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Charlton Athletic v Swansea City | Wednesday 3 October | Post-Match Thread

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  • We beat ourselves. We gave the ball away far too often.
  • wmcf123
    wmcf123 Posts: 5,824
    Bonne looks well out of his depth. But we knew that.
    Didn’t do anything wrong tonight . Better than Chuks
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,742
    edited October 2019
    We did well and honestly thought we could have nicked an equaliser in the end, but for some great last ditch defending.

    Best CB pairing in the league that we’ve faced. Swansea will be up there and there’s no shame in that defeat.

    Far too much negativity in here tonight.
  • Chippycafc
    Chippycafc Posts: 14,135
    Powder puff up front...Celina for them was shear class.  We rallied at the end but dont forget they have a stack of premiership money so should beat us....onwards and upwards still proud of what we have achieved so far....great finish from Leko...we should have had a penalty slso...
  • se9addick
    se9addick Posts: 32,029
    Powder puff up front...Celina for them was shear class.  We rallied at the end but dont forget they have a stack of premiership money so should beat us....onwards and upwards still proud of what we have achieved so far....great finish from Leko...we should have had a penalty slso...
    Yeah Celina looks like a really good player. 
  • orpingtonRED
    orpingtonRED Posts: 3,474
    Impressed by Swansea, but considering they were a prem team not long a go they should be challenging at the top with that team. Probably the poorest I've seen Josh Cullen play this season he seemed slow to react a few times and his usual accurate passing disappeared.
  • The_President
    The_President Posts: 14,280
    Dazzler21 said:
    Bonne looks well out of his depth. But we knew that.
    Only his second ever start at this level, personally thought his performance Saturday and today were quite alike... 

    Saturday we win and he is praised. We lose and he is slated.


    Its not a case of him being slated - he just looked a bit out of his depth tonight. He will get better in time but tonight the defenders had him in their pockets all game, he posed very little threat.
  • Could have scraped a draw but we created little and we miss Taylor. Short on quality but not effort.
  • Athletico Charlton
    Athletico Charlton Posts: 14,271
    edited October 2019
    Solly and Taylor were huge misses.  Matthews was turned way too easily on a number of occasions and we struggled up front.  Lads gave their all; Swansea were decent and deserved it just but would not have been unfair to get a draw.  Great start to the season, i expect us to tail off but that is to be expected with our budget.  The start gives us a great chance to stay up.

    anyone have a view about the 3x penalty incidents?  Aneke looked like he was bundled over and Gallagher was wrestled to the ground plus there was a handball shout if i remember that i did not see.
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  • swords_alive
    swords_alive Posts: 4,251
    Highlights on quest now
  • Dhanda might've scored a crucial goal for Swansea tonight...

    ... but how big is his Dhanda?  ;)
  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,343
    LTKapal said:
    How can we get promoted if we don't beat other top teams

    BOWYER OUT
    Same way as last season? The fun way 
  • Cafc43v3r said:
    I know Forster-Caskey come on but didn't notice him at all - watched on Sky
    He was playing LB, not midfield, so maybe not where you expected LL? 
    I watched on sky, didn't notice JFC do anything, at all, good or bad. 
    Was at the Valley.

    JFC did a fair bit of running off the ball and helped keep the shape. And he touched the ball a few times in the short period he was on, making no mistakes that I recall. He also attempted to put a cross in, but it was blocked. He also took a quick free kick that was intelligent, but the picky ref stopped because Ayew was not where the ref wanted him to be (not fair on Charlton that).

    I liked JFC before his injury. I remember that epic Pompey away day in April 2018 and he was particularly superb.  I hope he can gradually build back up after a difficult injury, in the same way Bowyer has managed the fragile, but brilliant Williams. I personally feel this needs patience from us fans. Today was a step forward for him. 
  • DoctorCharlton
    DoctorCharlton Posts: 2,463
    edited October 2019
    They were clearly the fitter team, constantly pressing right up to the end. 

    Great finish from Leko and a great start... Shame we couldn’t keep the tempo going. Most of our build up play and attacking movers were so slow, and easily readable. 

    Purrington pissed me off tonight, couldn’t string a pass for love or money, and Ayew run riot over him all game. Wing back really is our Achilles heel. Admittedly haven’t watched the highlights but from covered end, their first goal looked really slow.. and maybe Dillon was caught flat footed? 

    I did think Chuks was impressive when he came on, he was constantly moving around and won pretty much every flick on he faced.. I’d like to see him starting with Leko running in behind.
  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,343
    wmcf123 said:
    Bonne looks well out of his depth. But we knew that.
    Didn’t do anything wrong tonight . Better than Chuks
    Chuks came on to win flick ons. He won flick ons. Chuks also should have won a penalty. For me neither did badly
  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,343
    edited October 2019
    Dazzler21 said:
    Bonne looks well out of his depth. But we knew that.
    Only his second ever start at this level, personally thought his performance Saturday and today were quite alike... 

    Saturday we win and he is praised. We lose and he is slated.


    Its not a case of him being slated - he just looked a bit out of his depth tonight. He will get better in time but tonight the defenders had him in their pockets all game, he posed very little threat.
    Service was where? Strike partner was where?

    Alongside any other one of our forward options from the startand I'm certain he'd have looked fine.
  • paulie8290
    paulie8290 Posts: 23,344
    Everyone talking about how well Swansea are doing, watching The Debate now and they are saying how great they are doing considering who they lost they probably expected to be around mid table atm.

    Ayew is probably on more than our whole squad put together.

    They have alot of decent players and yes top atm is probably better than they expected but they should be top 6 no question
  • suzisausage
    suzisausage Posts: 11,502
    Feeling disappointed and a draw would have been fair. Didn’t have the finesse to push on and get back in the game. Played some great stuff at times. Leko holds the ball up well, crowd get excited and then he brings us back to reality by passing to an opposition player. Gallagher is awesome. Worked hard but Swansea were better. Ref lost it towards the end and their 23 was a ‘orrible cheat. Frustrating and I’m tired so taking the loss it quite badly as haven’t seen us lose for so long. 
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  • Leko
    bonne

    really poor I thought throughout, 

    swansea may not be as exciting as Leeds but Swansea are a better team 

    Saying that a deflection and 1 piece of woeful defending 

    we lost to the best team in league imo 


    Don’t get too excited with the wins or too down about the losses 

    we are 1 point better off tonight than if we had drawn both Leeds and Swansea which would prob be a fair result from both games 




  • jac52
    jac52 Posts: 636
    Don't think we did enough to win but having said that it's gutting that their winner came from a corner. Ayew and their left winger clearly too good for the championship. The fact that we are very much competing in this league is a miracle. Would still bite anyone's hand off to not get relegated.

    Thought Matthews was decent for his first game against a very good side. He won't have to face many players as good as their winger. His cross made the goal and he made an incredible challenge near the end in our area to stop a counter attack.

    Leko infuriating as ever. If he could just keep it simple and move the ball quicker and to a teammate he'd be some player.

    Not convinced by Bonne. He showed a flash of quality at the start to turn one of their defenders but was feeding off scraps for the rest of the game and didn't offer much to force his way in to the game. I'd like to see Aneke get a start.
  • se9addick
    se9addick Posts: 32,029
    Cafc43v3r said:
    I know Forster-Caskey come on but didn't notice him at all - watched on Sky
    He was playing LB, not midfield, so maybe not where you expected LL? 
    I watched on sky, didn't notice JFC do anything, at all, good or bad. 
    Was at the Valley.

    JFC did a fair bit of running off the ball and helped keep the shape. And he touched the ball a few times in the short period he was on, making no mistakes that I recall. He also attempted to put a cross in, but it was blocked. He also took a quick free kick that was intelligent, but the picky ref stopped because Ayew was not where the ref wanted him to be (not fair on Charlton that).

    I liked JFC before his injury. I remember that epic Pompey away day in April 2018 and he was particularly superb.  I hope he can gradually build back up after a difficult injury, in the same way Bowyer has managed the fragile, but brilliant Williams. I personally feel this needs patience from us fans. Today was a step forward for him. 
    April 2018 was a long time ago. Hope he can get back.
  • Rob
    Rob Posts: 11,765
    Swansea were a good team. Hard pressed us the whole game and wore us down in the second half. I thought we looked good in the first half. Matthews had a good half but they seemed to be targeting him in the 2nd and he faded badly. Gallagher gave 100% as always. Good goal from Leko but I thought at the time it might have come too early. 

    But, Swansea were a good team - better than Leeds I thought. Maybe Bows was actually out coached in the 2nd half as we seemed to lose our way a bit. Certainly didn't have that cutting edge up front and, whichever way you slice it, we do miss Taylor.

    Ayew and Celina I thought looked good for them. 

    Oh well, onwards and upwards. Still punching above our weight. The Championship is a very tough league.
  • Stig
    Stig Posts: 29,015
    Missed the first half hour, but on what I did see I'd say it was a fair result. Defended well, but didn't create much. Missing Taylor.

    What did everyone think of their disallowed goal in the second half.  From the angle on tv, I reckon they were robbed.
  • Dazzler21 said:
    Bonne looks well out of his depth. But we knew that.
    Only his second ever start at this level, personally thought his performance Saturday and today were quite alike... 

    Saturday we win and he is praised. We lose and he is slated.


    The team performances weren't that different in both games either really, especially up front where in both games we struggled to keep possession and create decent openings. 
  • charltonnick
    charltonnick Posts: 3,063
    No complaints , the best team won
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,198
    edited October 2019
    Deserved win for the best team we've played this season.

    Pressed us everywhere out of possession and moved the ball weLl in possession.

    No shame in that defeat. We worked hard as usual but neither No.10 (Ozzie or Johnny) could get a grip on the game.

    Hard work, organisation and guts gets you so far but we lacked that little bit more. Had a go at the end but couldn't fashion another clear chance after our early go.

    I thought we missed Solly, Pratley and of course Taylor but even with them not sure we would have won. We lived with them but were 2nd best.

    Still, ten games in, we're 8th, hard to beat and with players to come in.

    Odd fact of the day.

    The back line wore the "right" numbers: 1, 2, 3, 5 & 6
  • Was struggling to work out our formation, even before Purrington went off as Field seemed to be playing as a left CB (in a 3) for much of the time with Purrington much further forward, indeed he had a lot of the ball in attacking positions (to little effect really).

  • McCauley Bonne is just another Chris dickson, the gamble on him performing in the championship has backfired.