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England Cricket Summer 2020
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I hadn't realised that Buttler hasn't any Test and only two First Class stumpings to his name0
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Odd looking score card. 2 centuries (one biggie) and then just much at all. 3rd best score is extras.0
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Sparkling innings from Jos here, cementing his spot for the next 4 series0
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I’m assuming you meant 14 instead of 4?Leuth said:Sparkling innings from Jos here, cementing his spot for the next 4 series3 -
Falls trying to be positive, 40 runs in a high-pressure situation against a rampant attack, top knock1
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Shannon Gabriel might be a great fast bowler, but his batting and fielding are sub-Tufnell0
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Sibley is like Steve Smith in that he looks all wrong, but it works
Indeed Sibley and Burns are possibly the wonkiest looking opening partnership England have had in decades BUT it's not all about aesthetics!1 -
Agreed, look like they've both been playing cricket for about 2 weeks. Sibley is boring but we can't moan, definitely need someone like him to go with the likes of Stokes and Pope to be successful.killerandflash said:Sibley is like Steve Smith in that he looks all wrong, but it works
Indeed Sibley and Burns are possibly the wonkiest looking opening partnership England have had in decades BUT it's not all about aesthetics!
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Sibley will always be solid and look to bat time but, not all of his hundreds will be at that pace. He can score quicker than that. He does have more shots, over time he will look to use more of his shots at this level. For now he has put some away for test cricket.
The important thing is he can do it at this level. We now have 2 openers with 2 test centuries in the last 18 months. That's a hell of a better place to be than we were a year or so ago.1 -
sibley has a role and he is doing it, at a good average too. He faced more balls in this one innings than burns did in an entire series last year. Cricket isn’t just about the flintoff, Pieterson, stokes (although more restrained these days) scoring at 4 an over. Sibley built an innings, batted time and tired the windies attack. It’s a shame that nobody else apart from stokes capitalised on this.0
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Stokes batting is at an extraordinary level at the moment, I'm struggling to think of too many players who can grind it out for a long period (i.e. not just for an hour) but also go into turbocharged "T20" mode as well. And then go back into Boycott mode if the situation requires2
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Turned over to the cricket at 4pm. Says "start delayed"
No shit sherlock !!!!
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Typical Manchester0
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Typical. Glorious sunshine down Here. Been on garden all day. Just getting out of hot tub to find no play today in the cricket0
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Day washed out.
Yesterdays slow play by England now making the game likely to be drawn.0 -
They’ve made it pretty realistic so far, they should bowl a few overs so they don’t have to give the punters all their money back.2
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No its because we've missed a day washed outgolfaddick said:Day washed out.
Yesterdays slow play by England now making the game likely to be drawn.2 -
To be realistic they'll need to have severely ratarsed spectators staggering out at 5pm, having spent 6 hours drinkingBig William said:They’ve made it pretty realistic so far, they should bowl a few overs so they don’t have to give the punters all their money back.
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So both tests have been effected by the weather. Did the ECB not foresee this? With no ticketing to worry about why didn't they just have two grounds in different regions prepare pitches and then 48 hours before the toss look at the weather forecast and pick the ground with the better weather outlook0
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Bess finally comes on and gets Joseph.0
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Because they were staying in hotels at the relevant grounds in a bubble (apart from Archer!) to reduce risks of Covid infectionsrandy andy said:So both tests have been effected by the weather. Did the ECB not foresee this? With no ticketing to worry about why didn't they just have two grounds in different regions prepare pitches and then 48 hours before the toss look at the weather forecast and pick the ground with the better weather outlook2 -
Do you think the ECB will ever do anything about these awful slow pitches?0
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And 48 hours isn't enough time to move hotels? There are many ways the ECB could avoid, or at least mitigate, losing day after day to the weather, but they're unable to think outside the box. Even when the world has changed, the ECB still do things the same way, purely because that's how its always been done.MrOneLung said:
Because they were staying in hotels at the relevant grounds in a bubble (apart from Archer!) to reduce risks of Covid infectionsrandy andy said:So both tests have been effected by the weather. Did the ECB not foresee this? With no ticketing to worry about why didn't they just have two grounds in different regions prepare pitches and then 48 hours before the toss look at the weather forecast and pick the ground with the better weather outlook
There's no reason they couldn't have had pitches prepared in Manachester and Nottingham or Edgbaston, and had the team hotel in the middle, less than 2 hours from all of the grounds0 -
You want three Test grounds to be prepared, staffed and have the full set of media, medical teams and private hospitals in place, trebling (possibly) the costs, so that, at some stage close to the start of the Test match a firm decision can be made based on the certainty as to which ground will have the fewest rain-delays? And for all players and media to remain inside a bio-secure bubble, two hours' drive from the ground.randy andy said:
And 48 hours isn't enough time to move hotels? There are many ways the ECB could avoid, or at least mitigate, losing day after day to the weather, but they're unable to think outside the box. Even when the world has changed, the ECB still do things the same way, purely because that's how its always been done.MrOneLung said:
Because they were staying in hotels at the relevant grounds in a bubble (apart from Archer!) to reduce risks of Covid infectionsrandy andy said:So both tests have been effected by the weather. Did the ECB not foresee this? With no ticketing to worry about why didn't they just have two grounds in different regions prepare pitches and then 48 hours before the toss look at the weather forecast and pick the ground with the better weather outlook
There's no reason they couldn't have had pitches prepared in Manachester and Nottingham or Edgbaston, and had the team hotel in the middle, less than 2 hours from all of the grounds
I think you place a lot more faith in the size of the ECB's coffers and the accuracy of the Met Office.0 -
They don't need all that stuff in place, 48 hours is enougb time to set up media, get medical teams in, etc. Test grounds have all the physical facilities in pace, there's minimal setup time needed.Chizz said:
You want three Test grounds to be prepared, staffed and have the full set of media, medical teams and private hospitals in place, trebling (possibly) the costs, so that, at some stage close to the start of the Test match a firm decision can be made based on the certainty as to which ground will have the fewest rain-delays? And for all players and media to remain inside a bio-secure bubble, two hours' drive from the ground.randy andy said:
And 48 hours isn't enough time to move hotels? There are many ways the ECB could avoid, or at least mitigate, losing day after day to the weather, but they're unable to think outside the box. Even when the world has changed, the ECB still do things the same way, purely because that's how its always been done.MrOneLung said:
Because they were staying in hotels at the relevant grounds in a bubble (apart from Archer!) to reduce risks of Covid infectionsrandy andy said:So both tests have been effected by the weather. Did the ECB not foresee this? With no ticketing to worry about why didn't they just have two grounds in different regions prepare pitches and then 48 hours before the toss look at the weather forecast and pick the ground with the better weather outlook
There's no reason they couldn't have had pitches prepared in Manachester and Nottingham or Edgbaston, and had the team hotel in the middle, less than 2 hours from all of the grounds
I think you place a lot more faith in the size of the ECB's coffers and the accuracy of the Met Office.
The additional costs would be minimal, and presumably there is a cost involved with each lost day. If there are significant additional costs then surely some of those would be born by the broadcaster who is, hopefully, getting a better product as a result.
There are no certainties, but there are ways to mitigate the chances of losing significant playing time. I'm sure, given time and resources, a better solution than my quick effort could be found, but there was clearly no interest in doing anything. We decide venues months in advance and that's it, we'll do what we've always done, no matter the cost or the result.0 -
Selfless innings of 0 from Jos, good team man2
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I think you're hugely underestimating the huge resources that have been required to put on the Tests in the current series.randy andy said:
They don't need all that stuff in place, 48 hours is enougb time to set up media, get medical teams in, etc. Test grounds have all the physical facilities in pace, there's minimal setup time needed.Chizz said:
You want three Test grounds to be prepared, staffed and have the full set of media, medical teams and private hospitals in place, trebling (possibly) the costs, so that, at some stage close to the start of the Test match a firm decision can be made based on the certainty as to which ground will have the fewest rain-delays? And for all players and media to remain inside a bio-secure bubble, two hours' drive from the ground.randy andy said:
And 48 hours isn't enough time to move hotels? There are many ways the ECB could avoid, or at least mitigate, losing day after day to the weather, but they're unable to think outside the box. Even when the world has changed, the ECB still do things the same way, purely because that's how its always been done.MrOneLung said:
Because they were staying in hotels at the relevant grounds in a bubble (apart from Archer!) to reduce risks of Covid infectionsrandy andy said:So both tests have been effected by the weather. Did the ECB not foresee this? With no ticketing to worry about why didn't they just have two grounds in different regions prepare pitches and then 48 hours before the toss look at the weather forecast and pick the ground with the better weather outlook
There's no reason they couldn't have had pitches prepared in Manachester and Nottingham or Edgbaston, and had the team hotel in the middle, less than 2 hours from all of the grounds
I think you place a lot more faith in the size of the ECB's coffers and the accuracy of the Met Office.
The additional costs would be minimal, and presumably there is a cost involved with each lost day. If there are significant additional costs then surely some of those would be born by the broadcaster who is, hopefully, getting a better product as a result.
There are no certainties, but there are ways to mitigate the chances of losing significant playing time. I'm sure, given time and resources, a better solution than my quick effort could be found, but there was clearly no interest in doing anything. We decide venues months in advance and that's it, we'll do what we've always done, no matter the cost or the result.
They do, of course, need "all that stuff" in place. Including on-site hotels (not available in two of the three grounds you mention), as well as the private, secure hospital facilities.
And, you're suggesting that the decision as to which ground would see the most play in a five-day Test would be made at least two days before it starts.
I don't think Notts CCC or Warwickshire CCC would be very keen to pay for their grounds to be medically sanitised on a one-in-three chance they might be used.2 -
Back to reality, from what was a game drifting to a dull draw, suddenly we're faced with a really exciting final day
England's efforts at slogging showed that it's not easy on this pitch to get another quick 50, so England have a really tricky decision to make as to the declaration. Yes the bowlers will want enough overs to get the second new ball, but too low a target and the Windies could chase it down.
Bess will be disappointed to only get 1 wicket. You do wonder if picking an off spinner when 10 of the Windies batsmen bat right handed was a good move.0 -
I think we need to have 2 cracks with a new ball, even if it only means 6 or 7 with the 2nd one.
Counting backwards, if there are 98 overs (min) tomorrow, and you lose 2 for a change of innings (stupid rule in my book, but hey ho), England should bat for no more than 10 overs tomorrow. Might only get another 50 or 60 runs but that would give us a lead of 270 /280. With 86 overs that means a run rate of over 3 an over. Let the Windies try to chase them down. Best way to win is to dangle the carrot.
But no, Joe will play it safe & consensus is that we will bat until gone 12, so we have a lead of 300+ & only have 70/75 overs at them.
Drawn game with Windies at 220 for 6 at close.
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