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Charlton Athletic v Swansea City | Wednesday 3 October | Post-Match Thread

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  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    I watched the game, but not focused enough to give marks but no one was worse than on Saturday.  2 points from those 2 games would be fair, 3 is very good.

    We won't go down, we won't get autos.  Could we get play offs? Maybe but I would still take 4th bottom and 4 points off them. 
  • Looked a bit toothless up front,  but we were playing a very good side. Really impressed with Swansea's workrate, they pressed us superbly 
  • Given how we play without Taylor we need to ensure we keep him for at least the rest of the season.
  • Garrymanilow
    Garrymanilow Posts: 13,158
    Oh well. Narrow loss against probably the second best team in the division. Not a disaster by any stretch. We will lose a good few games this season, we just need to pepper those losses with wins here and there and we'll be well clear of the relegation zone. And in the end, given our current funding that's all that matters.
  • I know Forster-Caskey come on but didn't notice him at all - watched on Sky
    He was playing LB, not midfield, so maybe not where you expected LL? 
  • Clem_Snide
    Clem_Snide Posts: 11,735
    I know Forster-Caskey come on but didn't notice him at all - watched on Sky
    He was playing LB, not midfield, so maybe not where you expected LL? 
    Think Field went to left back.
  • Weegie Addick
    Weegie Addick Posts: 16,511
    More than held our own first half but let down by poor defending of set piece and giving the ball away too cheaply at times. Lost our shape in second half. 

    But they are now top and we were nearly a match for them without our talisman so no complaints. 

    Long way back for JFC, mind you. Mathews looked useful but positioning sometimes wayward - not as solid as Solly.
  • cafcnick1992
    cafcnick1992 Posts: 7,412
    Hard fought win against Leeds, then playing a very good side on Wednesday night. Lads put a shift in and we can't ask for much more.

    Still a great season so far.
  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    I know Forster-Caskey come on but didn't notice him at all - watched on Sky
    He was playing LB, not midfield, so maybe not where you expected LL? 
    I watched on sky, didn't notice JFC do anything, at all, good or bad. 
  • Deserved a point tonight. For all their quick passing Swans were not as good as Leeds off the ball and their goals were due to errors on our part, not their brilliance.

    Well played Charlton, keep on going lads. 
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  • The_President
    The_President Posts: 14,280
    Not having a go, but it would be really interesting to have some stats for this season for our home games for shots on target towards The Covered End (usually the second half). Today all i recall is possibly 2 headers, one being easily saved by their goalie, that we might as well as headed from the half way line and the other which looped in from Lockyer and was off the line in the huffing and puffing towards the end
    TBH, i dont recall any from either Brentford or Leeds, obviously we had at least 2 from Stoke, and i didnt see the Brum game.
    I bet its not a pretty average.
  • Croydon
    Croydon Posts: 12,722
    I thought we were poor. Gave the ball away so many times in midfield, lost almost every 50/50 and looked completely devoid of ideas up top. We looked tired and hopefully that’s what it was.

    3 point return from Leeds and Swansea is great, let’s hopefully we can nick something at Fulham. 
  • Have we got enough in the tank left to get a result at Fulham?
  • ross1
    ross1 Posts: 50,974
    Who is going to play LB at Fulham?
  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,343
    I know Forster-Caskey come on but didn't notice him at all - watched on Sky
    You missed him put in a decent cross, make some crunching challenges and pass sideways a bit.
  • RedChaser
    RedChaser Posts: 19,885
    ross1 said:
    Who is going to play LB at Fulham?
    Dust your boots off ross1  ;)
  • Watched on the box and agree with most of what's been written so far. Can't recall their keeper making a save and we struggled to get bodies forwards in the second half. But they looked a good side and first half we more than matched them in all areas bar creating chances with Gallagher particularly prominent.
  • Oh well. Narrow loss against probably the second best team in the division. Not a disaster by any stretch. We will lose a good few games this season, we just need to pepper those losses with wins here and there and we'll be well clear of the relegation zone. And in the end, given given our current funding that's all that matters.
    This. Says all that needs to be said.

    Very impressed with Swansea. Will be near the top of the table without doubt. 
  • cafcpolo
    cafcpolo Posts: 3,811
    Not having a go, but it would be really interesting to have some stats for this season for our home games for shots on target towards The Covered End (usually the second half). Today all i recall is possibly 2 headers, one being easily saved by their goalie, that we might as well as headed from the half way line and the other which looped in from Lockyer and was off the line in the huffing and puffing towards the end
    TBH, i dont recall any from either Brentford or Leeds, obviously we had at least 2 from Stoke, and i didnt see the Brum game.
    I bet its not a pretty average.
    Not a related stat but interestingly the Sky commentator was saying that when we have the majority of possession we generally lose, and minority we win.
  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,343
    Some proper negativity.

    It's Swansea. They were better than us in terms of goals scored. That's about it. Another week, we'd have won it. 

    Their CB was fantastic. Pacey, strong, fearless. 

    Don't think we let ourselves down other than a poor defensive corner.
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  • carly burn
    carly burn Posts: 19,449
    Bonne looks well out of his depth. But we knew that.
  • RedChaser
    RedChaser Posts: 19,885
    edited October 2019
    If Purrington doesn't recover it'll be from defenders (and yes including Solly maybe with Mattherws switching sides) that never played tonight and or Field @ross1
  • I know Forster-Caskey come on but didn't notice him at all - watched on Sky
    He was playing LB, not midfield, so maybe not where you expected LL? 
    Think Field went to left back.
     Maybe 3-5-2, with Jake as wide left of the five when attacking and Field left of the 3 in the defence? 
  • orpingtonRED
    orpingtonRED Posts: 3,474
    ross1 said:
    Who is going to play LB at Fulham?

    Maybe Naby. Keep Pearce and Lockyer and if Solly is not fit enough I would start with Oshi
  • se9addick
    se9addick Posts: 32,029
    Bonne looks well out of his depth. But we knew that.
    Really? I don’t think he’s the finished article at this level (yet) but I don’t think he’s disgraced himself at this level in the past couple of games. 

    He wont start on Saturday, but I’m happy he’s around the squad. 
  • Davo55
    Davo55 Posts: 7,836
    We were very bright in the first half but ran out of steam and ideas in the second. Against a lesser team that might have been enough but Swansea were just that bit better than us and ultimately we can't complain too much about the result. In Roddon and Celina they have two players of good Premier league quality.

    For us, I thought Sam Field had an excellent game throughout. Matthews did pretty well although Celina was a tricky customer. Conor Gallagher had a strong first half but faded. The others were generally ok, but only ok, and that isn't enough against the better sides. We gave the ball away far too much, with Josh Cullen and Jon Leko particularly guilty.

    We all knew this was a tough sequence of games, with Leeds, Swansea and Fulham on the bounce. If we can take 4 points from those three fixtures we'll have done well. Just hope the management team can work their magic in the next couple of days to get some rest into those tired legs and some zip into the attack clearly missing Lyle Taylor. Bowyer's side will never lack fight and determination but we'll more than that to get a result at Fulham.
  • Pedro45
    Pedro45 Posts: 5,821
    Swansea were very good but we looked tired. Cullen was well below his best as was Gallagher. I am not faulting either for effort though. Up front we just lack class but we just need to muck through until Taylor is back. Happy to have 17 points in the bag already.
  • I would say each player was at ten percent less than they were against Leeds. That made a big difference. I have no worries about this team being able to hold their own for the season. What we are seeing is the effect of three games in a week, against three of the best teams in the league, and the need to rotate an inexperienced squad.

    It’s hard to criticise any player when they give their all. With a fully fit squad I would say that five of today’s starters would not be in the first 11. 

    Stil delighted with the first ten games; great start to the season.
  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,343
    Bonne looks well out of his depth. But we knew that.
    Only his second ever start at this level, personally thought his performance Saturday and today were quite alike... 

    Saturday we win and he is praised. We lose and he is slated.


  • LTKapal
    LTKapal Posts: 1,312
    How can we get promoted if we don't beat other top teams

    BOWYER OUT