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The influence of the EU on Britain.
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I can't speak for the honourable member for Kent but I believe he may have be indulging in some sarcasm to point of the folly of those who try to pretend that Corbyn is present but not participating in this debate. : - )stonemuse said:
Those tweets are totally relevant ... try reading them.kentaddick said:
stop stop STOP posting about corbyn, it has NOTHING to do with brexit, absolutely nothing. Nada. Nothing. NOTHING.stonemuse said:0 -
I don't think it will pass either, I also think it would be the wrong time to call one if there was one.se9addick said:I don’t think a no confidence vote will pass - it would take us closer to a general election which means Tories potentially losing their seats so I can’t see that being a starter and, honestly, it just feels like another distraction that we don’t have time for.
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Boris visibly hiding at the back. No worries Boris, you crack on, not like you've played a major role in this f*ck up.8
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The phrase 'visibly hiding' just about sums up Boris and his level of competency.The Red Robin said:Boris visibly hiding at the back. No worries Boris, you crack on, not like you've played a major role in this f*ck up.
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labour MP offers support to stay in the EU, corbyn slinks in his chair.1
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The Red Robin said:
Boris visibly hiding at the back. No worries Boris, you crack on, not like you've played a major role in this f*ck up.
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Man this is brutal for May, taking shots from all sides with hardly, if any support from her own benches.4
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Ahhhhh ... whooshedHenry Irving said:
I can't speak for the honourable member for Kent but I believe he may have be indulging in some sarcasm to point of the folly of those who try to pretend that Corbyn is present but not participating in this debate. : - )stonemuse said:
Those tweets are totally relevant ... try reading them.kentaddick said:
stop stop STOP posting about corbyn, it has NOTHING to do with brexit, absolutely nothing. Nada. Nothing. NOTHING.stonemuse said:
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I'd almost feel sorry for her if she wasn't such an utter disgrace.Addickted4life said:Man this is brutal for May, taking shots from all sides with hardly, if any support from her own benches.
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Is there anything worse than feeling sorry for a Prime Minister?Rizzo said:
I'd almost feel sorry for her if she wasn't such an utter disgrace.Addickted4life said:Man this is brutal for May, taking shots from all sides with hardly, if any support from her own benches.
It's happening now to May. It happened to Brown and Major, both of whom would be preferable to what we have now and what that might be replaced by.
What an awful position we are in.10 -
She is getting all she deserves. I cannot imagine there has ever been a worse PM and the history books will quite rightly not be kind to her.Rizzo said:
I'd almost feel sorry for her if she wasn't such an utter disgrace.Addickted4life said:Man this is brutal for May, taking shots from all sides with hardly, if any support from her own benches.
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Worst.... Prime.... Minister.... Ever....6
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I wonder how much abuse (red tory/blairite/centralist/traitor/threats of deselection) that MP will get on twitter tonight.kentaddick said:labour MP offers support to stay in the EU, corbyn slinks in his chair.
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Bear in mind this is a mess of her own making.
There are large sections of the House that would either vote to Remain/have a second referendum, or would be in favour of a Brexit outlined by the Leave campaign (which campaigned for a Norway/Swiss deal, staying in the EEA or similar). There is also a small but fervent group of loonies who would take a no deal Brexit.
Instead she has gone about this in the worst possible way: triggering Article 50 before having any kind of plan, calling a totally unnecessary General Election, spending 2 years doing sweet FA, then trying to force through a deal that no one in the House would support.10 -
Is there any estimation on what Brexit has cost the UK so far? Might have been able to put someone on the moon for it.2
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has she said when she will actually put her 'Deal' forward to the house?
and has she answered the question on how she is going to re negotiate when Brussels said they have finished negotiating.1 -
She had a very difficult task with Brexit where there is almost no solution that a majority would back. It was a poison chalice.bobmunro said:
She is getting all she deserves. I cannot imagine there has ever been a worse PM and the history books will quite rightly not be kind to her.Rizzo said:
I'd almost feel sorry for her if she wasn't such an utter disgrace.Addickted4life said:Man this is brutal for May, taking shots from all sides with hardly, if any support from her own benches.
But she took the job and has made a bad situation worse with her red lines, triggering A50 before she had any plan (aided and abetted by Corbyn on that) and threw away her majority in an unnecessary General Election.1 -
You do have to admire that you will blame Corbyn for anything.Henry Irving said:
She had a very difficult task with Brexit where there is almost no solution that a majority would back. It was a poison chalice.bobmunro said:
She is getting all she deserves. I cannot imagine there has ever been a worse PM and the history books will quite rightly not be kind to her.Rizzo said:
I'd almost feel sorry for her if she wasn't such an utter disgrace.Addickted4life said:Man this is brutal for May, taking shots from all sides with hardly, if any support from her own benches.
But she took the job and has made a bad situation worse with her red lines, triggering A50 before she had any plan (aided and abetted by Corbyn on that) and threw away her majority in an unnecessary General Election.5 - Sponsored links:
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Why didn't she simply say to the hard-line Brexiters "vote for this deal, or I will call a second referendum"? Their bluff would have been called. If she failed to win the vote (probably) she could hold her head up and say to the Brexiters you voted for it, by voting down the deal. And then take final instruction from the people.1
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I can't imagine how this government expect to attract people to invest in the UK with this level of incompetence and division. No matter how unhappy Leavers were with whatever it was they didn't like before, surely the pathetic scenes now are a far worse image of the country. It's incredibly hard to really see what the point of all this is apart from as a cautionary tale on the perils of believing what politicians promise.7
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Please explain Corbyn s contribution to the last 30 minutes of this debate.The Red Robin said:
You do have to admire that you will blame Corbyn for anything.Henry Irving said:
She had a very difficult task with Brexit where there is almost no solution that a majority would back. It was a poison chalice.bobmunro said:
She is getting all she deserves. I cannot imagine there has ever been a worse PM and the history books will quite rightly not be kind to her.Rizzo said:
I'd almost feel sorry for her if she wasn't such an utter disgrace.Addickted4life said:Man this is brutal for May, taking shots from all sides with hardly, if any support from her own benches.
But she took the job and has made a bad situation worse with her red lines, triggering A50 before she had any plan (aided and abetted by Corbyn on that) and threw away her majority in an unnecessary General Election.0 -
He was a team-mate of Shay Given wasn't he?The Red Robin said:5 -
No, you're right, Brexit is all his fault.blackpool72 said:
Please explain Corbyn s contribution to the last 30 minutes of this debate.The Red Robin said:
You do have to admire that you will blame Corbyn for anything.Henry Irving said:
She had a very difficult task with Brexit where there is almost no solution that a majority would back. It was a poison chalice.bobmunro said:
She is getting all she deserves. I cannot imagine there has ever been a worse PM and the history books will quite rightly not be kind to her.Rizzo said:
I'd almost feel sorry for her if she wasn't such an utter disgrace.Addickted4life said:Man this is brutal for May, taking shots from all sides with hardly, if any support from her own benches.
But she took the job and has made a bad situation worse with her red lines, triggering A50 before she had any plan (aided and abetted by Corbyn on that) and threw away her majority in an unnecessary General Election.0 -
The real issue is that she has had three weeks to provide re-assurances. It isn't as if they have only discovered the issues with her deal today! It is incredible after three weeks of debate that she is kicking the can down the road, but predictable given the history of this government.1
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I never said it was his fault.The Red Robin said:
No, you're right, Brexit is all his fault.blackpool72 said:
Please explain Corbyn s contribution to the last 30 minutes of this debate.The Red Robin said:
You do have to admire that you will blame Corbyn for anything.Henry Irving said:
She had a very difficult task with Brexit where there is almost no solution that a majority would back. It was a poison chalice.bobmunro said:
She is getting all she deserves. I cannot imagine there has ever been a worse PM and the history books will quite rightly not be kind to her.Rizzo said:
I'd almost feel sorry for her if she wasn't such an utter disgrace.Addickted4life said:Man this is brutal for May, taking shots from all sides with hardly, if any support from her own benches.
But she took the job and has made a bad situation worse with her red lines, triggering A50 before she had any plan (aided and abetted by Corbyn on that) and threw away her majority in an unnecessary General Election.
I asked you a question if you can't answer it then fair enough.0 -
At twenty past eleven this morning, Number 10 was briefing political journalists that the vote was "100%" going ahead tomorrow. Ten minutes later she had a call with the Cabinet, postponing it.MuttleyCAFC said:The real issue is that she has had three weeks to provide re-assurances. It isn't as if they have only discovered the issues with her deal today! It is incredible after three weeks of debate that she is kicking the can down the road, but predictable given the history of this government.
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I just blamed May and but pointed out that Corybyn called for triggering A50 straightaway and IIRC wiped his MPs to vote for it. But you focused on Corbyn and ignored what I said about May. Have to admire that distortion of what I said.The Red Robin said:
You do have to admire that you will blame Corbyn for anything.Henry Irving said:
She had a very difficult task with Brexit where there is almost no solution that a majority would back. It was a poison chalice.bobmunro said:
She is getting all she deserves. I cannot imagine there has ever been a worse PM and the history books will quite rightly not be kind to her.Rizzo said:
I'd almost feel sorry for her if she wasn't such an utter disgrace.Addickted4life said:Man this is brutal for May, taking shots from all sides with hardly, if any support from her own benches.
But she took the job and has made a bad situation worse with her red lines, triggering A50 before she had any plan (aided and abetted by Corbyn on that) and threw away her majority in an unnecessary General Election.0
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