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Squad List - 30th May
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Bring back the flags!LenGlover said:
Perhaps Karel Fraye prefers Fosu....Covered End said:Strange Fosu but not Williams.
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He was injured for the semi-final.EveshamAddick said:Bowyer didn’t think Reeves had it , consequently he didn’t play in the play offs and that’s your lot.
Think we'll regret that. Think he would be a good squad player. I imagine he was on decent wages given he signed on a free. But I think he's a very decent player, the likes of which are hard to come by.2 -
But we paid Reading a development fee for him, does that mean we can still get one? Is two years at a club enough to qualify for one? I genuinely can't remember.Henry Irving said:
No, we get a development fee by offering the deal.MuttleyCAFC said:I doubt Fosu would sign a contract so that we can get a fee. So that can't be a reason for offering one. Something else has happened here. It makes you think he will probably sign it!0 -
Pleased for Odoh. Hope he gets his chance.1
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I'm happy to get shot of them to be honest. Reeves, Wiliams & Igor aren't capable of playing more than 3 games without getting injured.1
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Unless we have new owners in place by the end of June we will have a weaker squad starting the Championship than we had finishing League 1.
We just can't replace Cullen and Bielik.
Does anyone on CL really believe Joe Aribo will stay, as he will get an offer from a Southampton or even the Bundesliga.
BFG will be 50/50 as he was on a championship wage anyway.
JFC will sign because he has hardly played this season because of his ACL injury.
Fosu is a strange situation but it's already been explained why he's been offered a deal.
Lewis Page is the new Rhoys Wiggins and can't see why we can't match Rotherham's wages for Ben Purrington.
We need two new strikers of championship standard, they don't come cheap.
Lee, JJ and SG need to be sorted this week.2 -
I agree with everything you say above @soapboxsamsoapboxsam said:Unless we have new owners in place by the end of June we will have a weaker squad starting the Championship than we had finishing League 1.
We just can't replace Cullen and Bielik.
Does anyone on CL really believe Joe Aribo will stay, as he will get an offer from a Southampton or even the Bundesliga.
BFG will be 50/50 as he was on a championship wage anyway.
JFC will sign because he has hardly played this season because of his ACL injury.
Fosu is a strange situation but it's already been explained why he's been offered a deal.
Lewis Page is the new Rhoys Wiggins and can't see why we can't match Rotherham's wages for Ben Purrington.
We need two new strikers of championship standard, they don't come cheap.
Lee, JJ and SG need to be sorted this week.
The only thing that matters now is that RD sells the club and it’s got to be sooner rather than later.
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Spot on @JessieAddickJessieAddick said:Bowyer's own contract is still not sorted which I think will negatively affect these players' willingness to stay.
When Curbs decided to leave he still had one year left on his contract yet Murray didn't want him to see it out and Murray's reason (according to Curbs) was that they wouldn't be able to sign players who knew the manager would be leaving in a year's time. It doesn't seem a problem at all now? I reckon if asked about his own future by the players Bowyer would say he would stay but that certainly wouldn't be 100% guaranteed? It's nice that the club has offered these four players new contracts but we must sign Bowyer up ASAP - he probably has been offered a new deal too. I just wonder how is he going to persuade Aribo or Bauer to stay when he himself isn't certain to stay?
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A bit harsh on Williams........but agree with the other 2Covered End said:I'm happy to get shot of them to be honest. Reeves, Wiliams & Igor aren't capable of playing more than 3 games without getting injured.
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I wonder if Williams played 3 full consecutive games for us?golfaddick said:
A bit harsh on Williams........but agree with the other 2Covered End said:I'm happy to get shot of them to be honest. Reeves, Wiliams & Igor aren't capable of playing more than 3 games without getting injured.
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soapboxsam said:Unless we have new owners in place by the end of June we will have a weaker squad starting the Championship than we had finishing League 1.
We just can't replace Cullen and Bielik.
Does anyone on CL really believe Joe Aribo will stay, as he will get an offer from a Southampton or even the Bundesliga.
BFG will be 50/50 as he was on a championship wage anyway.
JFC will sign because he has hardly played this season because of his ACL injury.
Fosu is a strange situation but it's already been explained why he's been offered a deal.
Lewis Page is the new Rhoys Wiggins and can't see why we can't match Rotherham's wages for Ben Purrington.
We need two new strikers of championship standard, they don't come cheap.
Lee, JJ and SG need to be sorted this week
Well, seeing as Purrington has another year left at Rotherham I feel it will be more than matching his wages.....like actually meeting a figure that they will want for him.0 -
10 players and at least four of them with a history of injury or simply not good enough to hold down a place in a Championship team namely Solly, Page, Pratley and Foster-Caskey0
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Do you know this for a fact, Ben? I thought they had to have been with us before the age of 18.Henry Irving said:
No, we get a development fee by offering the deal.MuttleyCAFC said:I doubt Fosu would sign a contract so that we can get a fee. So that can't be a reason for offering one. Something else has happened here. It makes you think he will probably sign it!0 -
wmcf123 said:
Do you know this for a fact, Ben? I thought they had to have been with us before the age of 18.Henry Irving said:
No, we get a development fee by offering the deal.MuttleyCAFC said:I doubt Fosu would sign a contract so that we can get a fee. So that can't be a reason for offering one. Something else has happened here. It makes you think he will probably sign it!
According to the SLP we do.
Seems odd to risk him saying "yes" to get a small fee but this is Roland logic
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It worked with Harriott a few years ago, and the other way with Fosu.Henry Irving said:wmcf123 said:
Do you know this for a fact, Ben? I thought they had to have been with us before the age of 18.Henry Irving said:
No, we get a development fee by offering the deal.MuttleyCAFC said:I doubt Fosu would sign a contract so that we can get a fee. So that can't be a reason for offering one. Something else has happened here. It makes you think he will probably sign it!
According to the SLP we do.
Seems odd to risk him saying "yes" to get a small fee but this is Roland logic
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this as much as they are greatCovered End said:I'm happy to get shot of them to be honest. Reeves, Wiliams & Igor aren't capable of playing more than 3 games without getting injured.
williams - you cannot get 90 mins out of and cannot have your highest paid player coming on as a sub every now and then. palace were paying some of his wages and we was topping up the rest, the decision will be his although its likely to be a massive pay cut - so cannot see him staying
reeves - very good at times again injured a lot
igor - same as above
next season i already feel will be a survival/mid table mission its one thing this season when you are winning week in week out, but what we do not need is passengers that are constantly in the treatment room, 3 maybe slightly older experienced players in on loans or frees ( which there is a lot of qaulity out there ) would see us better suited imo0 -
Perhaps it's a moderate contract and if he signs he could yet be a useful squad member.Henry Irving said:wmcf123 said:
Do you know this for a fact, Ben? I thought they had to have been with us before the age of 18.Henry Irving said:
No, we get a development fee by offering the deal.MuttleyCAFC said:I doubt Fosu would sign a contract so that we can get a fee. So that can't be a reason for offering one. Something else has happened here. It makes you think he will probably sign it!
According to the SLP we do.
Seems odd to risk him saying "yes" to get a small fee but this is Roland logic
Or perhaps they know that say Oxford are mad keen on him and are willing to pay a fee.2 -
Need to more than match Purrington's wages, as he has another year left on his Rotherham contract.soapboxsam said:Unless we have new owners in place by the end of June we will have a weaker squad starting the Championship than we had finishing League 1.
We just can't replace Cullen and Bielik.
Does anyone on CL really believe Joe Aribo will stay, as he will get an offer from a Southampton or even the Bundesliga.
BFG will be 50/50 as he was on a championship wage anyway.
JFC will sign because he has hardly played this season because of his ACL injury.
Fosu is a strange situation but it's already been explained why he's been offered a deal.
Lewis Page is the new Rhoys Wiggins and can't see why we can't match Rotherham's wages for Ben Purrington.
We need two new strikers of championship standard, they don't come cheap.
Lee, JJ and SG need to be sorted this week.0 -
You and Golfie are correct about a transfer fee But if we can't or won't pay a modest fee for a League 1 full back then we will emulate Rotherham by not only being promoted after two playoffs in a row but relegation if we end up with a weaker team in the Championship than we finished in League 1.Ferryman said:
Need to more than match Purrington's wages, as he has another year left on his Rotherham contract.soapboxsam said:Unless we have new owners in place by the end of June we will have a weaker squad starting the Championship than we had finishing League 1.
We just can't replace Cullen and Bielik.
Does anyone on CL really believe Joe Aribo will stay, as he will get an offer from a Southampton or even the Bundesliga.
BFG will be 50/50 as he was on a championship wage anyway.
JFC will sign because he has hardly played this season because of his ACL injury.
Fosu is a strange situation but it's already been explained why he's been offered a deal.
Lewis Page is the new Rhoys Wiggins and can't see why we can't match Rotherham's wages for Ben Purrington.
We need two new strikers of championship standard, they don't come cheap.
Lee, JJ and SG need to be sorted this week.
When the unlucky Lewis Page gets his next injury in September, the thought of Solly playing LB in the higher division is scary.
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Denzel Washington is worth a place on the bench.blackpool72 said:
So is DensilFerryman said:I thought Reeves would be ok as a squad player, but probably prefers first team at Oxford.
Connor Washington is available.
If we're a goal down he's a guaranteed Equaliser.
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Why?soapboxsam said:Unless we have new owners in place by the end of June we will have a weaker squad starting the Championship than we had finishing League 1.
We just can't replace Cullen and Bielik.
Does anyone on CL really believe Joe Aribo will stay, as he will get an offer from a Southampton or even the Bundesliga.
BFG will be 50/50 as he was on a championship wage anyway.
JFC will sign because he has hardly played this season because of his ACL injury.
Fosu is a strange situation but it's already been explained why he's been offered a deal.
Lewis Page is the new Rhoys Wiggins and can't see why we can't match Rotherham's wages for Ben Purrington.
We need two new strikers of championship standard, they don't come cheap.
Lee, JJ and SG need to be sorted this week.
As a Championship side, we should be able to attract decent loan players, especially with how we developed Cullen and Bielik last season. Indeed our 5 loan players will be key to our season like most Championship sides, both Villa and Derby had 3 loan players each in their starting 11s on Monday
The important thing is that they are more Coquelin than Frimpong!
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I would imagine it won't take Bowyer long to get on the blower to Arsenal asking if they have any other talents they want us to hone!2
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Will be reliant on loans next season.0
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Fair enough- I’d trust Cawley’s research .Henry Irving said:wmcf123 said:
Do you know this for a fact, Ben? I thought they had to have been with us before the age of 18.Henry Irving said:
No, we get a development fee by offering the deal.MuttleyCAFC said:I doubt Fosu would sign a contract so that we can get a fee. So that can't be a reason for offering one. Something else has happened here. It makes you think he will probably sign it!
According to the SLP we do.
Seems odd to risk him saying "yes" to get a small fee but this is Roland logicwmcf123 said:
Do you know this for a fact, Ben? I thought they had to have been with us before the age of 18.Henry Irving said:
No, we get a development fee by offering the deal.MuttleyCAFC said:I doubt Fosu would sign a contract so that we can get a fee. So that can't be a reason for offering one. Something else has happened here. It makes you think he will probably sign it!
I like Fosu and I think LB can improve him0 -
The fact that when Bowyer took over as manager, Fosu was our main player and now just over a year later he couldn't make the 18 man squad informs me that Lee doesn't believe he can improve him or even get him to play at the standard of 18 months ago.wmcf123 said:
Fair enough- I’d trust Cawley’s research .Henry Irving said:wmcf123 said:
Do you know this for a fact, Ben? I thought they had to have been with us before the age of 18.Henry Irving said:
No, we get a development fee by offering the deal.MuttleyCAFC said:I doubt Fosu would sign a contract so that we can get a fee. So that can't be a reason for offering one. Something else has happened here. It makes you think he will probably sign it!
According to the SLP we do.
Seems odd to risk him saying "yes" to get a small fee but this is Roland logicwmcf123 said:
Do you know this for a fact, Ben? I thought they had to have been with us before the age of 18.Henry Irving said:
No, we get a development fee by offering the deal.MuttleyCAFC said:I doubt Fosu would sign a contract so that we can get a fee. So that can't be a reason for offering one. Something else has happened here. It makes you think he will probably sign it!
I like Fosu and I think LB can improve him1 -
Fosu didn't make the 18 man squad, not because he wasn't good enough, but because he wouldn't play the way Bowyer wanted him to.
A player at Bowyer's Charlton has to give 100% in matches ..... and 100% in training, plus the right attitude.
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Regarding Development fees: As long as the player is 23 or under and the club offers a contract that matches or betters the deal they had the prior season, and it is offered in writing roughly 50 working days before the end of the season (I'm not sure on this time frame to be honest but I know there is a deadline and it has to be in writing) then Charlton will be enetiled to a development fee if he signs for another club.The amount will depend on where he ends up, and prior clubs will be entitled to a portion of the total.8
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You wouldn't have thought the fee would be very much though. I assume when we signed him from Reading, this was also for a development fee.el-pietro said:Regarding Development fees: As long as the player is 23 or under and the club offers a contract that matches or betters the deal they had the prior season, and it is offered in writing roughly 50 working days before the end of the season (I'm not sure on this time frame to be honest but I know there is a deadline and it has to be in writing) then Charlton will be enetiled to a development fee if he signs for another club.The amount will depend on where he ends up, and prior clubs will be entitled to a portion of the total.0 -
Looking back on four promotions from the third tier (1975,1981, 2012, 2019) this is the only one where I've felt that rather than some reasonable incremental improvements in the squad, it might all collapse into disaster very quickly.
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