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The Takeover Thread - Duchatelet Finally Sells (Jan 2020)

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  • i_b_b_o_r_g
    i_b_b_o_r_g Posts: 18,948

    _MrDick said:

    Taxi_Lad said:

    I have no inside info but my guess is that the Aussies are holding up the deal and who can blame them. RD must want rid, he’s losing money month by month and will struggle to get another offer anywhere near this one. The Aussies hold all the aces IMO
    As for the delay causing the Aussies grief, I believe @JamesSeed previously mentioned that GM told him that they weren’t bothered as they are in for the long haul

    If they hold all the aces then they are playing a very bad hand imo. Season starts in 5 days time & transfer window shuts in 10 days time. Roland is selling players for peanuts & as it stands our front line on Saturday will be a player loaned out last season & the other a youngster who hasn't scored a league goal in his career. If they are playing "the long game" then someone had better tell them that it has taken us 3 years (and counting) to get out of this league.......it will take a damn sight longer than 5 to even get into the Championship from league 2.

    As I said last week, I don't who is worse.......Roland or the Aussies.
    Well, let me help. One has fucked up the club for four years and the others bought a scarf in the shop.
    @Airman Brown You’ve been pretty quiet over the last few weeks. I’m pretty sure you’ve heard things that are going on in the background. Any chance you can chuck us a bone to chew on until the next instalment if this saga?
    Nothing to add on the Aussies but there is new interest from elsewhere.
    No idea who this new interest is from but I've decided they are worse than Duchatelet.

    They must have known the club is for sale for ages but have only just shown interest so not really committed.

    They have not proved they have got any money either so most likely haven't got any.

    New unknown owners out.
    Leaving sarcasm aside - why do you think it's so strange that people are asking questions or doubting the Aussies, considering how bad the last 2 sets of owners have been?
  • JamesSeed
    JamesSeed Posts: 17,380

    Well they don't exist,it's just a "group" of people ---numbers unknown--- wealth unknown--- --- all I know is one who may or may not be an investor phones up a guy on here with various "chill out it's all cool" or some such bollox and some Aussie guy wears a Charlton scarf to a game ------- that's it

    Great post, sums it up for me.
    Yeah, absolute work of genius ;-)
  • cafcwill
    cafcwill Posts: 1,287

    _MrDick said:

    Taxi_Lad said:

    I have no inside info but my guess is that the Aussies are holding up the deal and who can blame them. RD must want rid, he’s losing money month by month and will struggle to get another offer anywhere near this one. The Aussies hold all the aces IMO
    As for the delay causing the Aussies grief, I believe @JamesSeed previously mentioned that GM told him that they weren’t bothered as they are in for the long haul

    If they hold all the aces then they are playing a very bad hand imo. Season starts in 5 days time & transfer window shuts in 10 days time. Roland is selling players for peanuts & as it stands our front line on Saturday will be a player loaned out last season & the other a youngster who hasn't scored a league goal in his career. If they are playing "the long game" then someone had better tell them that it has taken us 3 years (and counting) to get out of this league.......it will take a damn sight longer than 5 to even get into the Championship from league 2.

    As I said last week, I don't who is worse.......Roland or the Aussies.
    Well, let me help. One has fucked up the club for four years and the others bought a scarf in the shop.
    @Airman Brown You’ve been pretty quiet over the last few weeks. I’m pretty sure you’ve heard things that are going on in the background. Any chance you can chuck us a bone to chew on until the next instalment if this saga?
    Nothing to add on the Aussies but there is new interest from elsewhere.
    This new party Stinks of Murray
  • LargeAddick
    LargeAddick Posts: 32,569

    _MrDick said:

    Taxi_Lad said:

    I have no inside info but my guess is that the Aussies are holding up the deal and who can blame them. RD must want rid, he’s losing money month by month and will struggle to get another offer anywhere near this one. The Aussies hold all the aces IMO
    As for the delay causing the Aussies grief, I believe @JamesSeed previously mentioned that GM told him that they weren’t bothered as they are in for the long haul

    If they hold all the aces then they are playing a very bad hand imo. Season starts in 5 days time & transfer window shuts in 10 days time. Roland is selling players for peanuts & as it stands our front line on Saturday will be a player loaned out last season & the other a youngster who hasn't scored a league goal in his career. If they are playing "the long game" then someone had better tell them that it has taken us 3 years (and counting) to get out of this league.......it will take a damn sight longer than 5 to even get into the Championship from league 2.

    As I said last week, I don't who is worse.......Roland or the Aussies.
    Well, let me help. One has fucked up the club for four years and the others bought a scarf in the shop.
    @Airman Brown You’ve been pretty quiet over the last few weeks. I’m pretty sure you’ve heard things that are going on in the background. Any chance you can chuck us a bone to chew on until the next instalment if this saga?
    Nothing to add on the Aussies but there is new interest from elsewhere.
    so unless the Aussies complete in the next week, even if RD now allows them to, this could drag on for a long while yet

  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,228

    _MrDick said:

    Taxi_Lad said:

    I have no inside info but my guess is that the Aussies are holding up the deal and who can blame them. RD must want rid, he’s losing money month by month and will struggle to get another offer anywhere near this one. The Aussies hold all the aces IMO
    As for the delay causing the Aussies grief, I believe @JamesSeed previously mentioned that GM told him that they weren’t bothered as they are in for the long haul

    If they hold all the aces then they are playing a very bad hand imo. Season starts in 5 days time & transfer window shuts in 10 days time. Roland is selling players for peanuts & as it stands our front line on Saturday will be a player loaned out last season & the other a youngster who hasn't scored a league goal in his career. If they are playing "the long game" then someone had better tell them that it has taken us 3 years (and counting) to get out of this league.......it will take a damn sight longer than 5 to even get into the Championship from league 2.

    As I said last week, I don't who is worse.......Roland or the Aussies.
    Well, let me help. One has fucked up the club for four years and the others bought a scarf in the shop.
    @Airman Brown You’ve been pretty quiet over the last few weeks. I’m pretty sure you’ve heard things that are going on in the background. Any chance you can chuck us a bone to chew on until the next instalment if this saga?
    Nothing to add on the Aussies but there is new interest from elsewhere.
    so unless the Aussies complete in the next week, even if RD now allows them to, this could drag on for a long while yet

    If Roland allows them to.

    If Duchatelet thinks either group will pay him more than the Aussies he'll hang around longer in the hope of a few million extra. Two birds in the bush worth more than the bird in hand with him and has been for over a year.
  • JamesSeed
    JamesSeed Posts: 17,380
    This group has probably been around for some time, but might have been freshened up with a new backer. I agree that that could well be why the Aussies haven't completed- because Duchatelet is hoping for a higher bid. Absolute disgrace if true, and whoever is behind it should hang their head in shame.
  • ShootersHillGuru
    ShootersHillGuru Posts: 50,625
    JamesSeed said:

    This group has probably been around for some time, but might have been freshened up with a new backer. I agree that that could well be why the Aussies haven't completed- because Duchatelet is hoping for a higher bid. Absolute disgrace if true, and whoever is behind it should hang their head in shame.

    So are you saying it definitely is Duchatelet that’s the delay ?

  • i_b_b_o_r_g
    i_b_b_o_r_g Posts: 18,948

    JamesSeed said:

    This group has probably been around for some time, but might have been freshened up with a new backer. I agree that that could well be why the Aussies haven't completed- because Duchatelet is hoping for a higher bid. Absolute disgrace if true, and whoever is behind it should hang their head in shame.

    So are you saying it definitely is Duchatelet that’s the delay ?

    No one knows, it's all supposition
  • Macronate
    Macronate Posts: 12,893

    _MrDick said:

    Taxi_Lad said:

    I have no inside info but my guess is that the Aussies are holding up the deal and who can blame them. RD must want rid, he’s losing money month by month and will struggle to get another offer anywhere near this one. The Aussies hold all the aces IMO
    As for the delay causing the Aussies grief, I believe @JamesSeed previously mentioned that GM told him that they weren’t bothered as they are in for the long haul

    If they hold all the aces then they are playing a very bad hand imo. Season starts in 5 days time & transfer window shuts in 10 days time. Roland is selling players for peanuts & as it stands our front line on Saturday will be a player loaned out last season & the other a youngster who hasn't scored a league goal in his career. If they are playing "the long game" then someone had better tell them that it has taken us 3 years (and counting) to get out of this league.......it will take a damn sight longer than 5 to even get into the Championship from league 2.

    As I said last week, I don't who is worse.......Roland or the Aussies.
    Well, let me help. One has fucked up the club for four years and the others bought a scarf in the shop.
    @Airman Brown You’ve been pretty quiet over the last few weeks. I’m pretty sure you’ve heard things that are going on in the background. Any chance you can chuck us a bone to chew on until the next instalment if this saga?
    Nothing to add on the Aussies but there is new interest from elsewhere.
    You've made me Red with anger at this Bull.
  • JamesSeed
    JamesSeed Posts: 17,380
    edited July 2018
    This is based on this quite strong rumour about other serious bidders being around. Why would he complete when he might have been promised more, by someone he knows and trusts?

    (Not Red Bull lol)
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  • i_b_b_o_r_g
    i_b_b_o_r_g Posts: 18,948
    Macronate said:

    _MrDick said:

    Taxi_Lad said:

    I have no inside info but my guess is that the Aussies are holding up the deal and who can blame them. RD must want rid, he’s losing money month by month and will struggle to get another offer anywhere near this one. The Aussies hold all the aces IMO
    As for the delay causing the Aussies grief, I believe @JamesSeed previously mentioned that GM told him that they weren’t bothered as they are in for the long haul

    If they hold all the aces then they are playing a very bad hand imo. Season starts in 5 days time & transfer window shuts in 10 days time. Roland is selling players for peanuts & as it stands our front line on Saturday will be a player loaned out last season & the other a youngster who hasn't scored a league goal in his career. If they are playing "the long game" then someone had better tell them that it has taken us 3 years (and counting) to get out of this league.......it will take a damn sight longer than 5 to even get into the Championship from league 2.

    As I said last week, I don't who is worse.......Roland or the Aussies.
    Well, let me help. One has fucked up the club for four years and the others bought a scarf in the shop.
    @Airman Brown You’ve been pretty quiet over the last few weeks. I’m pretty sure you’ve heard things that are going on in the background. Any chance you can chuck us a bone to chew on until the next instalment if this saga?
    Nothing to add on the Aussies but there is new interest from elsewhere.
    You've made me Red with anger at this Bull.
    Makes me wanna go down to the edge of the Greenwich Peninsula, where no on will hear, and scream
  • LargeAddick
    LargeAddick Posts: 32,569
    JamesSeed said:

    This is based on this quite strong rumour about other serious bidders being around. Why would he complete when he might have been promised more, by someone he knows and trusts?

    (Not Red Bull lol)

    are you suggesting that Murray may still be involved? I want him out as badly as I want RD out.

  • Taxi_Lad
    Taxi_Lad Posts: 3,770

    Taxi_Lad said:

    I have no inside info but my guess is that the Aussies are holding up the deal and who can blame them. RD must want rid, he’s losing money month by month and will struggle to get another offer anywhere near this one. The Aussies hold all the aces IMO
    As for the delay causing the Aussies grief, I believe @JamesSeed previously mentioned that GM told him that they weren’t bothered as they are in for the long haul

    If they hold all the aces then they are playing a very bad hand imo. Season starts in 5 days time & transfer window shuts in 10 days time. Roland is selling players for peanuts & as it stands our front line on Saturday will be a player loaned out last season & the other a youngster who hasn't scored a league goal in his career. If they are playing "the long game" then someone had better tell them that it has taken us 3 years (and counting) to get out of this league.......it will take a damn sight longer than 5 to even get into the Championship from league 2.

    As I said last week, I don't who is worse.......Roland or the Aussies.

    Taxi_Lad said:

    I have no inside info but my guess is that the Aussies are holding up the deal and who can blame them. RD must want rid, he’s losing money month by month and will struggle to get another offer anywhere near this one. The Aussies hold all the aces IMO
    As for the delay causing the Aussies grief, I believe @JamesSeed previously mentioned that GM told him that they weren’t bothered as they are in for the long haul

    If they hold all the aces then they are playing a very bad hand imo. Season starts in 5 days time & transfer window shuts in 10 days time. Roland is selling players for peanuts & as it stands our front line on Saturday will be a player loaned out last season & the other a youngster who hasn't scored a league goal in his career. If they are playing "the long game" then someone had better tell them that it has taken us 3 years (and counting) to get out of this league.......it will take a damn sight longer than 5 to even get into the Championship from league 2.

    As I said last week, I don't who is worse.......Roland or the Aussies.
    My point being, other than RD nicking a few 100k in transfers and a weakened squad and irritation of the fanbase, the Aussies suffer no further pain whilst at the same time saving £1m per month running costs. Add to that the 7m director loans if they are digging their heels in). That really is a massive financial saving, money that can be spent on rebuilding everything RD has ruined
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    seth plum Posts: 53,448
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  • i_b_b_o_r_g
    i_b_b_o_r_g Posts: 18,948
    seth plum said:

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    Is that Bugsby's Way ?
  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    Maybe that 2+2=5 but:

    The directors loans have been discussed as an issue for the last few weeks and its agreed they wouldn't suddenly become an issue for the aussies after dd, as they are public knowledge.

    It was rumoured that a lease deal for the stadium/training ground was on the table.

    It was stated clearly, by the club and them selves, that the aussies want to buy lock stock and barrel.

    So....... The "other bid" want to buy the club and lease the ground? Therefore need clear title?

    If any of that is true it stinks of Murray!
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 52,012

    Firmly believe the deal is dead, why takeover this close to the season with no chance to shape the squad? Save £4m in running costs and do a deal nearer Christmas

    Why takeover at Christmas, takeover late next summer and save another £8m.
    Perhaps, that's the plan. They've realised that if they never take over they can save between £35M & £60M over the next 5 years.
  • J BLOCK
    J BLOCK Posts: 8,314
    If it is Murray, he's behaving like the Oyston's at Blackpool. Grabbing the club in a vice grip and never letting go despite what it's actually doing to the fans. If the Ground is leased and he's involved, he'll be getting both barrels from me and quite a number of others.
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,228
    I think we should question all and any owners (I've got my six ready) whoever they are.

    But deciding the Aussies are worse than Duchatelet is just self-flagalation.

    We don't know if the Aussies will be good or bad owners and they need to prove themselves. I really hope people don't use the "well, they saved us from admin/the spivs/Roland" line as a reason to not scrutinise or critise them.

    We don't need to ask if Duchatelet was good or bad. We know he's been a total disaster.
  • JamesSeed
    JamesSeed Posts: 17,380
    edited July 2018
    JamesSeed said:

    This is based on this quite strong rumour about other serious bidders being around. Why would he complete when he might have been promised more, by someone he knows and trusts?

    (Not Red Bull lol)

    I think all the rumours of about Brit bidders have hinted at him being involved haven’t they? Not inside info though.
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  • Chizz
    Chizz Posts: 28,339
    RD hasn't sold up yet. He's potentially got another interested party. Here's some wild speculation. It's a consortium based around some of the former directors, headed up by Richard Murray. They've offered to cancel the £7m debt in return for control of the football club, leasing the Valley and Sparrows Lane from Duchatalet. The debt to be paid off by rent over the next twenty years. Murray gets control of the club. Duchatalet gets his full asking price, paid as rent on the assets. And we only have to wait another twenty years before seeing if Murray will sell the club to a proper investor.

    Compared to this scenario, would the Aussie bashers be prepared to see them in a more favourable light?
  • The Red Robin
    The Red Robin Posts: 26,127
    As we've seen this week with RD trying to drive up a bidding war for Bauer, this is classic Duchatelet. He has an offer, but it's not good enough for him, so he'll try to drum up interest from elsewhere and end up losing out and selling for less, just like he did with Magennis.
  • KiwiValley
    KiwiValley Posts: 3,380
    JamesSeed said:

    Taxi_Lad said:

    I have no inside info but my guess is that the Aussies are holding up the deal and who can blame them. RD must want rid, he’s losing money month by month and will struggle to get another offer anywhere near this one. The Aussies hold all the aces IMO
    As for the delay causing the Aussies grief, I believe @JamesSeed previously mentioned that GM told him that they weren’t bothered as they are in for the long haul

    If they hold all the aces then they are playing a very bad hand imo. Season starts in 5 days time & transfer window shuts in 10 days time. Roland is selling players for peanuts & as it stands our front line on Saturday will be a player loaned out last season & the other a youngster who hasn't scored a league goal in his career. If they are playing "the long game" then someone had better tell them that it has taken us 3 years (and counting) to get out of this league.......it will take a damn sight longer than 5 to even get into the Championship from league 2.

    As I said last week, I don't who is worse.......Roland or the Aussies.
    Well, let me help. One has fucked up the club for four years and the others bought a scarf in the shop.
    Oh that's unfortunate @Airman Brown coming from you...no need for poor grammar *other's
    It’s a plural - Aussies = others.
    I'm not sure AB would lose many grammar shoot outs.
    I agree. That’s what makes it so appalling. I don’t buy he meant plural. He’s lost all credibility . End of daze.
  • PeterGage
    PeterGage Posts: 1,793

    JamesSeed said:

    Taxi_Lad said:

    I have no inside info but my guess is that the Aussies are holding up the deal and who can blame them. RD must want rid, he’s losing money month by month and will struggle to get another offer anywhere near this one. The Aussies hold all the aces IMO
    As for the delay causing the Aussies grief, I believe @JamesSeed previously mentioned that GM told him that they weren’t bothered as they are in for the long haul

    If they hold all the aces then they are playing a very bad hand imo. Season starts in 5 days time & transfer window shuts in 10 days time. Roland is selling players for peanuts & as it stands our front line on Saturday will be a player loaned out last season & the other a youngster who hasn't scored a league goal in his career. If they are playing "the long game" then someone had better tell them that it has taken us 3 years (and counting) to get out of this league.......it will take a damn sight longer than 5 to even get into the Championship from league 2.

    As I said last week, I don't who is worse.......Roland or the Aussies.
    Well, let me help. One has fucked up the club for four years and the others bought a scarf in the shop.
    Oh that's unfortunate @Airman Brown coming from you...no need for poor grammar *other's
    It’s a plural - Aussies = others.
    I'm not sure AB would lose many grammar shoot outs.
    I agree. That’s what makes it so appalling. I don’t buy he meant plural. He’s lost all credibility . End of daze.
    Plural of shoot out should surely be shoots out; as in the plural of gin and tonic is gins and tonic . Someone please confirm or shoot me down :-)
  • i_b_b_o_r_g
    i_b_b_o_r_g Posts: 18,948
    Chizz said:

    RD hasn't sold up yet. He's potentially got another interested party. Here's some wild speculation. It's a consortium based around some of the former directors, headed up by Richard Murray. They've offered to cancel the £7m debt in return for control of the football club, leasing the Valley and Sparrows Lane from Duchatalet. The debt to be paid off by rent over the next twenty years. Murray gets control of the club. Duchatalet gets his full asking price, paid as rent on the assets. And we only have to wait another twenty years before seeing if Murray will sell the club to a proper investor.

    Compared to this scenario, would the Aussie bashers be prepared to see them in a more favourable light?

    RD hasn't sold up yet. He's potentially got another interested party. Here's some wild speculation. It's a consortium based around some of the former directors, headed up by Richard Murray a mega rich Sussex businessman, who is willing to spend a bit of dough and who has done his DD correctly. They've He's offered to cancel the £7m debt
    the full asking price and is willing to come to an agreement with RD and the former directors regarding £7m, in return for control of the football club, leasing the Valley and Sparrows Lane from Duchatalet. The debt to be paid off by rent over the next twenty years. Murray gets to fuck off. control of the club Duchatalet gets his full asking price, paid as rent on the assets. And we only have to wait another twenty years before seeing if Murray will sell the club to a proper investor.

    Compared to this scenario, would the Aussie bashers suckers be prepared to see them in a more favourable realistic light, considering they have not proven themselves in any way whatsoever yet?



    Btw - I've personally got nothing against the Aussies, but I can't see what's wrong with questioning everything and everyone involved in this "take-over".

  • JoshAddick
    JoshAddick Posts: 1,786
    If we had got promoted do you think this deal would have been completed by now or it would have completely collapsed?
  • CL_Phantom
    CL_Phantom Posts: 5,515
    The conspiracy theories that fly around on this thread make the moon landing look genuine...
  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    Oh another thought, question for @Airman Brown and @Davidsmith all the focus is on a possible murray involved consortium but is it possible that any other ex directors could get involved?

    All I know about them is the names and some faces. Oh and that they don't like Murray. Is it possible that 2 or 3 of them could get involved again? I have no idea on any of their personal wealth, circumstance or desires. Just putting it out there.
  • ShootersHillGuru
    ShootersHillGuru Posts: 50,625
    Been speculated that Murray might have some involvement in the mystery second consortium but didn’t Airman suggest there is NEW interest?
  • i_b_b_o_r_g
    i_b_b_o_r_g Posts: 18,948
    No
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