrong with some people.PopIcon said:
While the kid lay dying on the floor someone nicked the scooter too.AddicksAddict said:
If they know the person was drunk, they've been caught?stop_shouting said:
Just to add a bit of context, it was a hit and run by a drunk driver at 1am this morning.Baldybonce said:16 year old boy on an E scooter killed in Bromley this morning.
rip the lad who was killed0 -
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Radio saying that the rider stopped and apologised to the child and mother then rode off. They believe that he didn’t realise how serious the collision was.0
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shocking, hope the little one is ok - am sure this won't be the last of these sort of stories around e-scooters, I've seen some of them belting along
(what was a 3 year old doing in the park at 8.30pm?)0 -
Yea I see that too on sky news that he stopped to say sorry.
'Sorry for smashing my illegally driven e-scooter into your 3 year old daughter causing her life changing injuries but I must dash'3 -
Elthamaddick said:shocking, hope the little one is ok - am sure this won't be the last of these sort of stories around e-scooters, I've seen some of them belting along
(what was a 3 year old doing in the park at 8.30pm?)
My guess is that his mum took him out to get some fresh air and exercise once the worst of the heat had passed, much the same as people should be doing with their dogs at the moment
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