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England Cricket - Summer of 2018
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I'd pick Thorpe instead of Bell (his debut was in 1993 so he fits the criteria!), I think he adds something that the other players don't have.Riviera said:
Really difficult to argue with that list and not an Englishman in sight which underlines our inconsistency over the period, in fact any period!McBobbin said:A distinguished panel of experts at Cricinfo, and separately the readers, came up with identical lists of the best test XI of the last 25 years.
1. Matthew Hayden
2. Virender Sehwag
3. Ricky Ponting
4. Sachin Tendulkar
5. Brian Lara
6. Jacques Kallis
7. Adam Gilchrist (wk)
8. Wasim Akram
9. Shane Warne
10. Muttiah Muralitharan
11. Glenn McGrath
Some massive names in there, and some massive names missing out. Sure I'd like a place for sangakkara and Dravidian, but who will miss out? What if you only wanted one spinner? Steyn possibly instead of Murali.
So let's name our English XI of that era to play this team:
1) Cook
2) Trescothick
3) Vaughn
4) Root
5) Pieterson (added through gritted teeth)
6) Bell
7) Flintoff
8) Prior
9) Swann
10) Broad
11) Anderson
Just to clarify I have only included players whose entire Test career falls within 1993-2018 and so that's why no Atherton, Stewart etc.
At his best (2003-05) Harmison would easily get in that team. as he was genuinely world class during that period. Sadly that didn't last long.2 -
Purely from the perspective of the side having that meaningful 5th bowler option (and I know that you will say you should only need four) I would bring in Stokes for Bell (much as he is/was such a classy batsman). It also gives you stability with the top four but explosiveness with KP/Stokes/Flintoff and Prior/Swann/a Broad of a former life as a batsman to wag.Riviera said:
Really difficult to argue with that list and not an Englishman in sight which underlines our inconsistency over the period, in fact any period!McBobbin said:A distinguished panel of experts at Cricinfo, and separately the readers, came up with identical lists of the best test XI of the last 25 years.
1. Matthew Hayden
2. Virender Sehwag
3. Ricky Ponting
4. Sachin Tendulkar
5. Brian Lara
6. Jacques Kallis
7. Adam Gilchrist (wk)
8. Wasim Akram
9. Shane Warne
10. Muttiah Muralitharan
11. Glenn McGrath
Some massive names in there, and some massive names missing out. Sure I'd like a place for sangakkara and Dravidian, but who will miss out? What if you only wanted one spinner? Steyn possibly instead of Murali.
So let's name our English XI of that era to play this team:
1) Cook
2) Trescothick
3) Vaughn
4) Root
5) Pieterson (added through gritted teeth)
6) Bell
7) Flintoff
8) Prior
9) Swann
10) Broad
11) Anderson
Just to clarify I have only included players whose entire Test career falls within 1993-2018 and so that's why no Atherton, Stewart etc.
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Allan Donald anyone?0
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No good, this Moeen chap1
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England need to be careful here, bowl them out to cheap and YJB won't be able to equal the world record!0
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Trip to Wickes for the Aussies during the interval?0
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Another one gone0
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9 overs, 3-29.
Lol well done Ali.0 -
Oops figures ruined a touch by that last over. Bloomin' Maxwell...
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Meanwhile, highest women's ODI score has just been broken...by a 17 year-old...who's normally a bowler0
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Badly need a wicket. 155-50
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Punter just went all Richie could have swarn it was the great man himself! Maxwell out :-)0
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Next time we should play one match against Australia as a warm up for a 5 match Scotland series9
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Roy goes first ball!0
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Second ball
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Here we go again!!0
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Bloody good ball though0
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It was but he was late on it. As Sangakkara said "if there is one thing that Jason Roy struggles with and is weak it is the ball that nips back in". He should know because he will have seen him enough times close up.Cafc43v3r said:Bloody good ball though
And it is why Roy, despite the clamour from some at times, will never make a Test batsman let alone a Test opener.0 -
Blame me if he gets out soon but Bairstow is in brilliant form.0
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So he played a dot ball as well, even worse!Cafc43v3r said:Second ball
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Bairstow giving it some humpty0
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That one's not my fault. I never said anything about Hales.Addick Addict said:Blame me if he gets out soon but Bairstow is in brilliant form.
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Just want to make a point here whixh I'm sure I've said before. Very few people have been calling for Roy in the test side at 6 and I'm yet to see anyone seriously suggest he opens on tests. His record opening the batting for Surrey in the longer format is terrible. Adams nearly ruined his career (also did this to Jordan and a number of others at surrey) by forcing him to open for so long.Addick Addict said:
It was but he was late on it. As Sangakkara said "if there is one thing that Jason Roy struggles with and is weak it is the ball that nips back in". He should know because he will have seen him enough times close up.Cafc43v3r said:Bloody good ball though
And it is why Roy, despite the clamour from some at times, will never make a Test batsman let alone a Test opener.
He is what he is. A very good limited overs batsman who on is day is another level but will be hit and miss given the way he plays.1 -
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Oops!Addick Addict said:Blame me if he gets out soon but Bairstow is in brilliant form.
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Sorry Canters but you are incorrect on that count. When he got that mammoth score last year there were some (and I'm not saying you) who were suggesting that he should be given a go in the Test side. I will dig it out if I have to.cantersaddick said:
Just want to make a point here whixh I'm sure I've said before. Very few people have been calling for Roy in the test side at 6 and I'm yet to see anyone seriously suggest he opens on tests. His record opening the batting for Surrey in the longer format is terrible. Adams nearly ruined his career (also did this to Jordan and a number of others at surrey) by forcing him to open for so long.Addick Addict said:
It was but he was late on it. As Sangakkara said "if there is one thing that Jason Roy struggles with and is weak it is the ball that nips back in". He should know because he will have seen him enough times close up.Cafc43v3r said:Bloody good ball though
And it is why Roy, despite the clamour from some at times, will never make a Test batsman let alone a Test opener.
He is what he is. A very good limited overs batsman who on is day is another level but will be hit and miss given the way he plays.0 -
Is it Broad on commentary?0
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Just seen the view of the comms box. Yes it is.0
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The oval is a fantastic ground to watch cricket.
3 of us on here have tickets for Surrey Kent next month in 20 /20 I can't wait.1 -
Moeen has gone full troll I think. Chucked away his MOTM if not the match itself, probably0
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Willey will see us through. A horror sentence0
