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  • Very highly rated here in Spain - pretty much each week in Marca and AS there is a feature on how he is doing. As always, there is a bit of an idea that he should/will move to Real Madrid and after Modric and Bale they do consider Spurs as a bit of a feeder club even though they were beaten well by them in the Champions League this season.
  • Solidgone
    Solidgone Posts: 10,205
    “Have it”
  • cafctom
    cafctom Posts: 11,364

    He needs a good World Cup or Euros and/or win the Champions League to recognised as a truly great player. He's lauded in this country but he won't get worldwide recognition unless he leads England deep into a major tournament.

    Thanks for the lols guys! But it's true, he's just a decent striker that's having a purple patch if you talk to anyone in Spain, France, Germany... if he wants to be a world great and prove them wrong, he'll need to do it on a world stage.
    3 seasons in a row is a bloody long 'purple patch' if you ask me!
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,757
    edited December 2017
    cafctom said:

    He needs a good World Cup or Euros and/or win the Champions League to recognised as a truly great player. He's lauded in this country but he won't get worldwide recognition unless he leads England deep into a major tournament.

    Thanks for the lols guys! But it's true, he's just a decent striker that's having a purple patch if you talk to anyone in Spain, France, Germany... if he wants to be a world great and prove them wrong, he'll need to do it on a world stage.
    3 seasons in a row is a bloody long 'purple patch' if you ask me!
    Not saying that's my opinion because his class is there for any who watches the Premier League regularly to see.

    I just don't think your average armchair PSG / Real / Bayern fan would be over the moon about signing him, yet. To them he's not yet a David Beckham or a Cristiano Ronaldo or a Neymar or a Lewandowski.
  • dizzee
    dizzee Posts: 5,616
    edited December 2017
    Great striker. But not in top 5 players in the world as one person said. I think he is just proving that he is the first world class player we have had in a very very long time.
  • MrOneLung
    MrOneLung Posts: 26,833
    Apparently he has scored more premier league hat tricks than West Ham.
  • cafctom
    cafctom Posts: 11,364

    cafctom said:

    He needs a good World Cup or Euros and/or win the Champions League to recognised as a truly great player. He's lauded in this country but he won't get worldwide recognition unless he leads England deep into a major tournament.

    Thanks for the lols guys! But it's true, he's just a decent striker that's having a purple patch if you talk to anyone in Spain, France, Germany... if he wants to be a world great and prove them wrong, he'll need to do it on a world stage.
    3 seasons in a row is a bloody long 'purple patch' if you ask me!
    Not saying that's my opinion because his class is there for any who watches the Premier League regularly to see.

    I just don't think your average armchair PSG / Real / Bayern fan would be over the moon about signing him, yet. To them he's not yet a David Beckham or a Cristiano Ronaldo or a Neymar or a Lewandowski.
    If that is the case (and I don't think it entirely is), then it's probably more down to the fact he plays for Spurs and not a Real, United, Barca sized club rather than anything to do with his actual achievements.

    On a side note I don't really understand the fascination fans have with trying to compare players when they make incredible feats like this. Best to focus on what he has done rather than pick holes by suggesting what he hasn't done.
  • cafc_harry
    cafc_harry Posts: 3,359
    dizzee said:

    Great striker. But not in top 5 players in the world as one person said. I think he is just proving that he is the first world class player we have had in a very very long time.

    Why not? He’s playing in a comparatively weak team in arguably the best league in the world and has the most goals in European football in the past year. He has more right to that title than Ronaldo does if we’re talking strictly individual achievement who won the Ballon D’Or on team merit.
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,757
    MrOneLung said:

    Apparently he has scored more premier league hat tricks than West Ham.

    That is my kind of stat.
  • When he starts scoring in August I'll get excited.

    From the man who only comes once a year, and that's down the chimney.
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  • Riviera
    Riviera Posts: 8,167
    edited December 2017
    Why do the media have to make up these pointless records? Football is played over a season and not a "Calendar Year".
  • Riviera said:

    Why do the media have to make up these pointless records? Football is played over a season and not a "Calendar Year".

    True as far as all club stuff. But remember the individual awards such as The Ballon Door/World player of the year is done by the calender year and it is an individual relevant record.
  • Chippycafc
    Chippycafc Posts: 14,140
    Add to that, he is a great team player, doesn't roll over and dive and is a thoroughly decent family man. You never hear bad things about him.
  • Beardface
    Beardface Posts: 1,128

    Add to that, he is a great team player, doesn't roll over and dive and is a thoroughly decent family man. You never hear bad things about him.

    Sounds like the next Ryan Giggs.
  • Riviera said:

    Why do the media have to make up these pointless records? Football is played over a season and not a "Calendar Year".

    I guess because the Ballon D'Or etc. is based on a Calendar Year performance rather than a Football season... Plus there are various Leagues in the World (Regardless of how good they are) which do run for a Calendar Year rather than running from August to May
  • Kane has scored 39 goals in his last 33 appearances. To put that in perspective, as a team, we have scored just 45 goals in our last 33 League matches.

  • cafctom said:

    He needs a good World Cup or Euros and/or win the Champions League to recognised as a truly great player. He's lauded in this country but he won't get worldwide recognition unless he leads England deep into a major tournament.

    Thanks for the lols guys! But it's true, he's just a decent striker that's having a purple patch if you talk to anyone in Spain, France, Germany... if he wants to be a world great and prove them wrong, he'll need to do it on a world stage.
    3 seasons in a row is a bloody long 'purple patch' if you ask me!
    Not saying that's my opinion because his class is there for any who watches the Premier League regularly to see.

    I just don't think your average armchair PSG / Real / Bayern fan would be over the moon about signing him, yet. To them he's not yet a David Beckham or a Cristiano Ronaldo or a Neymar or a Lewandowski.
    Real Madrid fans would be delighted to get him, especially as they are on a poor recent run and Benzema is not rated at all by them.
  • The amazing fact is Messi managed to get 91-goals in one season!!

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  • ricky_otto
    ricky_otto Posts: 22,600
    He is good...... But he’s no Josh Magennis.
  • Its also the number of games he achieved the record in, compared to the others

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  • JiMMy 85
    JiMMy 85 Posts: 10,189
    Riviera said:

    Why do the media have to make up these pointless records? Football is played over a season and not a "Calendar Year".

    The time period is an arbitrary human construct. The record is no more meaningful or pointless than any other. In this case, the measure is a consistent length of time and the individual is being measured within that time frame. It may not be relevant to the 'seasonal' nature of football, but that doesn't make it irrelevant to measuring the success of the individual.


  • The amazing fact is Messi managed to get 91-goals in one season!!

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    5 were in friendlies so shouldn't count.

    But still, 86 goals in a year is incredible.
  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 33,616
    Typical. Millwall had HIM on loan, whereas we get Dodoo.......
  • Two page spread on Kane and his achievements in today's Marca, so I think it's fair to say the Spanish are keen on him. The article is typical Marca conjecture and hyperbole but they seem to think he will end up in Madrid. The only disadvantage they can see about him... he's English and we don't travel well!
  • Kane has scored 39 goals in his last 33 appearances. To put that in perspective, as a team, we have scored just 45 goals in our last 33 League matches.

    We should be tearing apart this league.

    Charlton Athletic we're better than Kane.

  • Riviera
    Riviera Posts: 8,167
    edited December 2017
    JiMMy 85 said:

    Riviera said:

    Why do the media have to make up these pointless records? Football is played over a season and not a "Calendar Year".

    The time period is an arbitrary human construct. The record is no more meaningful or pointless than any other. In this case, the measure is a consistent length of time and the individual is being measured within that time frame. It may not be relevant to the 'seasonal' nature of football, but that doesn't make it irrelevant to measuring the success of the individual.


    You just don't get it do you?

    It's as pointless as the BBC's African Footballer of the Year, WTF is that all about? Ticks a few boxes for the BBC, that's all.
  • SoundAsa£
    SoundAsa£ Posts: 22,474

    Good player but couldn't believe Match of the Day comparing him to Henry and Shearer last night. Talk about overhype.

    Errrrrrrm........yeah spot on that!
  • JiMMy 85
    JiMMy 85 Posts: 10,189
    Riviera said:

    JiMMy 85 said:

    Riviera said:

    Why do the media have to make up these pointless records? Football is played over a season and not a "Calendar Year".

    The time period is an arbitrary human construct. The record is no more meaningful or pointless than any other. In this case, the measure is a consistent length of time and the individual is being measured within that time frame. It may not be relevant to the 'seasonal' nature of football, but that doesn't make it irrelevant to measuring the success of the individual.


    You just don't get it do you?

    It's as pointless as the BBC's African Footballer of the Year, WTF is that all about? Ticks a few boxes for the BBC, that's all.
    Apparently not. Maybe you’re not very good at explaining your point.
  • dizzee
    dizzee Posts: 5,616

    dizzee said:

    Great striker. But not in top 5 players in the world as one person said. I think he is just proving that he is the first world class player we have had in a very very long time.

    Why not? He’s playing in a comparatively weak team in arguably the best league in the world and has the most goals in European football in the past year. He has more right to that title than Ronaldo does if we’re talking strictly individual achievement who won the Ballon D’Or on team merit.
    Best league in the world? Sky has got to your head.
  • SoundAsa£
    SoundAsa£ Posts: 22,474
    dizzee said:

    dizzee said:

    Great striker. But not in top 5 players in the world as one person said. I think he is just proving that he is the first world class player we have had in a very very long time.

    Why not? He’s playing in a comparatively weak team in arguably the best league in the world and has the most goals in European football in the past year. He has more right to that title than Ronaldo does if we’re talking strictly individual achievement who won the Ballon D’Or on team merit.
    Best league in the world? Sky has got to your head.
    Mmmmm......there’s a case for saying this at this moment in time.......just look at the number of teams we have left in European competitions!